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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:34:00 -
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In this blog, Helicity reports "over 3000 kills".
If you go to EVE-Kill, the frontpage does indeed list over 3000 kills.
However if you actually go into the killboard and count everything up, you see the number of destroyed mining vessels is closer to only 1000. (As of 1.5 days ago)
So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
99
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:39:00 -
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Are capsules counted as kills? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:46:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:Are capsules counted as kills?
I'm not reading anything in the literature about capsules being counted as kills.
Kills counted are mining barges, exhumers, and the cap ships - orcas and rorquals.
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Ezekiel Hawke
Brothers At Arms Hades.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:55:00 -
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Do you ever stop whining? |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2196
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:56:00 -
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I see that I have already blocked the OP. That saves me some time. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:13:00 -
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morons wrote:Unable to answer.
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Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
86
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:45:00 -
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You seem a bit obsessed, Staffuer. Might I recommend taking a nice long walk (off a cliff) or some mind altering substances that make you realize that you are truly insignificant as a part of the universe? Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:46:00 -
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Perhaps he has to pad the numbers to maintain goon-pet status? |
Calfis
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
94
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:59:00 -
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Carebears know how to read killboards? |
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:06:00 -
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Helicity and the goon-pet carebear brigade are supposedly capable, why not the rest? |
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Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
86
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:07:00 -
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Calfis wrote:Carebears know how to read killboards?
If the "Hulkageddon Made Me Quit" threadnought is any indication of their competence in understanding KB's, I'd say no. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:13:00 -
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So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:20:00 -
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INB4 more red herrings |
Makkz
Lamorei Prosapia Vexillum
1
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:38:00 -
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So you come to the forums for truth.
hahahahahohohohahahhahaha
seriously?
That is why you fail. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
230
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:40:00 -
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Calfis wrote:Carebears know how to read killboards? Killboards are for carebears, aren't they? Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
lanyaie
282
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:16:00 -
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And what number of the #3000 people that lost a ship is your main sir? I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
454
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:18:00 -
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Simple, the killboard tool Mirotrem built for hulkageddon scrapes killmails from EVE-kill, and only accepts mails that are API verified, and meet the criteria of the contest.
But I appreciate your pathetic attempt to make me look bad you little toolie GÖÑ
But if you want to cry, please do continue, your idiocy is amusing to me! |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:19:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:And what number of the #3000 people that lost a ship is your main sir?
So can you explain why Helicity reports 3k kills, but the KB confirms only about 1000? |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
454
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:19:00 -
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oh and btw, sir genius... you're adding up the numbers of this month, EVE kill has pagination. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
454
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:21:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:lanyaie wrote:And what number of the #3000 people that lost a ship is your main sir? So can you explain why Helicity reports 3k kills, but the KB confirms only about 1000?
the front page of eve-kill lists their total, which is HIGHER than mine (b/c we only accept api verified kills)
you can see it here: http://prntscr.com/90rx4 |
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Xavier Kaine
Valeth Imperial Command Hades.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:39:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:lanyaie wrote:And what number of the #3000 people that lost a ship is your main sir? So can you explain why Helicity reports 3k kills, but the KB confirms only about 1000? the front page of eve-kill lists their total, which is HIGHER than mine (b/c we only accept api verified kills) you can see it here: http://prntscr.com/90rx4
:3 |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 22:51:00 -
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Those are some pretty bad attempts to cover your arse, Helicity. I have to say I'm really disappointed - I expected more from you than this clumsy obfuscation.
None of what you said actually addresses, clarifies, or refutes what I said.
Helicity Boson wrote:Simple, the killboard tool Mirotrem built for hulkageddon scrapes killmails from EVE-kill, and only accepts mails that are API verified, and meet the criteria of the contest.
But I appreciate your pathetic attempt to make me look bad you little toolie GÖÑ
But if you want to cry, please do continue, your idiocy is amusing to me!
Your API explanation doesn't actually explain anything.
Let me take you through this... slowly.
This page: http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/ reports 3584 kills.
This page: http://eve-kill.net/ reports 3992.
The contention isn't the difference between those two numbers. I could care less about http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/, because I wasn't referring to that page at all. But nice try to obfuscate. Let's get right back down to the actual point at hand, shall we? Yes we shall:
The contention is that when you load the EVE-Kill (http://eve-kill.net/) Hulkageddon board, the internal numbers only account for about 1/3 of what the front page (the front page, you know, where you get your numbers from).
I'm asking why such a drastic difference between the kills you're reporting and the actual numbers of kills. Nevermind Goonswarm, I'm talking to you.
the front page of eve-kill lists their total, which is HIGHER than mine (b/c we only accept api verified kills)[/quote]
Let me take you by the hand and walk you through this very slowly Helicity.
Yesterday (May 7, 2012), you reported 3200 kills. The frontpage did indeed display 3200ish kills... yesterday. Today is May 8th, 2012. Can you see why your comment there doesn't make much sense now? Either way, it's irrelevant: Going into the board on EVEKill loads completely different numbers than what's listed on the front page. The numbers are being padded. If it's "only displaying API verified kills", then your number should be... around 1500 I'm afraid. Not 3000.
Helicity Boson wrote:oh and btw, sir genius... you're adding up the numbers of this month, EVE kill has pagination.
Yes. I am adding up the numbers for this month (the month of March). Hulkageddon started April 28th. There are 30 days in April. Are you really trying to imply that 2 days accounts for the nearly 2.5k difference in the numbers being reported? That's a very weak defense. But I guess besides calling people names and posturing, you don't really have much else to you.
If you spent half the effort actually reporting the numbers accurately as you spent in trying to obfuscate your way out of an embarrassing situation, you wouldn't have been in said embarrassing situation in the first place.
