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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.15 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Originally by: Absalom Marathon Getting blobbed is when the opponent out of either boredom (everyone wanna join (sitting in a cap all the time doin nothing doesn't seem to be fun, and I understand MSpilots hotdropping on me, I really do)) or fear (omg we can't beat them in an eaven fight!) bring way more than they need to kill you. Then we have omgwtfJesusblob, that when your gang of say 10 ship meets like a 70+ man fleet.
Being a 'blobber' is when you every freakin possible time bring the jesusfleet, making fighting boring as hell.
You mean like this?
http://dark.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3461271
143 man fleet with 90 caps and a titan ready to JB in 50 RR BS is so not a blob.
Cool Story Bro
Lolwut. I see 25 hostiles on that mail. There was no Titan ready, or any subcaps. We weren't looking for a fight but to save the tower, objective achieved, no losses. N1. If anything it was you kids who were 'blobbing' by dropping 50 BS on our 4 bait carriers.
50 BS? More like 15. The fleet you saw earlier in the night =/= what we had there.
We know exactly what you had in your fleet, just because you didn't bridge it in doesn't mean that you didn't have it. But I gotta admit that was pretty impressive that you were able to get all that together in an hour or so. |
Arathon Theimies
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:04:00 -
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Funny, I didnt know we had a titan..... |
Grez
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:06:00 -
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We have a titan? |
Joshamee Gibbs
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:08:00 -
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it must have been an allied titan. I don't know, I'm not privy to being loldropped by x number of carriers. regardless, until someone gets something bigger than a carrier on a solo frigate, I think we hold the record for overkill. |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:18:00 -
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I think Dark rising is full of ****.
Eating Scallops. |
Joshamee Gibbs
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:22:00 -
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it's not dark as a whole, it's just me -------------
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Jogvan
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Originally by: Absalom Marathon Getting blobbed is when the opponent out of either boredom (everyone wanna join (sitting in a cap all the time doin nothing doesn't seem to be fun, and I understand MSpilots hotdropping on me, I really do)) or fear (omg we can't beat them in an eaven fight!) bring way more than they need to kill you. Then we have omgwtfJesusblob, that when your gang of say 10 ship meets like a 70+ man fleet.
Being a 'blobber' is when you every freakin possible time bring the jesusfleet, making fighting boring as hell.
You mean like this?
http://dark.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=3461271
143 man fleet with 90 caps and a titan ready to JB in 50 RR BS is so not a blob.
Cool Story Bro
Lolwut. I see 25 hostiles on that mail. There was no Titan ready, or any subcaps. We weren't looking for a fight but to save the tower, objective achieved, no losses. N1. If anything it was you kids who were 'blobbing' by dropping 50 BS on our 4 bait carriers.
50 BS? More like 15. The fleet you saw earlier in the night =/= what we had there.
We know exactly what you had in your fleet, just because you didn't bridge it in doesn't mean that you didn't have it. But I gotta admit that was pretty impressive that you were able to get all that together in an hour or so.
Good to know you got such excellent intel on our fleets
Besides that tower had been in rf for like 8-12 hours, expected you to bring dreads again but left disappointed (with a repped and online tower)
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:35:00 -
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Any time you war dec Eve Uni. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.15 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jogvan Good to know you got such excellent intel on our fleets
Besides that tower had been in rf for like 8-12 hours, expected you to bring dreads again but left disappointed (with a repped and online tower)
I'm always up for a good cap fight, but at that time it was way past most of the EU guys bedtime, so we said **** it and let you guys have it.
If we brought out the carriers and dreads I wonder how long we would have have been lagged out? Probably months lol
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Kulmid
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.15 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Joshamee Gibbs it must have been an allied titan. I don't know, I'm not privy to being loldropped by x number of carriers. regardless, until someone gets something bigger than a carrier on a solo frigate, I think we hold the record for overkill.
I remember hearing a story once about a Myrmidon jumping into a gate camp and cloaking. When the camp failed to decloak it, and knew it couldn't have warped, they brought in a titan and doomsdayed it while it was still cloak. Needless to say the Myrmidon died.
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Dotard
Minmatar Chaos Coalition Chaotic Evolution
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Posted - 2009.06.16 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dotard on 16/06/2009 12:16:36 The Blob is an independently made American horror/science-fiction film from 1958 depicting a giant amoeba-like alien that terrorizes the small community of Downingtown, Pennsylvania. It was not until star Steve McQueen became famous with the TV series Wanted: Dead or Alive that the film became a hit at the drive-in theatres. Today, the film is recognized as one of the quintessential 1950s American sci-fi/horror films.
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2009.06.16 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid
I remember hearing a story once about a Myrmidon jumping into a gate camp and cloaking. When the camp failed to decloak it, and knew it couldn't have warped, they brought in a titan and doomsdayed it while it was still cloak. Needless to say the Myrmidon died.
thats not a blob, thats just 100% hilarious :D
Put in space whales!
