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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:54:00 -
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Breanta Nryrun
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Posted - 2009.07.09 09:37:00 -
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When I first read this post I was going to educate the OP. IT by job I can tell you that he does not understand the concept of networking. Then I thought "does daddy know that you used his credit card to open an account" but I saw that the OP was quoted as saying he was in the USAF. Then to my horror the poster kept coming back with even more idiotic responses to everything that was posted in response to defend his apparent *high level of knowledge* and I realized that I made a wise choice not joining the USAF because they must not have an entrance test to determine the IQ of their applicants.
In short, I look forward to finding you on a gate with your 'one account' and I will laugh as my 3rd alt pops your ship
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:36:00 -
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Im surprised no one talked about PAT (port address translation) but that wouldn't work either. Anyway since most of the Internet users have a dynamic IP anyway they might be banned 1 day, the other might not be. I can tell you that if your ip is dynamic (from the ISP) most isp's for cost reasons, wont change the ip even if you powercycle your equipment which means you can ask your isp to force an ip address change. The only way this would work would be to use the mac address of the computer...and not other devices like router (that would suck). Some ISP's uses mac address to give access to users. the only thing they need is a dsl modem set in bridge. believe me, this is more work for the ISP if its not maintained correctly since most users dont know what mac is lol. You don't want that. The only thing they know is clicking their mouse and power on the computer.
Put yourself in CCP's position, if you go forward with that idea, you will lose money for sure..I dont know the exact number but I as a big boss of a corp wont lose money cause of this idea...
in conclusion: nope, not a chance.
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Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.07.09 11:44:00 -
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Hmmm.. Let's see. Should CCP put a large CAP on their own earnings and hurt themself? YES! But it will never happen because it would create more CHOAS then ever see.
Flap,
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Galvatine
Caldari Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lacaius Edited by: Lacaius on 09/07/2009 01:48:32 Edited by: Lacaius on 08/07/2009 22:31:37 Multi-logging: a course of action which an individual is granted access to multiple accounts including new, old, and other individuals accounts repeatedly.
I request a ban or lock of one account use per i.p. in gameplay login. consider the following: ....
What happens to those people that are seperate individuals that come from the same hidenat, like house mates, or those playing at university, internet cafe's, play using a mobile 3g connection, or any of the miriad of other times when a hidenat is in use?
Did you think about that? No?
Or how about the individual who wishes to circumvent said protection with clever use of multiple IP addresses?
So in effect you make it impossible to play for a massive group of people while not really stopping the people that run multiple accounts thta are determined enough to do it...
/stupid idea
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Galvatine
Caldari Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lacaius
The internet is one giant network of computers, and it's absolutely true that no two computers on the internet can have the same IP address. It's the IP address that tells one computer from another on a network.
Look it up and research information before you sound like you know what your talking about....
I suggest that it is you who need to start reading.
Network Address Translation is in use EVERYWHERE, if it were not, we would have run out of IPv4 address space years ago. I suggest you try this small test from a library, university, or a small/medium sized business.
Jump on a terminal, go to www.whatsmyipaddress.com, note that down.
Jump on another terminal, do the same thing.
/slap head when you figure it out.
Yes, it is true that on any subnet the individual nodes require a unique IP address, happily when one device on a subnet talks to another device on another subnet the internmediate router/firewall can NAT the source address behind its own egress address (or another address if required) so that the source subnet does not require unique addressing to operate in the new subnets address space. Reply traffic is directed back to the NAT address whereupon the router/firewall translates the address back to its original and the original node receives the reply packet.
Its simple, effective, very common and very easy to understand.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 09/07/2009 12:46:42 Edited by: NeoTheo on 09/07/2009 12:44:30
Fear the warth of the mighty IT manager. Having said that, talk about arguing over symantics.
Originally by: Lacaius
The internet is one giant network of computers, and it's absolutely true that no two computers on the internet can have the same IP address. It's the IP address that tells one computer from another on a network.
Totally true statement.
Originally by: Galvatine
Network Address Translation is in use EVERYWHERE, if it were not, we would have run out of IPv4 address space years ago. I suggest you try this small test from a library, university, or a small/medium sized business.
Jump on a terminal, go to www.whatsmyipaddress.com, note that down.
Jump on another terminal, do the same thing.
/slap head when you figure it out.
Yes, it is true that on any subnet the individual nodes require a unique IP address, happily when one device on a subnet talks to another device on another subnet the internmediate router/firewall can NAT the source address behind its own egress address (or another address if required) so that the source subnet does not require unique addressing to operate in the new subnets address space. Reply traffic is directed back to the NAT address whereupon the router/firewall translates the address back to its original and the original node receives the reply packet.
Its simple, effective, very common and very easy to understand.
In thesecases were many to one, (or hide nat) are required, you will find that the host PC's are simply accessing the "internet", and not in fact participating in it at a network level.
so really, there is a whole heap of d1ck swinging going on here.
