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Syringe
Oedipus Complex
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Posted - 2009.05.22 19:28:00 -
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OPTION 5 CCP removes salvage to shut salvage whiners up on the forums. --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |
Fille Balle
Dissolution Of Eternity Ethikos Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.22 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: silken mouth 1. ownership to wrecks + ninja salvaging -> consensual PVP 2. EVE = PVP focused game
1. + 2. = better EvE
quite simple
With such a name, I feel a need to make a statement:
2. Yes, you are quite right, no arguement here. HOWEVER, pvp != pewpew Killing other pc's with guns/missiles/drones/ddd is not the ONLY way to pvp in eve. eve has many forms of pvp: 1. Market pvp (buy low, sell high, before someone else does so) 2. Financial pvp (I can buy better mercs than you can, HAHAHA, you suck) 3. I think I've made my point...
Pewpew is simply fotm (or maybe not).
To everyone that's against "carebears": You should realize something. pvp is what you do to PROTECT your isk income. Not the be and end all of eve. This goes for all forms of pvp. PVE is what most people do for isk income. Those who can manage without NEVER complain on the forums.
I know some of these people, and they think most of the game is fine. They never operate in highsec, because they can't make as much isk there. Yes, that means: all you people that need to make isk via pvp in highsec are sucking the bottom of the stick!
L2P. You wanna live off of pvp, learn how to do it right, and stop trying to make other bottom feeders (that are doing much better than you btw) income worse. Besides, how is salvage agression worse than loot agression?
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Kaylan Jahlar
Minmatar Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.05.22 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dasubervixen
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri It's not broke, don't fix it.
If it works, improve it.
Salvaging doesn't need fixing or improving. It's fine just as it is.
I agree completely.
I'm a salvager by profession, and I use a Thrasher (Destroyer) with 4x Salvagers and 4x Tractor Beams to do the job, and I make millions of ISK from it. I have countless hours of experience in salvaging and I don't see how the current system is defective at all. Wrecks spawn when you kill stuff, if the wreck has items in it, they are yours (much like a can), if the wreck is empty, it's free for all on salvage rights. Wrecks stay in space for 2 hours. That works for me.
There's no need for improvement on wrecks, they are more than fine as it is.
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OC 2av2
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Posted - 2009.05.22 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Nissa
Quote: 5. Stronger Salvaging Ninjas with good ships and/or cool drones attempt to salvage rest wrecks (Smaller predators occupying body remains and eat it)
You fail here. They are not stronger. They are just invulnerable because of concord.
No, IÆm not.
By ôstrongerö I meant against another salvaging ninjas who have worse ships and worse modules. By ôstrongerö I meant stronger in that particular moment in the field.
If the Lion back û jackal will forced pull back, because Lion can kill him.
Oh yes, now I understood what you talking aboutà. Heheheà
Any way IÆm not felt, because I did not describe current situation about salvaging as you assumed (I guess), but I described order of things in the Nature and if some things are conflicting between description and salvaging reality at this moment, then (as I think, as I suggesting) it must be fixed according description.
It means on salvaging field must win who has better ship, better modules, better skills and better experience. Honestly, I donÆt see where can be useful CONCORD in this situation, because who are taking concord role in a wild jungle?
P.S. I donÆt want to say:öNo, IÆm not felt û you didö I think, you just accidentally did not get what IÆm talking about. DonÆt worry it happens with everyoneà some timesà
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.05.22 23:17:00 -
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What a clueless moron.
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Lear Hepburn
Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.05.23 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar There's no need for improvement on wrecks, they are more than fine as it is.
But you can't tractor them and you can't blow them up wihout being Concorded. How is that fine?
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OC 2av2
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Posted - 2009.05.23 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Nissa What a clueless moron.
It is very pitiful to insult people just because those people have an opinion and suggestion how effectively solve current situation related with salvaging.
I suggest you back on the topic and create your own Idea, which could be good in this situation and then we can discuss about it.
Anyway, Ms Kel Nissa you cannot forbid people to create Ideas, find solutions and share it with community in this forum, even if you decide to keep insulting them because of that. It is very sad.
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Poena Loveless
Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.23 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Poena Loveless on 23/05/2009 22:32:25
Originally by: Fille Balle pvp is what you do to PROTECT your isk income. Not the be and end all of eve.
fixed.
And as for my 2 cents on the subject. NPC wrecks should be just like player wreck's: 'Owned' by the owner of the creating ship.
edit: and of course, with this, fix the tractor beam thing to not care about owners. would be very interesting to see tractor beams used in pvp :P
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.05.23 23:09:00 -
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Translation: The response of your message was already written before you posted your message within the same thread.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.05.24 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: OC 2av2 Predator -> smaller predators -> birds -> rats -> bugs = no body remains.
There is no food chain to high sec salvaging. You can't fight over salvage in high sec.
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