Dumping ships into space for people to board is not an exploit.

The real fix for the "problem" might be:

1) Boarding a ship in space should start you off with zero capacitor.

2) Or possibly a delay of 5-20 seconds before you can activate modules.

3) Can't do anything at all for 5-20 seconds after boarding.

4) There should be a 5-20 second delay before you can target anything (similar to the decloak delay).

Not being able to target anything for 20 seconds after boarding would some of the current grief play. Starting off with zero capacitor would require the use of cap boosters in order to warp out before the faction navy catches up with you.

Not sure which of those methods would be best.

Agreed

I dont like griefers, nor the bs ways of raping people, but orca isnt the problem.

Just make Concord pod kill any pirates(red sec stat) as if it was a ship. End of issue

Why isn't CCP taking consequences in hi-sec to a logical conclusion? I always hear that CONCORD gives consequences not protection. And yet criminals can waltz into hi-sec in a pod with no consequences.

I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners..

Absolutely. Why isn't CCP taking consequences in hi-sec to a logical conclusion? I always hear that CONCORD gives consequences not protection. And yet criminals can waltz into hi-sec in a pod with no consequences.

If CONCORD starts podding criminals you will still have miners being ganked. But not from the same toon(s) indefinitely.

That's because the criminals have already suffered the consequences. That's how they became criminals. Now they're no longer CONCORD's problem. The logical conclusion was reached ages ago.

And if that was the case why does CCP restrict criminals from entering certain sections of hi-sec? If as you said the criminal has paid his price, why restrict him at all? They have done their time. Of course that is never the case with criminal acts in RL and shouldn't be here. You want to commit a crime. Fine. But don't tell me you paid the price so you can waltz right back in to do it again. You should be restricted to the jail (low-sec) with the other criminals and have CONCORD enforce the consequences of your actions.

I did!
Orca is meant for mining not killing miners

CCP Restricts nobody from going anywhere.

Faction Navies restrict SHIPS flown by Criminals from entering their space. As soon as you get illegally shot by a Pod, CONCORD and the Faction Navies will start shooting pods.

Anyway, anyone can shoot a criminal's pod. If you want to keep criminals pods out of your space, shoot them or hire someone to shoot them.

And if that was the case why does CCP restrict criminals from entering certain sections of hi-sec?

Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
Do you want these events to take place and why?

And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc..
Above line mainly aimed at the goons..


HmmhHHHMMMmmmm...

OP has a point. Capital ships aren't suppose to be in high sec for a reason. Fix this broken mechanic of allowing the orca in high security space. If you want to mine with bonuses from a cap ship it should be confined to low and null sec.

You all whine about my threads, yet you keep resurrecting them..
But with Goons new 24/7 infinite hulkageddon, expect this nerf to ganking to come very, very soon!

CCP Restricts nobody from going anywhere.

Faction Navies restrict SHIPS flown by Criminals from entering their space. As soon as you get illegally shot by a Pod, CONCORD and the Faction Navies will start shooting pods.

Anyway, anyone can shoot a criminal's pod. If you want to keep criminals pods out of your space, shoot them or hire someone to shoot them.

You do realise the only capitals that aren't allowed in highsec are the ones that can't use gates, right? That by restricting Orcas to low-null only they would also have to restrict freighters too?

Well thought out reasoning there.

And I understand CCP not wanting to restrict anyone, but it would seem to me that they will need to revisit that idea.

No.

Want to kill Burn Jita and Hulkageddon?

It's simple!! Fix the Orca so it cannot jettison ships in space for -10 status pirates to jump into from their pods..

This has got me thinking, you can easily fix this exploit BUT do you want to?
Do you want these events to take place and why?

And it amazes me how delusional people are, thinking they are making a difference in eve.. and can ransom CCP etc..
Above line mainly aimed at the goons..


HmmhHHHMMMmmmm...

You realise I was making a ridiculous statement in order to make a point? Sorry if you missed it.

And yet this is not my space as in 0.0 it is NPC controlled space. In 0.0 you keep the un-welcomed out by the cohesion of your alliance. There is no such thing in hi-sec. Except CONCORD.

And I understand CCP not wanting to restrict anyone, but it would seem to me that they will need to revisit that idea. In many ways the criminal ship restriction is preventing you from fully utilizing an area already. Along with being a hole to exploit for other activities. And having CONCORD pod you does not restrict you from entering that area. It just gives you consequences for doing so. That were incurred by your actions.

Why?

Because I don't believe CCPs concept of hi-sec is working. Eve Online is a harsh games. Hard to learn. CCP has said hi-sec is safer. Not safe. Safer. There will be consequences if some one breaks a hi-sec law. And yet the consequences for criminals are underwhelming.

With the current setup, this is what CCP is telling me.


1. If someone drives into your peaceful neighbor, blows up your car and shoots you in the head we will take his car and send him on his way.

2. If someone pays this person to drive into your neighborhood, blows up your car and shoots you in the head we will take his car and send him on this way.

3. If we see this person again we will watch him until his does that all over again before we take his car..again.

I think there would be a bit more outrage in the real world. Questions like: Um. Why are you letting him into our neighborhood again when you know that they are just going to put a bullet in someones head?

I don't mind the actions so much as the consequences attached to them.

And yet the consequences for criminals are underwhelming.

With the current setup, this is what CCP is telling me. [silly RL comparisons]

I don't mind the actions so much as the consequences attached to them.

The faction police start shooting his car as soon as it shows up.

Again, CONCORD provides consequences to specific acts of illegal aggression. Always has. There is no thought Police in EvE.