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Joshamee Gibbs
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.17 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Joshamee Gibbs on 17/06/2009 00:08:55 Edited by: Joshamee Gibbs on 17/06/2009 00:08:43 we might have a new winner
https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=196492
shame they didn't catch anything smaller -------------
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G Mooo
Chaos Reborn Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.17 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: G Mooo on 17/06/2009 02:55:44 Edited by: G Mooo on 17/06/2009 02:55:32 Hard to beat the times when (while solo roaming in a ceptor) people pulled out a 20man gang to chase me (including sniper bs, 2 minmatar recons, dictors, etc). I think that counts a blob.
that said, blob is just a term people use when they want to whine. since normally the whiners would use the exact same tactic if they had the chance :)
Kulmid, that was an epic story |
Boydsan DeZinj
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Posted - 2009.06.17 05:57:00 -
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Essentially a Blob is a fleet of 1+ that faces a target and is used to define what is thought as an overwhelming force. A Blob of 2 rifters ganked 1 Sniper Tempest, for instance. At this point, there is no real definition - except it is now being used as an insult.
Perhaps we should try to fight with the minimum amount of force to win an engagement? For instance, I know enemy fleet A only has 2 Ruptures and 1 Hurricane and we have 5 Rifters, 10 Hurricanes, and 5 tempests. Why dont we hold back and only attack with 2 Hurricanes and 1 rifter?
Problem is, most people do not value the mere fight - but the kill mail and in 0.0 the fight can often mean remaining in an area or not. if anyone knows what the Clanners are from Battletech/Mechwarrior - we are more Inner Sphere and Clan in that aspect. We mostly kill or be killed. Numbers be damned. Mostly.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.17 06:59:00 -
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You know you're part of a blob when a BS melts before you can even get a lock (<6 seconds)
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Dasfry
Caldari Demio's Corporation 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 07:53:00 -
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Blob Tactics
Blob Tactics consist of the direct route. That is simply overwhelming your opponents with numbers in a single wave. Blob tactics often do little else.
Blob tactics are similar to both Zerg Tactics and Swarm Tactics. The Blob does not require the organization of swarm tactics, and does not emphasize the replacability of Zerg tactics. *********** Military Tactics Dasfry, CEO Demio's Corporation
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Jodie Amille
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.06.17 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jodie Amille on 17/06/2009 08:21:11 Disclaimer: I couldn't care less about losing ships, I'm only after good, lag-free fights. I'm happy to fight outnumbered as long as it's not clear-cut suicide and sometimes even if it is.
Anything that won't engage without a clear cut risk free win is a blob.
EDIT: These are minimum examples
IE: 2 BS and a BC to fight 3 bc's is a blob.
6 bc's, 4 cruisers and some frigs to fight a 10-man cruiser gang is a blob.
Other terms: Carebear PVPer: anyone who won't fight unless in a blob.
Lamer FC: feels the need to bring ewar when already heavily outnumbering the enemy, runs to reship when you undock a gang that will give their gang a run for their money while still having a numbers/ships advantage, brings enough ewar to jam the enemy gang 3x over then smacks them for not fighting.
Clueless ratards: x up for blobs when there's not even a wt gang around that end up being 20+ in FW and expecting a fight when they KNOW it will only end up a lagfest. And then complaining about the lag. |
Stygian Knight
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.17 11:08:00 -
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Simplest you can get. (there is a difference between last two, but hotdrop is way cooler and delivers more power)
gank < blob < hotdrop
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Ira Black
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:40:00 -
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Jumped into low-sec with a rupture along a few other people. We had about 6 ships. We got attacked by 12 hostiles, including jammers etc. My co-pilots jumped out. I was too slow. I wasn't blobbed in my opinion. 12 vs 1 (or vs 6 if you count our entire gang) isn't being blobbed. I think a blob is a massive fleet swamping your overview. I also think it's possible for 1 blob to fight another blob. With lag and all
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2009.06.19 17:33:00 -
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A gang that is larger than yours by any decent margin.
A group of crappy players that preform poorly but cannot easily be killed because they hold together.
A group gathered for a specific fight that outnumbers the opponent so far that the fight is mostly a matter of getting tackle and baiting.
Your mom.
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Syringe
Oedipus Complex
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Posted - 2009.06.19 18:21:00 -
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Go hang around Mamet or Ziriert and just start shooting people. It gets a bit blobtacular around there about 85% of the time. |
TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.06.20 11:32:00 -
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Blob is a disproportional application of numbers to reduce risk. Around 3:1 I would call a blob of similar ship types. Obviously sending 3 cruisers after a battleship is not blobbing the battleship. |
Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.20 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dasfry Blob Tactics
Blob Tactics consist of the direct route. That is simply overwhelming your opponents with numbers in a single wave. Blob tactics often do little else.
Blob tactics are similar to both Zerg Tactics and Swarm Tactics. The Blob does not require the organization of swarm tactics, and does not emphasize the replacability of Zerg tactics.
