If you got that isk from plexing then the shortest way for you to get that isk would be to run 10 major plexes. Assuming you could run them without ever having to travel to redock to repair and totally ideal conditions then it would take you 200 minutes. That is 3.333 hours of straight plexing. If you get 500 isk per lp - which I think would be quite hard in our horrible lp store, you would get 150 million isk for 3.333 hours of pve. 45 million isk per hour after you take the time to sort out what you need for what items in the lp store etc. High sec incursions are making 2xs that in straight isk and getting much much better lp on top of that.

Running the majors will not help the overall war effort as running minors both give equal vp as far as I know.

I've already said my one problem with the update is the 4x multiplier for LP required on the losing side. I don't think a single Minnie or Gallente or Blood Raiser (hi mom!) has said they think the 4x multiplier is CORNFLAKES GREAT! I hope Hans agrees and I'll probably try to talk to him ingame later this week about it.



If you don't run the majors, they won't respawn... The key to plexing a system is having different ship types doing the plexing so you can simultaneously run minors, mediums and majors. We got Dal/Vard/Sis up to like 7% each with just a small 6 man crew doing this for a few hours.

Agreed. I don't think anyone likes the terrible LP store multipliers, even thought 22K LP for an SFI is pretty great. (:

I have no idea what CCP wanted to accomplish with this patch but definatly not to fix FW in the long run.

Or they are far more stupid than i have ever imagined..

So they just went ahead, ignoring all well known imbalances, bugs and exploits, and implemented severe consequences into the FW system that pretty much screws over the numeric inferior side completly.

Eventually leaving them no way to earn isk, dock in low sec and in consequence no chance to retake any system.

So combined with the original FW system, that already was completly designed against amarr in terms of ship balance, npc balance, system distribution/layout and the fact that due to bad racial role play design amarr milita has always been less attractive to players than any other faction, thischanges only aim towards one goal which is to remove the amarr milita (or any milita on the loosing side) completly from the game.

And if this was not the intention of CCP then it can only mean that the people of CCP are some of the worst devs, game designers and game balancers in game history.
Its almost as if CCP does not know at all how their own game actually works.

My prediction is that once the new and shiny effect of this patch has worn off and the supply of suicidal noobs on both sides has dried up, FW will be in far worse state that it was before this patch.

Fcs on the amarr side will burn out fast and no one will run fleets anymore.
After that Amarr Milita will probably become mostly inactive with the exception of a few die hards that will not care about plexing (since the LP rewards are useless with this store prices) and try to roam around in small/fast gangs to pick off lone WTs.

After that caldari milita will have to fight the combined blobs of gallente and minmatar which they will probably not have any chance of beating and that will slowly bring them towards the same end as the amarr milita.

Minmatar and Gallente militas will be flooded with farming carebears and the amount of stealth bombers running around low sec would blot out all suns IF they were not cloaked most of the time ;)

And with the Empyrean Age (imo the best expansion eve ever had) will come to an end.

Unfortunatly the only effective way to communicate with CCP is through the cancel button in the account management which i have used 3 times recently.

And to those the still cling to the hope of CCP fixing the bugs, imbalances and the promise to keep iterating on FW i can only say:

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

CCP never thinks long term and in short terms this patch might actually look like a success.
So they will be pretty much done with FW and hardly do anything anymore.

It will be interesting to see how dust514 will turn out since there is unlike with eve a lot of competition out there.

But since CCPs strategy seems not to be to attract new players but instead just keep milking their existing ones by making them buy more accounts (T3 booster alt, capital/super cap alt, industry alt, neutral hauling alt) and now even more games (dust 514) it might work out somehow for them.

And with this my final eve rant is over and all the cry more, htfu, gtfo and adapt or die replies can come ;)

I got the LP and tags in about two weeks of plexing.

just wondering how many hours you put into this, please be as accurate as you can thanks.

Funny thing is I hear people laughing in minmatar about how cheap Fleet issue and Republic fleet mods are.

And Amarr complaining about how worthless their LP is because it costs them 180K LP to get a navy Omen.

Did you see the price of Amarr Navy ships mods/compared to Republic Fleet ships/mods?

Go Check I will wait.........

In the end their is a balance due to the supply and demand.

Minnies are shooting themselves in the foot. The other day I was offered a free SFI from my local 7/11 if I bought the new 500m/l Pepsi can instead of the old 330ml one.

bla bla bla missing the point of the thread entirely

we are fighting in fw and will continue to do so, the idea is that we could be fighting just as much and have as much fun, possibly exploding more ships on both sides if we could dock up etc.

this isnt about giving up is about improving fw like ccp and the players wanted.

locksouts are unnecessary.

I enjoy them because you are crying like a beaten child.

good for you

however unlike you im thinking about the whole of fw and its future (the reason for the thread) well done you selfish douche.

grats for thinking about your self and your own entertainment, glad i could provide some fun for you.Tell me is it hard to see the screen with your head up your arse hole?

FW is a general game play career that i care about and have a lot of time and friendships invested in, if you want to bash on me you only expose yourself as someone with nothing worthy to add but snide comments etc.

we are fighting in fw and will continue to do so, the idea is that we could be fighting just as much and have as much fun, possibly exploding more ships on both sides if we could dock up etc.

this isnt about giving up is about improving fw like ccp and the players wanted.

locksouts are unnecessary.

Yes im mad and no you cant have my stuff, mostly because i cant get to it anyways.

Run the ISK/LP numbers. Also, lower price == higher demand, which in itself causes a higher ISK/LP.

Additionally, it's not like the amarr have anything unique in FW that doesn't have a pirate equivalent that starts to look like better value once the amarr prices start to increase.

Holy **** Minmatar datacores are going to make me a zillionaire.

are they? I'm selling them at almost cost now.

1) plz stop crying ----- It changes nothing and you just look bad.

2) I have an alt in AmarrFW and so far my (limited) experience has been this-

FC spams channels for everyone to fleet up
Fleet sits in one system and doesn't move for hours
meanwhile 2 minny pilots in thrashers plex one jump away and no one in the Amarr fleet will help you stop them.



no plan
no split up and hunt/plex
just ball up and sit

great job this thread is weeks if not months old, so with all due resoect go and die in a ditch in game.

Minmatar have got weaker now goons arnt propping them up, while we still have the huge influx of alts plexing problem against amarr, we are starting to gain ground.

so **** off. thanks :)

to The Imperial Fedaykin

here is what you do,
1- leave amarr FW.
2- keep on camping auga 3rd as usual.
Problem solved.

to be honest, most of the minmatar militia stopped taking you guys seriously a very long time ago, you just sit there in auga all day long, some of your carebears go around do some missions in machariels every-now and then, you sometimes may bait with stalinorgel iteron somewhere, but other than that you never had any real impact on anything from like half a year ago since you driven everyone out of auga,
maybe only the brave and the lone wolf Mystical might who ventured all over the place in his fearsome Talos with his boost alt, but then again he left you.

so follow my advice, and go back to your old business as usual, and all will be good.
and yes iam an alt, deal with it.