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Lord Windu
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Windu on 11/05/2009 08:05:44
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Michael Hoare 1) CCP will never put a stop to scamming because I believe the majority of the scam artist are CCP-alts
Wait...you're trying to say that the people who create and run the game need to scam for in-game currency? Man, why didn't I think of that?
They gotta fund their Polaris frigates somehow I suppose
edit: 2nd Page Snipe \/
☺ A Kirra Liu Presentation. Will give cyber for GTC ☺ |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Michael Hoare 1) CCP will never put a stop to scamming because I believe the majority of the scam artist are CCP-alts
Wait...you're trying to say that the people who create and run the game need to scam for in-game currency? Man, why didn't I think of that?
Woah! Thats mind blowing!
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Lexa Hellfury
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu edit: 2nd Page Snipe \/
Doesn't count if it's edited brosef.
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Lord Windu
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Lord Windu edit: 2nd Page Snipe \/
Doesn't count if it's edited brosef.
☺ A Kirra Liu Presentation. Will give cyber for GTC ☺ |
Lexa Hellfury
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:24:00 -
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:26:00 -
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Welcome to C&P.. The /b/ of EVE..
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Lexa Hellfury
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Welcome to C&P.. The /b/ of EVE..
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Lord Windu
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.11 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin Welcome to C&P.. The /b/ of EVE..
/b/ has been down for a while now, thus I am here ☺ A Kirra Liu Presentation. Will give cyber for GTC ☺ |
Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:26:00 -
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You're all over complicating this. The way to not get scammed has just one step:
1) Don't be an idiot.
- Read My Blog
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Jonny 101
Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.11 10:28:00 -
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The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen condem these spam tactics and we refute any and all accusations of CCP involvment in our investment group, these are false rumours which have been refuted numerous times by official CCP personell and no charges of either false book keeping or controlling interests in CCP and [NOSCM] at the same time have ever been proven.
Any and all permanent bans lifted from [NOSM] board members were lifted after due process and due to lack of evidence, our competition has a history of trying to smear our good name and I dare say our innocence is beyond question at this point in time.
Regards Kublai Chairman of The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
A Democratic and free Nigeria - A better more profitable tomorrow!
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Dzil
Caldari Second Quadrant Ice Division
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Posted - 2009.05.11 14:27:00 -
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Actually if you don't block any of them, the problem works itself out nicely. The contracts appear and disappear faster than you can even think to click on them and find them interesting, and therefore local returns to being nothing but a silly intel channel.
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Bullageddon
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare I have discovered a very effective tactic for dealing with scammers. . . .every time they spam one of their bogus contracts in local, simple paste 30-50 lines of single characters! * * * * etc. . .
This will not only remove the offending contract from view on the public channel, but is highly frustrating to the would be scammer as it prevents his potenial victims from even seeing his bait!
Based on the response I have recieved after only a few minutes of trying this tactic in Jita I can say two things:
1) CCP will never put a stop to scamming because I believe the majority of the scam artist are CCP-alts
2) These tactics work incredibly well when you can get two or even three people working in concert
Rise up citizen! Strike back at the people who are ruining this game! Fight them with every means at your disposal!
Scamming is allowed.
Spamming isn't.
I love petitioning white knights. === This Space For Lease or Sale. |
Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:32:00 -
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petition me all you want. . . just make sure you spell my name correctly.
Here are the facts folks. . .people who get scammed tend to quit the game. Thats less money for CCP, fewer players for our game and and a poorer playing enviroment for all concerned.
Taking this phenomena to it's highly illogical conclusion would see our universe populated by only the handful of asshat scammers trying their lame tricks on each other, as all the 'REAL' Players leave for whatever the new big MMORPG is.
I dare CCP to stop me! I may spam in local channel, and thats annoying. . .but some of these scam artists are making four or five posts for every one of mine! Ban me, Gag me, kick me out of the game. . .but if you get me, then you MUST get them too!
During this afternoons session of messing with the scammers in Jita, there were no less than four other people posting anti-scam spam. . .for at least one hour no-one got scammed in Jita.
I'd take a ban for that.
M.Hoare
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Magic Dragonrider Tao Ball Name of opponent is titilating to all. Phoney bags of gold rust in a cave. Capitalise on the known unknowns.
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Bullageddon
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare petition me all you want. . . just make sure you spell my name correctly.
Here are the facts folks. . .people who get scammed tend to quit the game. Thats less money for CCP, fewer players for our game and and a poorer playing enviroment for all concerned.
Taking this phenomena to it's highly illogical conclusion would see our universe populated by only the handful of asshat scammers trying their lame tricks on each other, as all the 'REAL' Players leave for whatever the new big MMORPG is.
I dare CCP to stop me! I may spam in local channel, and thats annoying. . .but some of these scam artists are making four or five posts for every one of mine! Ban me, Gag me, kick me out of the game. . .but if you get me, then you MUST get them too!
During this afternoons session of messing with the scammers in Jita, there were no less than four other people posting anti-scam spam. . .for at least one hour no-one got scammed in Jita.
I'd take a ban for that.
M.Hoare
lol... people who get scammed tend to learn from their mistakes and not do it again.
Scams go from 100mill-2bill in dixie, (most) new people don't have that money.
Part of that money goes to fund plex cards, so either way CCP gets paid. Hence, they don't care.
break the rules though, i'll enjoy seeing whiners muted/booted. === This Space For Lease or Sale. |
Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.12 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/05/2009 00:09:46
Originally by: Michael Hoare 1) CCP will never put a stop to scamming because I believe the majority of the scam artist are CCP-alts
What the ...?
