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Lenore Leelu
Obsidian Dynamics
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:25:00 -
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So should I start writing my CV to apply for a job in not so sunny Iceland? Or is my current customer service / IT Service Desk job in Australia with Logica going to keep me happy. Would someone from an IT Service Desk background (and with bachelors degree in computer science at RMIT (Melbourne) ) be of use in the Game Master's department at CCP?
How many people have considered packing up and heading to Iceland to work for their favourite game company?
I'm thinking that a Game Master position would be sweet, especially since I'm relatively patient and like writing in the forums and help channel. Perhaps I'd unleash ITIL standards and put problem management and incident management into the petition tools (if they are not there already).
Must start writing CV instead of playing EVE or Diablo III. |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:28:00 -
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With much hard work, you, too, can become a viking! |

Medarr
ZeroSec
0
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:29:00 -
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This is news worthy yes... |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:31:00 -
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Lenore Leelu wrote:So should I start writing my CV to apply for a job in not so sunny Iceland? Or is my current customer service / IT Service Desk job in Australia with Logica going to keep me happy. Would someone from an IT Service Desk background (and with bachelors degree in computer science at RMIT (Melbourne) ) be of use in the Game Master's department at CCP?
Australia, dam it's interesting. Sea, sun and hot galls !
Iceland? -herm, noes? 
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Lenore Leelu
Obsidian Dynamics
14
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:37:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Lenore Leelu wrote:So should I start writing my CV to apply for a job in not so sunny Iceland? Or is my current customer service / IT Service Desk job in Australia with Logica going to keep me happy. Would someone from an IT Service Desk background (and with bachelors degree in computer science at RMIT (Melbourne) ) be of use in the Game Master's department at CCP? Australia, dam it's interesting. Sea, sun and hot galls ! Iceland? -herm, noes? 
I'm at the southern end of Australia, Hobart. Our mountain gets snow on it. Its going to be a high of 13 degrees celcius on Monday. Perhaps I _can_ handle Reyjavik!
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Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:47:00 -
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The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't. It's not unlike seeing that girl on the dance-floor who happens not to be a ****, which means there is a chance she will discard you but, nevertheless, what is living if not seizing opportunity and take a chance once in a while?
If Iceland is a non-degenerated version of Sweden, then I'm sure it's a beautiful country, and if you are non-degenerated version of a human being, then I'm sure you won't do like everyone else and just do what social norms tells you to do. Make your own destiny! |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:47:00 -
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double-post |

Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:49:00 -
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I hope you enjoy reading barely cognizant petitions. |

EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:53:00 -
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Would depend on how much it paid and if they will pay for relocation.
Probably not much and no. |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:55:00 -
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CCP likes to advertise these jobs to give dumb pubbies the idea they might get to work in the exciting field of Internet Spaceships. In reality the job has already been earmarked for a Goon buddy of the various Ex-Goon CCP staff.
Sorry. :3 Heh. |
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Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.05.20 13:57:00 -
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Akir Apathi wrote:The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't. It's not unlike seeing that girl on the dance-floor who happens not to be a ****, which means there is a chance she will discard you but, nevertheless, what is living if not seizing opportunity and take a chance once in a while?
If Iceland is a non-degenerated version of Sweden, then I'm sure it's a beautiful country, and if you are non-degenerated version of a human being, then I'm sure you won't do like everyone else and just do what social norms tells you to do. Make your own destiny!
Quoting this to point out the sexist undertone. And when I saw the post, it still read "sl*t" without it being censored (sth. I object to as well). |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
509
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:26:00 -
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If you get the job, spawn me 50 bn Isk or so, I'm feeling a little light at the moment |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:29:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Akir Apathi wrote:The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't. It's not unlike seeing that girl on the dance-floor who happens not to be a ****, which means there is a chance she will discard you but, nevertheless, what is living if not seizing opportunity and take a chance once in a while?
If Iceland is a non-degenerated version of Sweden, then I'm sure it's a beautiful country, and if you are non-degenerated version of a human being, then I'm sure you won't do like everyone else and just do what social norms tells you to do. Make your own destiny! Quoting this to point out the sexist undertone. And when I saw the post, it still read "sl*t" without it being censored (sth. I object to as well). Well, to be completely honest I don't really know what to reply here. Did I by mistake write in the feminist-socialist part of the forum? In a game where slave-transports are common and where people make it their mission in life to destroy the souls of new players, I am indeed surprised by your obvious sensitivity, and equally so am I disappointed. Oh, well, I went three days without hearing the tears of sensitive, self-righteous people. Oh, what good three days it has been. |

Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:42:00 -
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Akir Apathi wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote:Akir Apathi wrote:The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't. It's not unlike seeing that girl on the dance-floor who happens not to be a ****, which means there is a chance she will discard you but, nevertheless, what is living if not seizing opportunity and take a chance once in a while?
If Iceland is a non-degenerated version of Sweden, then I'm sure it's a beautiful country, and if you are non-degenerated version of a human being, then I'm sure you won't do like everyone else and just do what social norms tells you to do. Make your own destiny! Quoting this to point out the sexist undertone. And when I saw the post, it still read "sl*t" without it being censored (sth. I object to as well). Well, to be completely honest I don't really know what to reply here. Did I by mistake write in the feminist-socialist part of the forum? In a game where slave-transports are common and where people make it their mission in life to destroy the souls of new players, I am indeed surprised by your obvious sensitivity, and equally so am I disappointed. Oh, well, I went three days without hearing the tears of sensitive, self-righteous people. Oh, what good three days it has been.
If it had any relation to ingame, i wouldn't have minded. Roleplay a slave-owning capsuleer any time you want.
But it was a RL-thread and your comment was solely RL-based. So i applied real life standards of morality/behavior, not New Eden standards. |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:53:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Akir Apathi wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote:Akir Apathi wrote:The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't. It's not unlike seeing that girl on the dance-floor who happens not to be a ****, which means there is a chance she will discard you but, nevertheless, what is living if not seizing opportunity and take a chance once in a while?
If Iceland is a non-degenerated version of Sweden, then I'm sure it's a beautiful country, and if you are non-degenerated version of a human being, then I'm sure you won't do like everyone else and just do what social norms tells you to do. Make your own destiny! Quoting this to point out the sexist undertone. And when I saw the post, it still read "sl*t" without it being censored (sth. I object to as well). Well, to be completely honest I don't really know what to reply here. Did I by mistake write in the feminist-socialist part of the forum? In a game where slave-transports are common and where people make it their mission in life to destroy the souls of new players, I am indeed surprised by your obvious sensitivity, and equally so am I disappointed. Oh, well, I went three days without hearing the tears of sensitive, self-righteous people. Oh, what good three days it has been. If it had any relation to ingame, i wouldn't have minded. Roleplay a slave-owning capsuleer any time you want. But it was a RL-thread and your comment was solely RL-based. So i applied real life standards of morality/behavior, not New Eden standards. By what right do you claim your morality superior to mine? What So-High-Education have you received which I have not? Do you honestly think objecting to something you dislike is either productive or healthy? How do you manage to go on with life when so much hatred and anger plagues your essence? By your choices you create yourself. Is this really the "self" you want to be? By insinuating that my morality is inferior to yours, you paint an image of yourself as self-righteous and boring. Create a new self! Seize opportunity by the balls (is that sexist, too, or do I have to say "seize it by the t!ts" for it to be sexist? don't you see how ridiculous this is?) and create a destiny which is yours to define! As it is in New Eden, so it is on Earth. |

Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:00:00 -
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Akir Apathi wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote: If it had any relation to ingame, i wouldn't have minded. Roleplay a slave-owning capsuleer any time you want.
But it was a RL-thread and your comment was solely RL-based. So i applied real life standards of morality/behavior, not New Eden standards.
By what right do you claim your morality superior to mine? What So-High-Education have you received which I have not? Do you honestly think objecting to something you dislike is either productive or healthy? How do you manage to go on with life when so much hatred and anger plagues your essence? By your choices you create yourself. Is this really the "self" you want to be? By insinuating that my morality is inferior to yours, you paint an image of yourself as self-righteous and boring. Create a new self! Seize opportunity by the balls (is that sexist, too, or do I have to say "seize it by the t!ts" for it to be sexist? don't you see how ridiculous this is?) and create a destiny which is yours to define! As it is in New Eden, so it is on Earth.
I have edited my last statment some, so reread, if it's any better.
I do NOT claim my morality is superior to yours, nor have i ever said so. I am not hateful, actually if this had been an eye-to-eye conversation you'd have seen me laughing and smiling. I was just "pointing out" something i considered noteworthy to point out.
And yes, i think that objecting to something i dislike can be productive (and would apply the same standard to other people). Actually if nobody dared pointing out things that they dislike, we'd all live together quite unpleasantly. (I appreciate ppl pointing out to me when i do something they don't like, because I get the opportunity to think about what I did, and if I maybe shouldnt have done it, or maybe simply don't want to continue with regard to the other persons preferences/feelings).
And I do take my future in my hand and try to make my "destiny" (big word ).
Best regards, Karsa. |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:13:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:Akir Apathi wrote:Karsa Egivand wrote: If it had any relation to ingame, i wouldn't have minded. Roleplay a slave-owning capsuleer any time you want.
But it was a RL-thread and your comment was solely RL-based. So i applied real life standards of morality/behavior, not New Eden standards.
By what right do you claim your morality superior to mine? What So-High-Education have you received which I have not? Do you honestly think objecting to something you dislike is either productive or healthy? How do you manage to go on with life when so much hatred and anger plagues your essence? By your choices you create yourself. Is this really the "self" you want to be? By insinuating that my morality is inferior to yours, you paint an image of yourself as self-righteous and boring. Create a new self! Seize opportunity by the balls (is that sexist, too, or do I have to say "seize it by the t!ts" for it to be sexist? don't you see how ridiculous this is?) and create a destiny which is yours to define! As it is in New Eden, so it is on Earth. I have edited my last statment some, so reread, if it's any better. I do NOT claim my morality is superior to yours, nor have i ever said so. I am not hateful, actually if this had been an eye-to-eye conversation you'd have seen me laughing and smiling. I was just "pointing out" something i considered noteworthy to point out. And yes, i think that objecting to something i dislike can be productive (and would apply the same standard to other people). Actually if nobody dared pointing out things that they dislike, we'd all live together quite unpleasantly. (I appreciate ppl pointing out to me when i do something they don't like, because I get the opportunity to think about what I did, and if I maybe shouldnt have done it, or maybe simply don't want to continue with regard to the other persons preferences/feelings). And I do take my future in my hand and try to make my "destiny" (big word  ). Best regards, Karsa. Yes, I'm smiling too, so no ill will over here. My point is simply that I used an example which might or might not offend people, but truth be told, people need to be offended a little more, because in today's world it seems to be the greatest crime a person can commit, which I, of course, being who I am, created by my own choices, think is utterly ridiculous and extremely sad.
It's all right to "object" to things we dislike, but there is no point in objecting just for the sake of objecting. What was your purpose? To tell me that I used an offensive example, or to point out to other readers that they should disregard my post as offensive and demeaning? If people were to offend the different sexes, ethnic heritages, religious people, atheists, and so forth, a little bit more, then perhaps it would become less offensive, because the purpose is never to offend, but rather to make people understand the difference between speaking honest rather than go around the building, and to actually be offensive (like telling your best friend on his mother's funeral that she was fantastic in bed; now, that would indeed be offensive).
I do enjoy EVE's choice of word, even though it's hard creating a destiny in a world which has predefined your future. How nice it would be if the real world, too, was a sandbox! 
Regards, A. A. |

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
258
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:14:00 -
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Lenore Leelu wrote:
How many people have considered packing up and heading to Iceland to work for their favorite game company?
Yes.
Then I found out they pay 25-40% less than the rest of the industry...
GG#You go into combat, and itGGVs NOT going to be WagnerGG*industrial techno or really hard drum and bassGG% Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
513
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:26:00 -
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Additionally - don't forget that Icelandic banks, historically, have had no qualms with defrauding overseas customers and then turning around when those customers complain and going, "Whoa-oh, you can't touch us - sovereign funds!" |

Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:33:00 -
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Not sure I want to derail the thread entirely, but here goes: 
Akir Apathi wrote: If people were to offend the different sexes, ethnic heritages, religious people, atheists, and so forth, a little bit more, then perhaps it would become less offensive
That's debatable, to say the least. If its in good fun, I never mind (like comedians, satire, etc.), but it often isn't...
Akir Apathi wrote:, because the purpose is never to offend, but rather to make people understand the difference between speaking honest rather than go around the building That's most certainly not true. It may be true for you (good), but quite often, people do want to offend.
But i actually wasn't concerned with an offensive statement (i don't even think there was one), but with unconscious assumptions, that weren't meant to offend or make people understand either. Those assumptions are NOT reflected on, which is the problem and why i "pointed it out". There is usually no intent there either way, they are just present (and therefore even more worthy of being pointed out).
I purposefully didn't call YOU sexist, just said the comment had sexist undertones (which is based on a cultural bias, but let's not go there, i don't think either of us wants to turn this into a gender-bias seminar).
Okay, trying to get back to the thread somewhat: I actually concur with the advice you were giving to the OP in that comment, which I should have noted as well instead of just butting in off-topic. It was good advice, so quoted for repetition:
Akir Apathi wrote:The only question you must ask yourself is what you will regret the most 30 years from now: that you did - or that you didn't.
Also:
Akir Apathi wrote:I do enjoy EVE's choice of word, even though it's hard creating a destiny in a world which has predefined your future. How nice it would be if the real world, too, was a sandbox!  Quoted for quite a bit of truth that is also quite relevant for the OP.
More regards,  Karsa.
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Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 16:26:00 -
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Karsa Egivand wrote:That's debatable, to say the least. If its in good fun, I never mind (like comedians, satire, etc.), but it often isn't... Everything is debatable, but in our "cultural superior" world laws have been created to punish people using a right they were granted 1947 by the UN, freedom of speech, that is. I make a point to be as free as I can in my speech because I feel a tiredness and an increasing sense of powerlessness over the ridiculousness which possess our society and which is also shaping the norms we live by. I remember hearing about a case in Britain: one guy sings "Kung Fu Fighting" and two Chinese men walk by the bar/karaoke-studio/whatever. They reported him for racism, because they felt offended.
Karsa Egivand wrote:That's most certainly not true. It may be true for you (good), but quite often, people do want to offend.
I can list ten disgusting things about America, all true, and an American can choose to feel offended, or the American in question can share his view of these disgusting things. What people do nowadays, however, is to use laws put in place to prohibit criticism and remarks, no matter how true, if it can be looked upon as "offensive". This is ridiculous and the course must change.
Karsa Egivand wrote:But i actually wasn't concerned with an offensive statement (i don't even think there was one), but with unconscious assumptions, that weren't meant to offend or make people understand either. Those assumptions are NOT reflected on, which is the problem and why i "pointed it out". There is usually no intent there either way, they are just present (and therefore even more worthy of being pointed out).
I purposefully didn't call YOU sexist, just said the comment had sexist undertones (which is based on a cultural bias, but let's not go there, i don't think either of us wants to turn this into a gender-bias seminar). You mean my remark that a woman on a night out who isn't hard to get is a ****? I'm pretty sure that people would've noticed that, and they would have had a reaction towards it, or they wouldn't. I made the remark because the "approaching-a-girl-on-a-night-out"-scenario is something most guys can relate to, but most guys can also relate to the difference between the epithet I gave to the not-hard-to-get version, and the harder shes-so-darn-cute version. It's more complicated than my remark made it, but most people will pick it up like that however much unconscious.
I am indeed not a sexist (although I am strongly against the flood of radical feminism which has no connection to reality), and neither am I a racist, nor do I hate religious people, nor do I wish America to go down in ashes and fire, however, I do make harsh comments about women, men, ethnic heritages', religious people and Americans. I am completely aware that some people will feel offended, and I pity them, but for the same reasons people in this game won't stop shooting "carebears", I won't stop using a birthright I cherish: my right to speak freely. So if I have to choose between a boring example and an example which is more interesting (the example I gave in my post) I will never choose the boring example just to avoid offending someone. Gods! I could never live with myself if I turned into something that pathetic.
I just have a problem with hypocrites walking 'round the building rather than through it. It's like white people speaking about integration and start the sentence with, "I am not a racist, buuuuuut ... "
I have never been much for social conventions and I have never felt a need to paint a certain image of myself with the purpose to avoid people disliking me.
Karsa Egivand wrote:Okay, trying to get back to the thread somewhat: I actually concur with the advice you were giving to the OP in that comment, which I should have noted as well instead of just butting in off-topic. It was good advice, so quoted for repetition: Yes, indeed it's a way of life to aspire to! Now, if only I could use that advice of my own and jump from an airplane with a parachute ... well, soon, honest.
Karsa Egivand wrote:More regards,  Karsa.
Live well, A. A.
EDIT: This is indeed not on-topic, so we can just end it here.  |

EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.05.20 17:08:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Lenore Leelu wrote:
How many people have considered packing up and heading to Iceland to work for their favorite game company?
Yes. Then I found out they pay 25-40% less than the rest of the industry...
Considering the rest of the industry pays GMs 10 an hour. Guess that isn't much at all. |

Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
478
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Posted - 2012.05.20 17:27:00 -
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I know! It's your life. You decide!
(Lovely digression into gender feuding, btw. Saying "****" was in poor taste and the a-hole knows it.) Anyone with any sense has already left town. |

Akir Apathi
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.20 17:31:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:I know! It's your life. You decide!
(Lovely digression into gender feuding, btw. Saying "****" was in poor taste and the a-hole knows it.) What word would you have used instead of that one to make the same point? I'm curious. |

adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:31:00 -
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Ya go to iceland, for a **** job with idiots...
How many GM's know nothing..... TONS... so um...
Work for t1 tech support...
NO lol wtf. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
502
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:46:00 -
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Working for CCP would be awesome, but why would they hire an author? :(
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Karbowiak
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:21:00 -
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One of my friends decided to go work for CCP in their QA department (or whatever it's called).
Apparently he's flying all sorts of places now, fixing stuff. Atleast according to his facebook, lol..
That said, moving from Australia to Iceland is a big shift, then again you're going from one desolate island to another, and the only redeeming thing is that Iceland atleast has proper internet connections.
That having been said, if i had the skillset to go work for CCP (and not fear flying as if it was the ******* death) i'd go. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1030
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:24:00 -
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Lenore Leelu wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Lenore Leelu wrote:So should I start writing my CV to apply for a job in not so sunny Iceland? Or is my current customer service / IT Service Desk job in Australia with Logica going to keep me happy. Would someone from an IT Service Desk background (and with bachelors degree in computer science at RMIT (Melbourne) ) be of use in the Game Master's department at CCP? Australia, dam it's interesting. Sea, sun and hot galls ! Iceland? -herm, noes?  I'm at the southern end of Australia, Hobart. Our mountain gets snow on it. Its going to be a high of 13 degrees celcius on Monday. Perhaps I _can_ handle Reyjavik! 13 degrees?!
You lucky bastad :( I can't wait till it gets above zero here.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-a-a-MXZF |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:03:00 -
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Lenore Leelu wrote:
I'm at the southern end of Australia, Hobart. Our mountain gets snow on it. Its going to be a high of 13 degrees celcius on Monday. Perhaps I _can_ handle Reyjavik!
Reminds me of what the Greenhorns on Deadliest Catch say before they go and see just how cold and terrible it is in Alaska lol http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Akir Apathi
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:51:00 -
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Iceland is also the country which granted citizenship to the world's greatest chess-player, Bobby Fischer, or, as some may know him, the anti-semitic Jew. He made comments in an American radio-show after 9/11 that this was what America deserved, which, being Americans and all, they of course didn't like. He was incarcerated in Japan pending transference to America, if memory serves me right, so he called an old "friend" in Iceland whom had been present during the chess championship there in the 1972 between Mr. Fisher and Boris Spassky (the Cold War influenced not only NASA and massive weapon productions, but also chess). This friend in Iceland managed to get an Icelandic court grant Mr. Fischer citizenship.
Iceland stood up against America, gave it the finger and offered Mr. Fischer a place in their society. Of course, Mr. Fischer was utterly insane around this time and probably alienated everyone whom had helped him avoid a jail-cell in Guantanamo Bay.
Iceland? I like it! |
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