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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
Originally by: cosmoray If anyone thinks they have been scammed and will lose their cash I will happily purchase their shares at 10% face value (if you want to get something back).
How Generous! I would take the risk at 10% too. lol
Like I said in a previous thread... 80% face value if it will shut people up |

Ricdics
Tleilex Developments Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito #1 on my list is to seek confirmation as to whether or not he is a scammer.
The point is, he will say and do so when he is ready. Frankly I won't be ready to call scam until he stops paying dividends. YGR is renowned for causing as much drama as possible, usually over nothing. You are falling directly into his trap, aka enabling him.
Quote: He could *easily* have posted two days ago, reassuring us that things are well. He has chosen not to do that. For whatever his reason, he has chosen to maintain this situation.
You really should have expected this when investing. I have 1b invested in YGR and have every understanding of the situation. Whether he chooses to scam or not will be determined by the next move he makes ingame, not by his forum comments (this isn't true for others, but YGR has his own kettle of fish)
Quote: Yet you blame me for voicing opinions that are easily substantiated and shared by many.
No, I am simply stating we have heard your opinions 100 times now. Regardless of how much you post or how much other people post, YGR will do whatever he wants. So enabling him only potentially delays dividends and encourages YGR to make a sport of this.
Quote: That's unreal. After this is sorted, my MD presence will change. I will speak haphazardly and with ****e grammar. I will include the obligatory "go back to wow" slogan in every one of my posts, nay, in my signature. I will respond to each and every post involving more than a sentence or a word I don't understand with "tl;dr". Maybe that will appease the critics, yah? Nah, we both know that isn't true.
No-one would stop you from criticizing someone. But beating a dead horse or stating the obvious umpteen times won't help anyone. |

brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdics But beating a dead horse or stating the obvious umpteen times won't help anyone.
This. Also Lech, many other investors realise this is just a game. Not many people enjoy feeling lectured at either.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:35:00 -
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I am quite happy with my investment.
I don't invest in business plans I invest in people. I like YGR/LRN's posts, he is mostly on the mark.
I am also not a short term investor. If the dividends keep coming I am happy.
No imminent sign that this is changing, so can we drop the drama thread now.
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SonOfAGhost
Minmatar Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.21 13:05:00 -
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(Numbering in reference to the OP)
1)Is EWG a scam? I don't know, I don't really care as I don't have any isk in it. Is he going to scam now? Doesn't really matter, he's already got your isk and you're left with the contents of Pandora's box.
2)Here's some history you should have checked BEFORE investing: YGRs 1st MD post YGRs 1st 5 MD posts were ALL in scam threads. Not saying he is a scammer or not. Just that he seems to role-play that particular character a bit, with a particular interest in scams. Including this little gem in the 5th post I mentioned
Originally by: YouGotRipped I don't think scamming is to be condemned.
Anybody saying that or anything similar never gets my isk, no matter how they actually conduct themselves thereafter. Nothing personal YGR, you'll find yourself in some esteemed MD-regulars company in that regard. 
3) Perhaps if the OP had explored "the history of LRN, so that we may be able to avoid scams of this nature in the future" he wouldn't have invested either and I wouldn't be experiencing deja vu from previous threads about how to "improve the level of security pertaining to the secondary market". The OP is bordering on plagirism.
Anyone want to bet YGR's education includes more than one psychology course? -----
Originally by: kedoremos EVE's economy is **** for CPAs, Annuities, and Stock Brokers.
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 21/05/2009 13:24:00
Originally by: cosmoray I am quite happy with my investment.
I don't invest in business plans I invest in people. I like YGR/LRN's posts, he is mostly on the mark.
I am also not a short term investor. If the dividends keep coming I am happy.
No imminent sign that this is changing, so can we drop the drama thread now.
Since almost all investors voted on closing and returning isks, your investment should go back to you, not dividends. I didn't voted on closing, but the vote is to be honored and althought i dind't voted on closing, after the results I want it liquidated and repayed (Althought what I want is not going to change anything).
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EVE Knowledge
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Finedele
Marquie-X Corp Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:01:00 -
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The post has been reported.
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Since almost all investors voted on closing and returning isks, your investment should go back to you, not dividends. I didn't voted on closing, but the vote is to be honored [...]
Well, imagine that I've invested some isk as well in the project and that was never reflected in the number of shares. I'm actually the top investor and project manager which means I had direct access to info you people did not and also had a personal interest in resuming production.
You own 200 EWG Holdings shares which I will happily buy back right now if that is your wish.
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Sir Elliot
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:19:00 -
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I'd like my shares bought back, if you're offering.
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Elliot I'd like my shares bought back, if you're offering.
I'll keep you in mind. 
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 21/05/2009 14:41:31
Originally by: SonO***host History course
This is the second time you post those references. 
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Doctor Whiteface
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Posted - 2009.05.21 17:05:00 -
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Purchased 40 shares from Lecherito, transaction went very smoothly.
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SonOfAGhost
Minmatar Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.21 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped This is the second time you post those references. 
This thread is a remedial course after all  -----
Originally by: kedoremos EVE's economy is **** for CPAs, Annuities, and Stock Brokers.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2009.05.22 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: LRN Edited by: LRN on 21/05/2009 14:10:10
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Since almost all investors voted on closing and returning isks, your investment should go back to you, not dividends. I didn't voted on closing, but the vote is to be honored [...]
Imagine that I've invested some isk as well in the project and that was never reflected in the number of shares. I'm actually the top investor and project manager which means I had direct access to info you people did not and I also had a personal interest in resuming production.
You own 200 EWG Holdings shares which I will happily buy back right now if that is your wish.
Imagine? Let's imagine I own 51% in your operation, I say you start selling me freighters for half price, since we are imagining things and all. Honestly, if you really are the top investor then why the vote in the first place??? Do what you want and no one can stop you because you will always have more "votes".
You all suck, now someone lock this thread.
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.22 03:24:00 -
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i dont suck.....
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Treelox
Amarr Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.05.22 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 You all suck,
No, YOU suck.
p.s. LRN I missed your vote, but I'm game for whatever you want to do, except of course run off with my principle :P --
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Krathos Morpheus
Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.05.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: LRN Edited by: LRN on 21/05/2009 14:10:10
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Since almost all investors voted on closing and returning isks, your investment should go back to you, not dividends. I didn't voted on closing, but the vote is to be honored [...]
Imagine that I've invested some isk as well in the project and that was never reflected in the number of shares. I'm actually the top investor and project manager which means I had direct access to info you people did not and I also had a personal interest in resuming production.
You own 200 EWG Holdings shares which I will happily buy back right now if that is your wish.
Since you have not reflected your investment in shares, you have no vote there. You can do what you want with your money, but the public investment is tied to the shares and you have not them.
You issued the vote, nobody asked you for it. Why did you offered the liquidation if you were not going to do it? I suspect it was a strategy to allow your expansion and/or improve the trust of your investors thinking nobody will pick liquidation (That or to buy secretly shares at half price, the mistery continues unsolved ;). You must not offer anything you are not going to do.
That said, I was talking about what you should do with all the public money, not just mine. Anyway, I think I'll take your offer. I'll try to catch you in-game to make the transaction.
EVE Knowledge
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 22/05/2009 15:16:48
Originally by: Treelox
p.s. LRN I missed your vote, but I'm game for whatever you want to do, except of course run off with my principle :P

Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
Since you have not reflected your investment in shares, you have no vote there. You can do what you want with your money, but the public investment is tied to the shares and you have not them.
There were practical reasons for not reflecting my investment in the number of shares.
Originally by: Krathos Morpheus
You issued the vote, nobody asked you for it. Why did you offered the liquidation if you were not going to do it? I suspect it was a strategy to allow your expansion and/or improve the trust of your investors thinking nobody will pick liquidation (That or to buy secretly shares at half price, the mistery continues unsolved ;). You must not offer anything you are not going to do.
What can I say, I have a highly sensitive nature and cannot tolerate doubt and uncertainty. I have stated the purpose of the vote in the first paragraph of my post (my apologies if you missed it):
Quote:
Given the recent failure to raise additional funds and further develop my project I'm left wondering if I'm still enjoying the same level of trust the investors once placed in me by choosing to invest in the EWG Holdings IPO.
Since my investment was never reflected in the number of issued shares, those 3 options were just a means to quantify the said level of trust.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:18:00 -
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What a waste of oxygen.
Quote: Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 What a waste of oxygen.
hahah 
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.03 15:33:00 -
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So... you guys are interested in another round of funding or what? 
Black Sun Empire |

Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.06.03 17:29:00 -
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This guy seems legit.
-L
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.03 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito This guy seems legit.
-L
Im invested 
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed"
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito This guy seems legit.
-L
Indeed.
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Athre
Minmatar The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.06.03 20:00:00 -
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up for more
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Dzil
Caldari Waffles Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: LRN So... you guys are interested in another round of funding or what? 
Interested? Of course. Buying in? Only if the corp name is worth paying for a share.
------------------------------ In EVE, when someone undercuts you, they're a lemming.
When you undercut someone else, it's skill/effort/manipulation.
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 04/06/2009 00:04:03
Originally by: Athre up for more
I believe I still have some shares left.
Originally by: Dzil
Originally by: LRN So... you guys are interested in another round of funding or what? 
Interested? Of course. Buying in? Only if the corp name is worth paying for a share.
Now, now, Dzil, don't be greedy, you're already bought one share, leave some to the rest of the community, eh? 
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Athre
Minmatar The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2009.06.04 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: LRN Edited by: LRN on 04/06/2009 00:13:55
Originally by: Athre up for more
I believe I still have some shares left.
I'll check with you in game after work if you are still up or I'll evemail you.
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LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.05 18:22:00 -
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Assuming Athre fulfills her reservation, I still have 295 shares left. Is there anyone that wants those? I won't be able to transfer them until the 9th of June though. |

LRN
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.06 18:53:00 -
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