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Hairulfr
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hairulfr on 21/06/2009 16:29:19 Hello all. I broke my desktop PC about a year ago, took a break from EVE, came back a few weeks ago. The new client runs crappy on my laptop, so, looking for new one. I don't understand the new gfx-cards out there. I don't care about the rest of the comp, all it has to do is play EVE, and since everything comes with about 4GB of ram and pretty decent CPU's, all I need is one with a proper GPU, but, alas, I have no idea if they are good or crap. Any general guideline for sussing out wheter the card is go or no? It doesn't need to run eve at 60 FPS, but I'd like to run it with GFX at an ok level.
(PS. Desktop isn't an option) Thanks!
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Surotai
Amarr Dark Sabaoth
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:32:00 -
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If anything you'll want something with a solid processor as eve is more punishing on that by comparison to a lot of games. In my past experience anything by Nvidia tend to be alright for graphics. From personal preference I'd go for AMD for processor but there's some respectable Pentiums out nowadays you can choose from to. Also with gaming laptops make sure there is sufficient cooling for whatever you choose as some makes can be prone to overheating.
Hope that helps.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 21/06/2009 16:33:48 Geforce 7600 or higher should run it with a lot of the shiny goodness just fine. 7800 or better would be ideal.
Also, keep in mind that higher series means newer, not faster. If you get something like a 9300 and think it'll run any game halfway decently, I'll stab you (ingame).
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:33:00 -
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First off : what is "an ok level" ? I personally run EVE on "lowest everything" and it looks fine. The only thing that looks ugly as hell right now on those settings is the probing interface.
If it says "Intel GMA" or anything similar - stay away from it, as if it's the plague ! At most reputable laptop sellers, you get to see if the graphics card is "integrated" or "standalone" (and if its memory is "shared" or not). You should favour standalone, non-shared-memory graphics card laptops. Other than that, it's pretty much like the desktop video cards. EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
Lousalk
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lousalk on 21/06/2009 16:36:24 Haha, I'll keep that in mind :)
I'm leaning towards AMD.
My old laptop had a 7950gt, and that worked out fine. Well, I'll start looking. Cooling is hard to test though, unless you have it unboxed and in front of you :S
Yeah, staying away from the intel integrated and shared memory ones.
Found one cheap AMD with a Radeon HD 3200 256mb card.
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Hairulfr
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Hairulfr on 21/06/2009 16:37:54 Anddd... It keeps choosing that char...
Hm, an ok level is, well, if it has to be low I'll be fine, just needs to run it smooth.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:46:00 -
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Radeon 3200 falls under the same category as a Geforce 8300.
That is, it's a low-end card not designed for anything.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
Look here.
Granted, it will probably run EVE relatively smoothly on low settings, but don't expect much flashyness.
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Dragon Greg
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Posted - 2009.06.21 17:09:00 -
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Just make sure it has its own GPU, not those integrated ones. Also make damn sure to NOT pick one with an NVidia GPU of the 7 and 8 series.
Personally if you really must go for a laptop I'd wait till after summer, new technologies, pricecuts on current technologies, maybe more of an idea what CCP are going to do with GPU programming (and this hardware support) or their decision on SM 2 support, etc.
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Dodgy Past
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Posted - 2009.06.21 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 21/06/2009 18:23:45 The second Dell on this page would be enough. You could get away with one of the 15 inchers if your going to plug it into a monitor anyway, personally I'd think 15"would be a bit small. In this case the Ati 3650 is what will make sure you can play Eve.
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Hairulfr
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Posted - 2009.06.21 18:38:00 -
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The Dell Studio 17 is looking promising. Thank you!
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.21 19:02:00 -
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Either ATI or Nvidia is fine. They key is the model. My PC features a Nvidia GF8800 GTS, this is massively overpowered for eve and will run any game in existence and max detail and then some. My much slower laptop has a vanilla GF8400, it runs eve on max detail but I think it's the minimum card that could do so.
In both ATI and Nvidia cards, the first number is the generation, the second is the level and the third is a 0 for full version or a 5 if it is a downgraded model. So, a GF8800 is a generation 8 card (current is 9 I believe), speed of 8 and full performance version. The GTS signifies an upgraded version over the base model. My 8800 is many many times faster than a 9200, 9300 or 9400. It's probably equal to a 9600 or slightly better. More GPU ram is better and there are variances in RAM speed. So if at all possible you will want to look at the details. Stay away from anything with a "50" at the end of it. A GF9250 (worst possible current generation card) will probably not run anything beyond solitaire. A 9450 or 9550 isn't going to be much better. |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 19:47:00 -
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there a nice set of 9300m is a good one
just brought a laptop and it running fine |
Dodgy Past
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hairulfr The Dell Studio 17 is looking promising. Thank you!
Pretty much the one I'm going to be getting though I'll probably customise it up a little bit. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:20:00 -
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If the op can wait just a little longer he can drop about $500~1000 on the new nvidia powered ion chipsets and run games like its on a dedicated gaming machine. At least thats the hype so far but from independent tests I've read it looks very promising, basically the next evolution of high end mobile and even desktop graphics.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1243332801932.html
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:32:00 -
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You can that way keep waiting forever. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:42:00 -
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Well its supposed to be out in the next month or two so forever might be a bit of a stretch and the increase in performance is supposed to be staggering. Basically like stuffing a few of those brand spanking new 2xxGTX desktop cards into a laptop without any of the heat or power issues. However I understand what you mean as there is always something better next month and the next month etc.. |
Duchess Meliae
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:49:00 -
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Running the game on a 8200m with a 2.5ghz AMD dual core. Not top of the line, yes it is integrated. 35fps in Missions, 60fps in station, 30fps mining.
