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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C. Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:23:00 -
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Seriously. Sometimes, the best thing to do is have a random moment of compassion. |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:24:00 -
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No. |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:25:00 -
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Never Free-aKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:25:00 -
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Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. |
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:26:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though.
You better not be trolling us 
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illirdor
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:28:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though.
why not 20% ?? not a troll...
Come to Amamake... The universal answer to everything... |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:29:00 -
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Greyscale doesn't troll, unless hes nerfing anomalies again. Free-aKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |

Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:30:00 -
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Exactly...20% is always the best of better!  |
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CCP Greyscale
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:31:00 -
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illirdor wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. why not 20% ?? not a troll...
Because 15% felt like a nice compromise between "make them obviously better than RRT" and "don't make them so powerful they significantly change the balance of the game", pretty much. |
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Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:32:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though.
OMGAWD!
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:33:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Greyscale doesn't troll, unless hes nerfing anomalies again.
In any other topic I'd believe him, but T2 plates getting buffed and being usefull, c'mon. There is gullible and then there is believing that at face value.
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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C. Dark Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:33:00 -
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Thank you CCP Greyscale. Sometimes, the best thing to do is have a random moment of compassion. |

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:35:00 -
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Are you not pushing a bunch of module changes at once so there is enough time to scrutinize the brand new modules? Why cant these be shoved in? |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:49:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. You better not be trolling us 
The thing he forgot to mention is that the meta 4 tungsten plates also got a boost ( 30%.... j/k ) CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:57:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:illirdor wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. why not 20% ?? not a troll... Because 15% felt like a nice compromise between "make them obviously better than RRT" and "don't make them so powerful they significantly change the balance of the game", pretty much.
That and the extensive "play-testing" right.
I wonder how many values CCP pulls out of their ass and sticks with. |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:59:00 -
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Iamien wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:illirdor wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. why not 20% ?? not a troll... Because 15% felt like a nice compromise between "make them obviously better than RRT" and "don't make them so powerful they significantly change the balance of the game", pretty much. That and the extensive "play-testing" right. I wonder how many values CCP pulls out of their ass and sticks with.
86% of them.
Free-aKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |

Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:05:00 -
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Iamien wrote:
That and the extensive "play-testing" right.
I wonder how many values CCP pulls out of their ass and sticks with.
TBH, that seems like a fair value, and... "Stop lookig a gift horse in the mouth"
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Plato Idari
TK Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:18:00 -
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I'd like to suggest that you also reduce the mass addition to only a little bit more than meta4, for those of us armor tankers (gallente) who care about speed.
At the moment T2 plates are 36% heavier than meta4 plates. I think it would be more reasonable if they were between 10% and 20% heavier. |

Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:19:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:illirdor wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. why not 20% ?? not a troll... Because 15% felt like a nice compromise between "make them obviously better than RRT" and "don't make them so powerful they significantly change the balance of the game", pretty much.
Why the hell only after the summer? Why not change those few stats, ship the new plates with Inferno and if it doesn't work out just iterate on them after the summer. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-a Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |

Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:20:00 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:Iamien wrote:
That and the extensive "play-testing" right.
I wonder how many values CCP pulls out of their ass and sticks with.
TBH, that seems like a fair value, and... "Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n22Ms0s_GqE&feature=plcp |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
892
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:20:00 -
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armor invuln hardeners, now t2 plates, shield rigs getting nerfed , slave set still good as ever
good time to be Amarr |

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:24:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though.
Because there's not quite enough buffer-tanking in game already?  
Good god CCP, in F&I Ytterbium is talking about how to rebalance the game away from HP buffers and to make active tanks more useful. Then you come in with an idea that has exactly the opposite effect. 
Not to mention that the biggest beneficiaries of this will be BS, even though BS are already massively skewed towards armour buffers anyway.
There's plenty of T2 modules that offer no advantage over best-named, except for being manufacturable. If you really want to make T2 plates more useful without affecting the metagame, then don't add HP to T2 plates, remove HP from T1 and named plates instead. |

Iamien
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:37:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:illirdor wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though. why not 20% ?? not a troll... Because 15% felt like a nice compromise between "make them obviously better than RRT" and "don't make them so powerful they significantly change the balance of the game", pretty much. Why the hell only after the summer? Why not change those few stats, ship the new plates with Inferno and if it doesn't work out just iterate on them after the summer.
ATX. buffing tanks so much before a tournament could possible wreck havoc. |

Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:57:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:armor invuln hardeners, now t2 plates, shield rigs getting nerfed , slave set still good as ever
good time to be Amarr where is armor invul??
where is shield rig get nerfed??? |

craidie
Tolerance Training Academy En Garde
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:07:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Added ~15% HP to them all this morning, probably won't be on TQ until after the summer though.
While you're at it how about nano, CPR, SPR, I-stab, SeBo, cap flux coils, micro aux, MLU.... and many other modules that have better meta 4 counter part than t2. |

Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
995
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:10:00 -
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craidie wrote:While you're at it how about nano, CPR, SPR, I-stab, SeBo, cap flux coils, micro aux, MLU.... and many other modules that have better meta 4 counter part than t2.
80% of the modules you listed are hardly used anyway... and the people who use them, are bad.
Explains En Garde though. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Testerxnot Sheepherder
Treasures Collectors Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:19:00 -
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So... 15% buff this morning, yet we won't get the change until after the summer?
D+,j+a vu |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
560
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:21:00 -
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Testerxnot Sheepherder wrote:So... 15% buff this morning, yet we won't get the change until after the summer?
D+,j+a vu
Seems someone didn't read the last part, since they are already trying to manipulate the 1600mm T2 plate in Jita.
Free-aKugutsumen from censorship and end the bitterness. |

Acquisitioneer
Phantom Division
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:30:00 -
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Will CCP ever make the T2 MWD worth fitting? |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:11:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote: Not to mention that the biggest beneficiaries of this will be BS, even though BS are already massively skewed towards armour buffers anyway.
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Oh dear. You are quite wrong, it will benefit t3s and t2 cruisers/bcs the most (its in the resists). Yes even with the tighter fitting. Doubly so once you consider the bs are hurt by the mass more (hello bombers)
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