Stop posting. Make Warfare & Tactics a better place. Please. ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |
Ferril Staz
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Posted - 2009.06.20 14:48:00 -
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Wasn't the term originally used to describe an unstructered large fleet? For example, you could have 10 sniper BS at 150k, 5 tacklers at 0k, 5 support half way between, 3 ECM + 2 logistics at stand-off range and 5 scouts covering the gates. Snipers are shooting primaries, tacklers have got 5 ships tackled (points spread), support is killing anything trying to reach the snipers, etc. This would not have been described as a blob.
The same ships, all milling around just trying to shoot whatever they can is a blob.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.06.20 17:39:00 -
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Blob is a mass of of ships and weaponry that consumes rather than fights, it has so many people that half the fleet doesnt even get to shoot the primary.
A 50 man gang with allocated squads (2 bs squads, 1 support, 1 tackler, 1 ewar squad) is a fleet. yet to the loosing side seeing 20 bs, 10 bc/cruiser, 10 tacklers and 10 ewar ships on the field is a blob.
IN factionwar Blob is the word used by the loosing side to shove of shame and embarassment. Like when the opposing fc wants to go a set way to his destination then the "fleet" moves in the way. He then emo rage quits and blames it on the "blob". Another exampls is when they bring out a battleship fleet and we beat them in a BC/cruiser gang which is actually smaller than that of the enemy fleet. Every time any one uses the word blob ive started to realise its actually them admiting they cant do anything and them admiting they failed or will fail. Bringing a 92 man fleet and sitting it in kamela with 4 active targets sat in a station is a blob though i will give you that.
I will from now on refrain from using the word blob and have done for a while.
And on a side note, at the USA are blobbing Iraq, us brits are blobbing Afghanistan and the EU is blobbing the world. That is the real reason we take it out in games :P |
SheriffFruitfly
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.22 01:55:00 -
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Blob = 1 more ship than is in my gang. __________________________________________________________
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.06.22 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 22/06/2009 20:00:43 Definition of Blob. Would have had them if they hadn't brought that extra BS. :)
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.06.22 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jodie Amille Anything that won't engage without a clear cut risk free win is a blob.
EDIT: These are minimum examples
IE: 2 BS and a BC to fight 3 bc's is a blob.
6 bc's, 4 cruisers and some frigs to fight a 10-man cruiser gang is a blob.
Other terms: Carebear PVPer: anyone who won't fight unless in a blob.
Lamer FC: feels the need to bring ewar when already heavily outnumbering the enemy, runs to reship when you undock a gang that will give their gang a run for their money while still having a numbers/ships advantage, brings enough ewar to jam the enemy gang 3x over then smacks them for not fighting.
Clueless ratards: x up for blobs when there's not even a wt gang around that end up being 20+ in FW and expecting a fight when they KNOW it will only end up a lagfest. And then complaining about the lag.
This, to be honest.
You see, in Amarr/Minmatar faction warfare we are in a perpetual zen-like game of cat and mouse; a search for the 'perfect engagement.' This engagement takes place at the control bunker in Ezzara with perfectly balanced sides, lasts for three hours with both sides reinforcing their teams symmetrically (very much like pairs figure skating), and results in the complete destruction of both fleets, ending with an inty duel in which both ships explode simultaneously. All pilots are podded (inty pilots /fallsword). All clones awake in Jove space for their pursuit of perfection.
To understand this mindset exclusive to faction warfare, Jodie left out one very important FC archetype:
The Highroad Hypocrite FC: This FC tries to shame foes by quoting their own blob/fleet makeup back to them in local (usually with hilarious inaccuracies) followed by claiming they will never engage another fleet with a Falcon. This FC turns up at the next fight in a Falcon.
To me: a blob is simply a large group of ships. It is not uncommon to see the following in Minmatar militia chat:
Player X: where's the enemy blob? Player Y: Forming up in Tuomuta on Kamela gate. Player X: where's our bolb? Player Y: x up to find out. retail box noob: 32 of us on auoga gate in siseed. Player Y: /me shakes head. Frank Monkey: bah bah black sheep, have you any wool...
Tip of the day! Always count every ship in local (and adjacent systems) as ships your enemy was trying to use to blob you. Neutrals, haulers, NPC rats: these are all vital weapons in the blobber's arsenal. Do the right thing and make sure you include them in your whine post.
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Wraithstorm
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.06.23 00:44:00 -
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I know Im going to get flamed for this but as an FC I believe there is no such thing as a blob. This is war, and in war you are not going to have 2 FCs agree to bring certain ships, fitted for certain things, and in certain numbers. I form my fleets to win. I WILL bring 10 Falcons, I will bring Capitals. My objective is to kill you, and nothing else. (ingame) If my fleet is outnumbered then I need to try to improve my position or fleet makeup, and if that cant happen then I need to try to accomplish another objective with what I have.
3 nights in a row I formed up 30 man fleets with NO enemies in sight, however they got wind of us, formed a fleet and we fought so to those who say forming fleets with no enemy in sight is a waste of time you need to have your heads checked. I dont give a damn whos side your on. Part of my objective when Im logged in is to dominate the skies around the combat sector. You cant do that if you simply sit in the station and wait to catch wind of enemy fleet flying around. |
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