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Kerfira
Audaces Fortuna Iuvat
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Posted - 2010.02.04 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: IbanezLaney Perspective is everything.
I agree! Perspective in having the ability to see things in a larger picture, ie. to suggest changes that are good for the GAME, not just one's personal wallet...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Baron Sindor
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Posted - 2010.02.04 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Peeping Kerfira, I think renagade must be trolling you. At least I sure hope so.....
5 minutes at the link he provided and I found 2 separate faction items where the LP store you choose would allow one to spend significantly less LP on a specific item. All I did was run searches for the items that I actually use. Not one of them was an implant. Both were modules.
If he's not trolling, then I weep for him.
+1 alt posting.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2010.02.04 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: IbanezLaney Perspective is everything.
I agree! Perspective in having the ability to see things in a larger picture, ie. to suggest changes that are good for the GAME, not just one's personal wallet...
Thanks for agreeing. :)
I'm glad you now see why doing things to advantage a few already well off players is bad for the game.
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RenegadeChemist
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.02.04 11:03:00 -
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All LP stores has the same prices, only the item list varies. If you do find same item with discount LP price in other store in the same faction, it's a bug
Also this thread is bad troll.
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Kerfira
Audaces Fortuna Iuvat
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Posted - 2010.02.04 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: RenegadeChemist Also this thread is has a bad troll. His name is RenegadeChemist...
Corrected this for you
If you're too dumb to realise that some items not for sale in the 'popular' corp MAY be fetching better profit than the overused offers of the 'popular' corp, then I feel really sorry for you....
@IbanezLaney: As said, I'll discuss nerf or not AFTER I publish my next set of figures. And I do agree that you don't 'get' that what is good for the game is not necessarily the same as the income level of new/old mission runners.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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RenegadeChemist
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.02.04 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: RenegadeChemist on 04/02/2010 13:30:08
Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Also this thread is has a bad troll. His name is RenegadeChemist...
Corrected this for you
If you're too dumb to realise that some items not for sale in the 'popular' corp MAY be fetching better profit than the overused offers of the 'popular' corp, then I feel really sorry for you....
@IbanezLaney: As said, I'll discuss nerf or not AFTER I publish my next set of figures. And I do agree that you don't 'get' that what is good for the game is not necessarily the same as the income level of new/old mission runners.
Go back to last page. I said that the difference between LP stores are certain blueprints, hardwirings, skillbooks and nexus chips. That's all.
Rest are the same in all LP stores.
Yes, you can have small window of opportunity to fetch something higher LP income, but that's not due L4 missions, that's due how market varies........................
For example Dramiels right now, they give good ISK just because they haven't been nerfed yet.
Doing missions for popular or unpopular corporation doesn't justify the amount of LP you get. Agent quality does that.
Your ISK/hour number is high because you throw out a ISK/LP number wich doesn't have anything to do with missioning.
You are just saying what someone COULD get.
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Kerfira
Audaces Fortuna Iuvat
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Posted - 2010.02.04 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 04/02/2010 19:46:56
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Go back to last page. I said that the difference between LP stores are certain blueprints, hardwirings, skillbooks and nexus chips. That's all.
No, you said:
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Only difference between corporations in same faction are hardwirings, skillbooks and nexus chips, rest are the same in every LP store.
Leaving out the most important one, the one that people actually make money off....
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Doing missions for popular or unpopular corporation doesn't justify the amount of LP you get. Agent quality does that.
No, but if I did missions for the popular corp's top agents (as most of the stupid people), I'd get over 8000 instead of the 7163 that is my maximum....
However, I'd have to convert those 8000+ at maybe 1000 ISK/LP, but my lower 7163 gets me (at current rate) 2050 ISK/LP. What'd you chose?
Oh, you already chose the 1000 ISK/LP..... That makes sense....
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Your ISK/hour number is high because you throw out a ISK/LP number wich doesn't have anything to do with missioning.
When I've been getting this (or higher) on the same item for years?
Originally by: RenegadeChemist EDIT: Also, typical mission runner doesn't have trade skills to buy tags on site, they also dont have building skills to build 5-run BPC's...
Train them then.... You should have most of the pre-req skills anyway. The only one you might not have is Industry 5, and that is only a rank 1 skill...
You REALLY aren't as smart as you think you are. However, you try to make up for that with your inability to actually check the different offers....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Herpes Sweatrash
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Posted - 2010.02.05 03:09:00 -
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Just to compare, I moved RR sentry domi and t2 fit gank raven out to 0.0 2 days ago. System has full upgrade for anomalies. If I can get constant run of sanctums I make easily 60mil an hour in bounties between the 2 character.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Peeping on 07/02/2010 00:22:07
Originally by: Baron Sindor
Originally by: Tom Peeping Kerfira, I think renagade must be trolling you. At least I sure hope so.....
5 minutes at the link he provided and I found 2 separate faction items where the LP store you choose would allow one to spend significantly less LP on a specific item. All I did was run searches for the items that I actually use. Not one of them was an implant. Both were modules.
If he's not trolling, then I weep for him.
+1 alt posting.
ummmm.. yeah. Another dude who put a lot of time into checking things out. You really got me on this one I'm actually kerfira... sure, yeah.
And for you dudes who say everything is the same price.... seriously? Look harder. Look at alternate ways to get the same thing... BPC rather than ship or mod directly.... lp with more tags/less isk vs straight isk and lp purchase. How can you possibly say that every mod and ship goes for an identical price???? It's so easily disproved. That's why I was calling troll. Anyone who can possibly argue that every item goes for an identical price at every LP shop is either trolling or is deluded and couldn't be bothered to look.
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Queen Athena
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Posted - 2010.02.07 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Peeping Edited by: Tom Peeping on 07/02/2010 00:22:07
Originally by: Baron Sindor
Originally by: Tom Peeping Kerfira, I think renagade must be trolling you. At least I sure hope so.....
5 minutes at the link he provided and I found 2 separate faction items where the LP store you choose would allow one to spend significantly less LP on a specific item. All I did was run searches for the items that I actually use. Not one of them was an implant. Both were modules.
If he's not trolling, then I weep for him.
+1 alt posting.
ummmm.. yeah. Another dude who put a lot of time into checking things out. You really got me on this one I'm actually kerfira... sure, yeah.
And for you dudes who say everything is the same price.... seriously? Look harder. Look at alternate ways to get the same thing... BPC rather than ship or mod directly.... lp with more tags/less isk vs straight isk and lp purchase. How can you possibly say that every mod and ship goes for an identical price???? It's so easily disproved. That's why I was calling troll. Anyone who can possibly argue that every item goes for an identical price at every LP shop is either trolling or is deluded and couldn't be bothered to look.
Confirming every Raven Mission pilot also has perfect manufacturing skills.
Seriously, as soon as you trade LP+isk+tags or whatever for a BPC it no longer becomes mission income, it now is manufacturing income. Using that same theory we should include every faction BPC drop from 0.0 ratting, not just the salvage and bounty.
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