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Diziet EmblassSma
Caldari Caldari Freelancers Association
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Posted - 2009.05.27 16:49:00 -
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There are some obvious clues, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions?
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.27 16:51:00 -
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Just sui. Gank them anyway, CCP doesn't do ****.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.05.27 17:08:00 -
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Well, there's no real way to tell the difference between a bot and a guy from viewing in game. Stuff you can look for:
1) Exact timings. Get your stopwatch out and figure out if the guy is warping to and from the station, flipping on the strip miners, etc...on an exact schedule. Most bots don't have a random time thingy attached to them as it would degrade their throughput. 2) 23 hour operation. Same guy(s), constantly mining in the same spot(s) on a schedule. Every day/week. (ore mining bots will start a cycle of cleaning out belts in systems in the same order after every belt respawn, ice bots will just warp to a spot and mine. Usually in range of a secure can to transfer ore to the hauler, or just back and forth to the same spot) 3) Gank the guy..does the pod keep coming back and forth from station to the spot? If so, you've *definately* found someone running a macro. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Neuronai
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Posted - 2009.05.27 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Well, there's no real way to tell the difference between a bot and a guy from viewing in game. Stuff you can look for:
1) Exact timings. Get your stopwatch out and figure out if the guy is warping to and from the station, flipping on the strip miners, etc...on an exact schedule. Most bots don't have a random time thingy attached to them as it would degrade their throughput. 2) 23 hour operation. Same guy(s), constantly mining in the same spot(s) on a schedule. Every day/week. (ore mining bots will start a cycle of cleaning out belts in systems in the same order after every belt respawn, ice bots will just warp to a spot and mine. Usually in range of a secure can to transfer ore to the hauler, or just back and forth to the same spot) 3) Gank the guy..does the pod keep coming back and forth from station to the spot? If so, you've *definately* found someone running a macro.
4) Blast their pod.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.05.27 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Neuronai
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne Well, there's no real way to tell the difference between a bot and a guy from viewing in game. Stuff you can look for:
1) Exact timings. Get your stopwatch out and figure out if the guy is warping to and from the station, flipping on the strip miners, etc...on an exact schedule. Most bots don't have a random time thingy attached to them as it would degrade their throughput. 2) 23 hour operation. Same guy(s), constantly mining in the same spot(s) on a schedule. Every day/week. (ore mining bots will start a cycle of cleaning out belts in systems in the same order after every belt respawn, ice bots will just warp to a spot and mine. Usually in range of a secure can to transfer ore to the hauler, or just back and forth to the same spot) 3) Gank the guy..does the pod keep coming back and forth from station to the spot? If so, you've *definately* found someone running a macro.
4) Blast their pod.
I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone who would ask the question 'how do you spot a macro miner' blast a pod with their main. They know not what they do.
Create an alt. Get alt into a destroyer. Fit with short-range, high-damage guns...Blow the snot out of pod with alt.
Discover the sound of a podding sounds good..take alt to lowsec, fund with high sec shenanigans until you get good..Make alt main..you're done. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.05.27 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
3) Gank the guy..does the pod keep coming back and forth from station to the spot? If so, you've *definately* found someone running a macro.
this is really the only way
some nonbot miners are so methodical they will look exactly like a bot they are THAT a-na-l
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VoiceInTheDesert
Zebra Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.05.27 18:59:00 -
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How to find macroers
1. Go to high sec ice belt 2. Look for the silly names huddled around a can with a hauler coming at precise intervals to pick it up 3. ???? 4. Profit?
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Squidly
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Posted - 2009.05.27 19:10:00 -
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Macro Ice miners are a sure bet for easy ISK. Not all of them are smart enough to use secure cans. Many still do simple jet mining. Even some human Ice miners still do simple jet mining.
Get a blocakde runner.
Sidle up to jet can.
Load your holds. So what if they shoot you? You are stabbed and tanked and they can't do bugger all about it.
Warp to station and unload.
Rinse and repeat.
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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.27 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 27/05/2009 20:53:16 Something like this is usually a pretty good indication, yeah.
There's always The Bump. Most humans start asking questions in local when you ram them a few times. Just say your docking computer is on the fritz again...
If they go offcourse and don't say a word, you've probably hit a macro. disclaimer: that bump method may be waaaay out of date. But the part about local is, i'd wager, still true :D
Edit: just noticed OP's name. This is for you
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Areah Mar'khet
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.05.27 20:55:00 -
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If they have gibberish names, they're macro miners. Blow them up. If they have teeeny weeny little hulks, they're micro miners. Leave them alone. They have a disability you are now reading my signature |
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.05.27 21:27:00 -
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gank them.
if they send you hate mail, they're a real person, if not, they're a bot.
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Diziet EmblassSma
Caldari Caldari Freelancers Association
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:59:00 -
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All good advice...cheers.
Its a real pity that the sites that sell these damn things don't have a "look what some of our customers are saying" section with the macro miners name attached to "Easy to set up, I was mining with NO effort in minutes" - Macro Mickey....would make things easier.
So, really, look for patterns, silly names, they are quiet when bumped, they have "ming" in their name, (all though I suspect, without checking, that there is a valid char named Merciless Ming somewhere in EVE - I have however seen a few Wangs...does that count I wonder?), "do it" with an alt, and say sorry if they mail you telling you how much they hate you and that you are a ****?