Well, that's taking tinfoil hattery to a new level.
"We're going to structure the rules so that we can cheat players of ISK and (by your theory) ourselves of revenue by running scams! It's completely legal within the terms of our game-- and it's legal because WE want to do it more than any of our customers do!
"It has nothing whatever to do with our design philosophy or setting; we just like being mean, so we're going to get you to pay us RL money for your subscription and then trick you out of in-game money so you quit!
"This is the greatest business plan EVER!"
Not freaking likely.
Many of us, myself included, got involved in this game because we liked the cutthroat environment. We didn't come here expecting rose gardens and chocolates, and certainly nothing so pedestrian as fair play; we came here after hearing stories of bank scams, corporate spies, and the Guiding Hand Social Club.
Even if we don't engage in these activities (I've never had the heart), we're here because we want an environment of tense competition, chaos, and paranoia. We didn't come here to play WoW in space; we came here because Eve is freaking unique. We wanted a loosely-controlled universe where cunning and insight are rewarded, and that's what Eve delivers.
If you can't deal with that, and with the fact that some people get a vast kick and a good cash flow out of making fools of other players, I'm afraid I have to say, "GB2WoW."
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Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2009.05.12 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Hoare on 12/05/2009 01:05:14 Actually. . .CCP Scammer-alts do make a lot of sense in a perverse and twisted fashion.
You see, CCP is unable to do anything about chinese slave-labor being used to manufacture and sell ISK in their game. . .they simply do not have the resources to fight the ISK-Sellers. . .
So they allow scammers. . .
As people have so clearly and repeatedly pointed out, only idiots get scammed. . .i.e. only new players with lots of money get scammed. . e.g. only ISK-Buyers get scammed. . .
So perhaps CCP allows scamming as a back-door inflation control.
Does not matter to me, I hate thieves and s****of all stripes. So whether CCP merely allows scamming or tacitly approves of it matters nothing to me, I will fight!
(what the hell is S****? I typed scum. . . four letters meaning 'fungus')
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Cyrdax
Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 02:51:00 -
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the problem with your logic, michael, is that you are an idiot
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.05.12 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrdax the problem with your logic, michael, is that you are an idiot
That isn't his only problem, but it is his biggest.. Being horrendously ugly doesn't help.
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Venetian Tar
Violation of Freedom Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Cyrdax the problem with your logic, michael, is that you are an idiot
That isn't his only problem, but it is his biggest.. Being horrendously ugly doesn't help.
I'd say his smallest thing is his biggest problem.
Last I heard (From CHED) Lana doesn't like small things ~
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Cyrdax
Altruism. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 03:21:00 -
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/me straightens his armani jacket and tightens up his tie
check out my new business card hot off the presses
Quote: Requiescat Requiescat Inc not an idiot
--- tv where the horn go, boy can you top that? |
PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:39:00 -
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To the OP
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Lian Xander
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:27:00 -
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Wow Michael, you have it all figured out ... CCP creates an online game and charges monthly for it - but wait .... they don't just want your real-life $15 (usd) a month, NO .... they want all your iskies too, and they're going to scam it out of you by creating scam-alts!!!
But what's this ..... it's a vigilante come to save us from the evils that is CCP!!!
It's Super Hoare! \/ Yay!!! Thank you for your endless spamming of doom in Jita-local, and creating even more lag than is absolutely necessary, but it's all in the name of justice!! So thank you, oh purveyor of unwanted spam!!!
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VoiceInTheDesert
Zebra Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:05:00 -
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OP fails to understand that most of the non-stop posting scammers are macros and will not be annoyed or deterred while you waste your time hitting the * key.
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SciFi Jon
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: SciFi Jon on 12/05/2009 20:32:00 It's brilliant we should have all thought of it earlier. They spent all that money hiring accountants to help them design the in game economy. The consultants told them to scam people.
Originally by: Cyrdax the problem with your logic, michael, is that you are an idiot
^ This!
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The Grapist
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:33:00 -
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all that stupid pasting does is make it harder for me to block the spammers.
So, I block dumbasses like you that spam that crap as well.
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Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:55:00 -
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Posting to confirm that spamming useless white-space is an effective counter to spamming of slightly less useless contracts! GREAT LOGIC! CLEAR SKIES 2 IS OUT! PLEASE SEED! |
Hooded Person
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare petition me all you want. . . just make sure you spell my name correctly.
Here are the facts folks. . .people who get scammed tend to quit the game. Thats less money for CCP, fewer players for our game and and a poorer playing enviroment for all concerned.
Taking this phenomena to it's highly illogical conclusion would see our universe populated by only the handful of asshat scammers trying their lame tricks on each other, as all the 'REAL' Players leave for whatever the new big MMORPG is.
I dare CCP to stop me! I may spam in local channel, and thats annoying. . .but some of these scam artists are making four or five posts for every one of mine! Ban me, Gag me, kick me out of the game. . .but if you get me, then you MUST get them too!
During this afternoons session of messing with the scammers in Jita, there were no less than four other people posting anti-scam spam. . .for at least one hour no-one got scammed in Jita.
I'd take a ban for that.
M.Hoare
Confirming you're an idiot a f***ing idiot too stupid to live dumber than a rock.
Originally by: RedSplat
PvP flagging would solve this issue.
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