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Speshtard
Amarr Nuclear Tactical Railroads
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Posted - 2009.07.06 12:34:00 -
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I like starting new pages.
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Inaki Jouzu
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Posted - 2009.07.06 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Inaki Jouzu on 06/07/2009 12:39:59 Harbingers are usually primary in BC gangs for the simple reason that they do the most DPS at medium range of any BC, and with scorch they'll start doing it right away. If you're primary, fitting a 1600mm plate may not save your butt, but a FMP II/1600mm plate will make you last quite a bit longer and do more total damage than the heavy pulse setups. Alternately, a shield buffer tank works quite well.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.07.06 18:54:00 -
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Harb AB is fail - scrams may not work but WEBS still do and I assure you people still fit those (multiples now due to nerf).
Saying you will stay at 10KM in an AB Harb vs a MWD blaster boat with a web is lol.
They'll web you and you're toast.
It sucks to lose grid + cap. It sucks more to miss a target that MWD's away from you. It really sucks when they MWD into you - web you and roast you.
I'm not a MWD IS MANDATORY ON ALL SHIPS guy - but it is mandatory on the Harb.
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kessah
XERCORE Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.07.07 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous Harb AB is fail - scrams may not work but WEBS still do and I assure you people still fit those (multiples now due to nerf).
Saying you will stay at 10KM in an AB Harb vs a MWD blaster boat with a web is lol.
They'll web you and you're toast.
It sucks to lose grid + cap. It sucks more to miss a target that MWD's away from you. It really sucks when they MWD into you - web you and roast you.
I'm not a MWD IS MANDATORY ON ALL SHIPS guy - but it is mandatory on the Harb.
Depends where you play and how you play. Only those with closed minds are ever certain.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.07.07 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Genital Necrosis Just going by experience here. But I have recently been dropping MWD's off of my Hurricanes and the such recently plainly because most of my fights are starting at very close or point blank range and the extra PG, CPU and capacitor it frees up grants me decent tactical advantage with the more/better mods I can fit. If I was doing just about anything else, then MWD all the way.
I dropped 3 of my HP's for Focused instead which allowed me to upgrade to a 1600mm RTP granting me an extra 20k EHP at the expense of about 40 DPS.
I am happy with the fit I have put together now.
But mwd aren't just for combat. If your corp/alliance has wardec(s) then it's good to have a mwd in those "burn for the gate/station" situations where your outnumbered/webbed and you have to gtfo and in 0.0 it's a must for bubbles so just fit one just incase.
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Duke Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.07.07 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Omarvelous Harb AB is fail - scrams may not work but WEBS still do and I assure you people still fit those (multiples now due to nerf).
Saying you will stay at 10KM in an AB Harb vs a MWD blaster boat with a web is lol.
They'll web you and you're toast.
It sucks to lose grid + cap. It sucks more to miss a target that MWD's away from you. It really sucks when they MWD into you - web you and roast you.
I'm not a MWD IS MANDATORY ON ALL SHIPS guy - but it is mandatory on the Harb.
Depends where you play and how you play. Only those with closed minds are ever certain.
And yet, he's pretty much right.
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Absalom Marathon
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.07.07 23:12:00 -
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2 cheap gang setups for u
Armor:
7 Heavy pulse II
small cap booster II sensor booster II j5 disruptor y-t8 mwd
2 heat sink II reactor control II 1600mm rt plate dc II eanm II
No rigs, I get 717dps w hammerhead IIs and 48k+ ehp
Shield:
7 heavy pulse II
invul II lse II j5 disruptor 10mn mwd II
3 heat sink II dc II co-processor II tracking enhancer II
Rigs: em shield rig, energy locus rig
I get 788 dps w hammerhead II's and 44k+ ehp, might wanna throw on a thermal shield rig aswell.
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kessah
XERCORE Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.07.07 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: kessah on 07/07/2009 23:33:53
Originally by: Duke Starbuckington
Originally by: kessah
Originally by: Omarvelous Harb AB is fail - scrams may not work but WEBS still do and I assure you people still fit those (multiples now due to nerf).
Saying you will stay at 10KM in an AB Harb vs a MWD blaster boat with a web is lol.
They'll web you and you're toast.
It sucks to lose grid + cap. It sucks more to miss a target that MWD's away from you. It really sucks when they MWD into you - web you and roast you.
I'm not a MWD IS MANDATORY ON ALL SHIPS guy - but it is mandatory on the Harb.
Depends where you play and how you play. Only those with closed minds are ever certain.
And yet, he's pretty much right.
Well no he isnt and thats my point.
Sometimes ul wish you had an MWD fitted and others you'd have wished for the DPS. There are times for both.
Im not sure why people are so dead set on this. Its a matter of experience, there is no 'This is how you fit' definitive mindset about it.
Granted an MWD is useful, but its not the be all and end all and ive used AB's to great effect.
We can agree to disagree, im clearly not changing peoples minds that are already made up, so il reserve my posts for those with an open mind.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.07.08 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Well no he isnt and thats my point.
Sometimes ul wish you had an MWD fitted and others you'd have wished for the DPS. There are times for both.
Im not sure why people are so dead set on this. Its a matter of experience, there is no 'This is how you fit' definitive mindset about it.
Granted an MWD is useful, but its not the be all and end all and ive used AB's to great effect.
We can agree to disagree, im clearly not changing peoples minds that are already made up, so il reserve my posts for those with an open mind.
If I'm wishing for more dps than what I get out of a mwd fit - then I'm probably wishing I was flying a BS or a gank Brutix - not an AB Harby. I'm not close minded - you can eve search my threads I've worked on several out of the box fits.
I think I'm of the mindset - if you're fitting a propulsion mod - its to move about quickly - I don't find the AB to move quick enough when most people fit a MWD. I've used AB fits - and I've lost targets or been caught enough times to pretty much want to avoid them. The only ship class that can make a go of afterburners is assault frigs in low sec. They can effective sig tank with them. EVEN then I still rather have a MWD on them to tackle someone quickly.
A Harb isn't going to sig tank well with an AB - and the next guy with a MWD and a web will melt you.
What were the combat situations you used afterburners to great effect? Was it orbiting solo Raven pilots? I'm not trying to be condescending at all btw - I just want to know where an AB Harb is a good choice. It seems like an extremely situational choice - not a good idea for a general pvp fit.
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KiloAlpha
Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2009.07.08 05:46:00 -
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use this fit god cries when u fit a plate to a harbinger
http://kb.eve-sci.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16571
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abrasive soap
Caldari Corporation 12345
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Posted - 2009.07.08 06:51:00 -
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I used this for lulz once
[Harbinger, New Setup 4] Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit I Tracking Enhancer II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution
Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Heavy Beam Laser II, Aurora M Small Energy Neutralizer II
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5
and then I srs'd and used this
[Harbinger, New Setup 1] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Faint Warp Disruptor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M 50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Ancillary Current Router I Energy Burst Aerator I [empty rig slot]
Valkyrie II x5
if you can't afford the acr change the cap booster to a small, drop the energy weapon rig and be frugal with the repper and neut this thing is very flexible and has a shot against some command ships
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