Seems pretty straight forward/
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Wakashan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere gank them.
if they send you hate mail, they're a real person, if not, they're a bot.
I'm all for this idea.
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MrChook
Uranus Assault Team
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Posted - 2009.05.28 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Squidly
Get a blocakde runner. . . . Load your holds. So what if they shoot you? You are stabbed and tanked and they can't do bugger all about it.
You need to keep up with the patch notes
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.28 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Hellfury on 28/05/2009 05:07:42
Originally by: MrChook
Originally by: Squidly
Get a blocakde runner. . . . Load your holds. So what if they shoot you? You are stabbed and tanked and they can't do bugger all about it.
You need to keep up with the patch notes
I'm even going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant deep space transport.. Where will you be doing these runs and approximately what time? I haven't actually used my hictor in combat yet..
Edit: Fail typing..
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Zar Terra
MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2009.05.28 05:14:00 -
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Join pub channel MacroIntel, we'll help you out if we can.
-= NightShifter =- "Hilarious Griefing Engine"
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Miney Prospector
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.05.28 05:19:00 -
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Assume all miners are macroing as your method for dealing with them is identical.
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Kher'Aleer
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.28 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma
So, really, look for patterns, silly names, they are quiet when bumped, they have "ming" in their name, "do it" with an alt, and say sorry if they mail you telling you how much they hate you and that you are a ****?
Add solo hulks, ninja mining at random belts, to this list and you're good to go. Anyone ninja-mining in a hulk must die for even resembling a macro miner!
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Vharl Ochre
69th Tactical Air Arm
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Posted - 2009.05.28 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma ...there is a valid char named Merciless Ming somewhere in EVE - I have however seen a few Wangs...does that count I wonder...
I'm suprised nobody tried to get a laugh out of that
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yeomen
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vharl Ochre
Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma ...there is a valid char named Merciless Ming somewhere in EVE - I have however seen a few Wangs...does that count I wonder...
I'm suprised nobody tried to get a laugh out of that
I thought I had a witty joke about wangs AND merciless mings but I failed and now I just have an erection.
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Andemnon Kohort
Minmatar Rukongai Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kher'Aleer
Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma
So, really, look for patterns, silly names, they are quiet when bumped, they have "ming" in their name, "do it" with an alt, and say sorry if they mail you telling you how much they hate you and that you are a ****?
Add solo hulks, ninja mining at random belts, to this list and you're good to go. Anyone ninja-mining in a hulk must die for even resembling a macro miner!
just make sure the can your ripping matches the name of the miner... some miners like to hunt bear
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Mystafyre
Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma There are some obvious clues, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions?
Go to nearest ice field...
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Dr Clamidia
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Posted - 2009.05.28 11:43:00 -
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macro mining hulk pilot in kusomonmon named "Dont Bus", someone ganked his hulk, he still went back and forth too that same spot in his pod for like 2-3 days, reported it to CCP, ofc he wasent macro'in according to them....
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Vharl Ochre
69th Tactical Air Arm
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Posted - 2009.05.28 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: yeomen
I thought I had a witty joke about wangs AND merciless mings but I failed and now I just have an erection.
Aww... dont be so hard on yourself
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yeomen
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Posted - 2009.05.29 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vharl Ochre
Originally by: yeomen
I thought I had a witty joke about wangs AND merciless mings but I failed and now I just have an erection.
Aww... dont be so hard on yourself
Ba-dum-dum.
Here's my vote for hijacking this topic and turning it into a phallic pun thread.
...I've already forgotten what this thread was about originally.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.29 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: yeomen
Here's my vote for hijacking this topic and turning it into a phallic pun thread.
Reporting for duty *stands to attention*
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Drellia
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Posted - 2009.05.29 02:45:00 -
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1. Shoot the miner you think might be a bot. JUST ONCE. 2. It should just go into shield, Then claim to be doing a "spy check" from team Fortress 2. 3. Hope the miner takes it for what it is and doesn't give you to hard of a response.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.29 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drellia 1. Shoot the miner you think might be a bot. JUST ONCE. 2. It should just go into shield, Then claim to be doing a "spy check" from team Fortress 2. 3. Hope the miner takes it for what it is and doesn't give you to hard of a response.
Step zero would have to be "Convince concord not to WTFPWN you as you don't intend to kill the guy."
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Nephilius
Caldari Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2009.05.29 16:55:00 -
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Well how about a couple of things I have noticed...ships that are not named...for example I have seen hulks out there sitting around doing absolutely nothing, named xxxxx's Hulk. I watched one logoffski in one asteroid belt one day. Its just something that I've noticed with greater frequency lately, it may be nothing. I ate a Carebear once...couldn't quit farting rainbows for a month. |
jhon whang
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Posted - 2009.05.29 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: yeomen
Originally by: Vharl Ochre
Originally by: Diziet EmblassSma ...there is a valid char named Merciless Ming somewhere in EVE - I have however seen a few Wangs...does that count I wonder...
I'm suprised nobody tried to get a laugh out of that
I thought I had a witty joke about wangs AND merciless mings but I failed and now I just have an erection.
You people and your Whang jokes, turrible, just turrible.
*jhon whang goes to park his phobos in a deep dark cavern.
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