1 account from 1 address is a terrible idea, for a number of reasons. its especially evident to folks who have a clue about tcp/ip and the current limitations and fixes for said limitations.
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Takeda Yoshimoto
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:15:00 -
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It would seems that our poster has finally swallowed the bitter pill of wrongness...nothing wrong with multiple accounts. Makes the game much more interesting.
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Ren Chan
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:16:00 -
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I agree completely with Takeda, he is so amazing and right about everything all the time. I want to have his babies
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Dave Bauldrick
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:17:00 -
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Get lost Ren, heÆs my ***** and I will own your Caldari ass too! But yes Takeda is the man, everyone send him money.
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3rr0rc0d3
Amarr Universal Moose Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Galvatine Yes, it is true that on any subnet the individual nodes require a unique IP address, happily when one device on a subnet talks to another device on another subnet the intermediate router/firewall can NAT the source address behind its own egress address (or another address if required) so that the source subnet does not require unique addressing to operate in the new subnets address space. Reply traffic is directed back to the NAT address whereupon the router/firewall translates the address back to its original and the original node receives the reply packet.
Its simple, effective, very common and very easy to understand.
You must work, or must have worked at a helpdesk at some point in your life. The way you explain it reminds me so much of my days as a tele-techy, lol. Nicely done!
And to the OP: please do read up on how networking and protocols work, it keeps you from making a fool of yourself on the interwebz Just don't read up on sites like that, take a Cisco course or something. I highly recommend CCNA tbh. ______________________
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.09 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: 3rr0rc0d3
Originally by: Galvatine Yes, it is true that on any subnet the individual nodes require a unique IP address, happily when one device on a subnet talks to another device on another subnet the intermediate router/firewall can NAT the source address behind its own egress address (or another address if required) so that the source subnet does not require unique addressing to operate in the new subnets address space. Reply traffic is directed back to the NAT address whereupon the router/firewall translates the address back to its original and the original node receives the reply packet.
Its simple, effective, very common and very easy to understand.
You must work, or must have worked at a helpdesk at some point in your life. The way you explain it reminds me so much of my days as a tele-techy, lol. Nicely done!
And to the OP: please do read up on how networking and protocols work, it keeps you from making a fool of yourself on the interwebz Just don't read up on sites like that, take a Cisco course or something. I highly recommend CCNA tbh.
frankly a copy of tcp illustrated would do.
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Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.07.09 19:12:00 -
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When multiple accounts are outlawed, only outlaws will have multiple accounts. ---- Suddenly Ninjas Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
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Pyrostasis
Caldari Rage Quit Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.16 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lacaius
The internet is one giant network of computers, and it's absolutely true that no two computers on the internet can have the same IP address. It's the IP address that tells one computer from another on a network.
Look it up and research information before you sound like you know what your talking about....
Any reply after this post is a complete and utter waste of time. We are dealing with an individual who "knows it all" .
Individuals like this cant be taught or helped and should be sterilized and left to their own devices.
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Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:04:00 -
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im not sure but is the OP saying if someone owns two accounts and they log in with both at once be in on one or two computers they should get banned
if that is what the OP is saying then that has to be the most stupid idea ive heard of yet if someone pays for and uses two accounts at once what on earth is wrong with that Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
Vertinox
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:16:00 -
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I personally don't think Multi-boxing or owning multiple accounts for alts should be a bannable offense.
However... I think CCP should create "tripcodes" (used on anonymous message boards to identify users) that takes a user's IP history and creates a unique id that of course masks the IP in question but shows a unique code based of IP address history that any player can look at in the player BIO and realize that this person is using an alt and be able to identify the relationship of the two accounts.
So if you scam someone and buy an alt... A player could look at your trip code and then pull up your other accounts trip code they will realize you are the same player.
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Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Vertinox I personally don't think Multi-boxing or owning multiple accounts for alts should be a bannable offense.
However... I think CCP should create "tripcodes" (used on anonymous message boards to identify users) that takes a user's IP history and creates a unique id that of course masks the IP in question but shows a unique code based of IP address history that any player can look at in the player BIO and realize that this person is using an alt and be able to identify the relationship of the two accounts.
So if you scam someone and buy an alt... A player could look at your trip code and then pull up your other accounts trip code they will realize you are the same player.
scammings part of the game Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
Nub Sauce
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Posted - 2009.07.16 22:00:00 -
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So if my friend comes over and we both want to play at the same time, we can't because I only pay for one ISP connection?
Not to mention that most of the players I know in game have and use multiple accounts.
I can't think of a better way for CCP to lose money short of just shutting down their servers or deleting everyone's characters.
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Indigosia
Caldari NewNaw Trading
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Posted - 2009.07.17 01:38:00 -
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i will now wardec you ingame for being lame.
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