If you buy a laptop with a 9300 you will be able to play eve in any situation on medium settings without a problem.
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.21 20:52:00 -
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Get the best one you can afford in a lap seeing as how you can't upgrade a graphics card in a laptop. Unless you have an electrical engineering degree. I'd say fix the desktop since you can always upgrade those thus saving money. But if not just see the above. _________________________ HATERS!!!!
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Shurrurru
Blue Unicorns Love Pineapple
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Posted - 2009.06.22 00:06:00 -
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I'm using an ASUS M50VM and it runs EvE nicely. It's either 9800M or 9600M. Only downside is the 4gb ram and 1gb video memory wastes a lot with the 32-bit operating system.
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Moredeeb
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Posted - 2009.06.22 03:45:00 -
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go here:
http://www.alienware.com/products/notebook-computers.aspx
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Mish'Kala
Minmatar Infiniti Matar Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.22 09:31:00 -
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I run on an HP G70 with an nVidia 9300m. i get an average of 35 FPS out of eve with high shader and textures, but no bloom or shadows.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.22 09:55:00 -
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My laptop has an 8600GTM in and runs eve fine
I would go for 9600GTM probably
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.22 10:55:00 -
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runnning acer aspire 4935
would highly recomend it.
comes with nvidia 9300m GS 512 dedicated turbo cache 3 gb ram 320 HDD HDMI out 3 usb hubs has virtual surround sound and sound is really crisp , loud and clear. ( was going down for a supra track day and could hear with in the car and the car is very loud ) looks sweet has a touch sensitive media bar on the right hand side of the keyboard AND it disipiates heat like a beast. never had a laptop that stay so cool while subjected to being on for the last 3 days downloading and using the disk drive solidly ect ect
got mine for 499 in comet in the uk
here are some pics http://www.newtechnology.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/acer-aspire-4935.jpg
my desktop is a acer and have had no problem.
if you do buy it though you will need to buy some writable DVD's though to make your backup disks , it 2 DVD's for vistas and 1 DVD for the drivers, you can as many copies as you want and to do it you just access it though the empowering technology button on the keyboard. quick easy take about 20 minutes to write the 2 dvd's
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Taipan Leviathan
Dark Star Confederation
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Posted - 2009.06.22 13:51:00 -
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This might be handy for you.
All the recent laptop cards and their 3dmark score
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Nakuda
Gallente Adventurers Matari Visionary Coalition
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Posted - 2009.06.22 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba If the op can wait just a little longer he can drop about $500~1000 on the new nvidia powered ion chipsets and run games like its on a dedicated gaming machine. At least thats the hype so far but from independent tests I've read it looks very promising, basically the next evolution of high end mobile and even desktop graphics. http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1243332801932.html
Originally by: Zeba Well its supposed to be out in the next month or two so forever might be a bit of a stretch and the increase in performance is supposed to be staggering. Basically like stuffing a few of those brand spanking new 2xxGTX desktop cards into a laptop without any of the heat or power issues. However I understand what you mean as there is always something better next month and the next month etc..
It's basically a chipset for Intel Atom processors with integrated GeForce 9400M graphics card... Very good for very small battery powered devices like netbooks, but still isn't anywhere in the same neighborhood as a powerfull laptop or desktop computer. Nvidia ION |
Hariya
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Posted - 2009.06.22 14:54:00 -
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My Ati X1200X mobile is sufficient for 1680x1050 when I tune down the settings slightly.. No HDR bloom stuff, but good to go. |
5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.06.22 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 22/06/2009 15:17:38
Originally by: Rawr Cristina My laptop has an 8600GTM in and runs eve fine
I would go for 9600GTM probably
Cristina full of wisdom as always.
I have a 9600 GS and in large resolutions and max details it can start to show signs of not running quite as smooth. Enabling High Dynamic Range particularly on any game including Eve seems to really hurt the performance on these cards for barely any visual difference.
A 9600 GT has enough of an edge over the GS to curb that.
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Netacq
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Posted - 2009.06.22 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Netacq on 22/06/2009 16:04:20
Originally by: Armoured C runnning acer aspire 4935 would highly recomend it. :
I did try a Acer Aspire 8930G (1920x1080; Quad 2.0Ghz) ==> 40..60FPS with 2 Clients in 1280x1024 ==> the PC did fail: overheating of CPU. EVE was throttling the CPU to 400MHz after 5..10min.
PS: TheLaptop was also planned for Video-Processing and VmWare |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.22 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nakuda It's basically a chipset for Intel Atom processors with integrated GeForce 9400M graphics card... Very good for very small battery powered devices like netbooks, but still isn't anywhere in the same neighborhood as a powerfull laptop or desktop computer. Nvidia ION
Actually yes it is. The 9400m is simply *one* of the ion based gpu models and the dedicated high end ion chipsets will be quite the powerhouse. Regardless of what ion chipset that is included in the laptop it will run circles around any current integrated chip or even a dedicated older tech gpu. Bottom line is he can wait just a bit longer and drop $500 on a netbook/laptop with the ion chipset or pay 2~5 times as much for an older model with the pricey high performance and power hungry current tech gpu's just to get the sameish level of performance.
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