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2207
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:05:00 -
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Hey everybody. Stop what you are doing because an alt is posting. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:09:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Invalid criticism.
So you can't explain it, either?
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:09:00 -
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This is going to be known as the Hulkageddon Scandal. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2207
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:11:00 -
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I can +1 too (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:19:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I can +1 too
So what you're telling me is that you can't explain the drastic difference in numbers?
Alright then. |
Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
46
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:20:00 -
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The whining of "waaah you haven't slaughtered nearly as many ******** carebears as you say you have" is ******* hilarious. Are you this butthurt that your hulk keeps getting ganked? It's reeeeeeeally not that hard to not get ganked. Stop being a ******. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:23:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:Unoriginal troll.
So you're also unable to explain the difference in numbers? |
Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
46
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:25:00 -
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Annoyingniggerfaggot wrote:?
No. I don't care. I have better things to do than go on the forums and whine about carebears getting curbstomped. |
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:30:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:InappropriateLanguageCleaned wrote:? No. I don't care. I have better things to do than go on the forums and whine about carebears getting curbstomped.
You just whine about people posting about it, instead? |
Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
46
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:33:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote: I wish cancer up you and yours.
Actually saw it on Helictiy's Twitter, and I love nothing more than cursing out morons (which you are, in case you missed the implication, moron). |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:35:00 -
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Algia Knightstorm wrote:Helicity is venting about you on twitter. She's real mad.
Thank you for that information, kind sir! o/
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Sabuulia Graal
DeSoto Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.05.09 00:00:00 -
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If you had actually been following it just a tiny bit closer, and done any real research, you would have found that the killboard itself has not updated for days - just the front page.
But hey, its always so much easier to simply go "so and so is lying, and I can prove it by throwing the toys out of the cot."
BTW Helicity - great job on Hulkageddon :)
Sab |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
352
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Posted - 2012.05.09 00:54:00 -
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Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
39
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Posted - 2012.05.09 00:59:00 -
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Five Thirty wrote:Helicity and the goon-pet carebear brigade are supposedly capable, why not the rest?
The Shadow Cartel are Goon pets? Naw...... |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:03:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?).
I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
352
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:04:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :)
Your questions imply that you are assuming that this whole numbers thing matters. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:12:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) Your questions imply that you are assuming that this whole numbers thing matters.
Questions indicate curiosity.
Try not to read too deeply into it. After all, "it doesn't matter". ;)
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
39
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:18:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote: "it doesn't matter"
This pretty much sums up your thread. But please do continue *pops popcorn* |
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Sabuulia Graal
DeSoto Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:50:00 -
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Funny that you are just asking questions, but when I give you the answer you choose to avoid the response.
Try using the magical "Google cache" - might shed some light on it for you, but who knows really based on your previous posting form.
Sab |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
352
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Posted - 2012.05.09 03:08:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) Your questions imply that you are assuming that this whole numbers thing matters. Questions indicate curiosity. Try not to read too deeply into it. After all, "it doesn't matter". ;)
I will read deeply into it whether you like it or not. It's in my nature. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
456
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Posted - 2012.05.09 05:12:00 -
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Basically what we have here is a hilarious moron who is so ~mad~ that someone is more popular than him, that he will go to any embarrasing length to try and make a scandal happen.
Except it won't, because people know me, because I've run this event many times before, and mostly because this is the most transparent one yet, every kill is API verified and can be found on eve-kill.
So I don't really know why AKJon (because that's probably who it really is) hates me so much, but I will be content to let it fester in your heart boy.
There is nothing you can ever do to me, feel free to keep trying though. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
59
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Posted - 2012.05.09 06:43:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:This page: http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/ reports 3584 kills. This page: http://eve-kill.net/ reports 3992. The contention isn't the difference between those two numbers. I could care less about http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/, because I wasn't referring to that page at all. But nice try to obfuscate. Let's get right back down to the actual point at hand, shall we? Yes we shall: The contention is that when you load the EVE-Kill (http://eve-kill.net/) Hulkageddon board, the internal numbers only account for about 1/3 of what the front page (the front page, you know, where you get your numbers from). I'm asking why such a drastic difference between the kills you're reporting and the actual numbers of kills. Nevermind Goonswarm, I'm talking to you.
If you bothered to have a look at the kills, you will note that internally eve-kill shows 11 pages of kills for hulkageddon.
The 11 pages have not changed since the month rolled over, and all 11 pages of kills @ 100 kills per page refer to kills made in april. ie the query supporting the detail page does not handle the monthly boundary.
ie eve-kill very clearly documents 1000+ kills in the first two days, and its more than reasonable to believe in the 9 or so days hence, another 2500 has happened. That is what you'd expect considering weekdays and the ongoing nature of the campaign (ie the kill rate steadily drops off as victims become harder to find, server pops vary and players start dealing with the sec consequences etc).
But of course its a ****ing conspiracy.
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Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
456
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Posted - 2012.05.09 06:52:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:This page: http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/ reports 3584 kills. This page: http://eve-kill.net/ reports 3992. The contention isn't the difference between those two numbers. I could care less about http://hulkageddon.goonswarm.com/, because I wasn't referring to that page at all. But nice try to obfuscate. Let's get right back down to the actual point at hand, shall we? Yes we shall: The contention is that when you load the EVE-Kill (http://eve-kill.net/) Hulkageddon board, the internal numbers only account for about 1/3 of what the front page (the front page, you know, where you get your numbers from). I'm asking why such a drastic difference between the kills you're reporting and the actual numbers of kills. Nevermind Goonswarm, I'm talking to you. If you bothered to have a look at the kills, you will note that internally eve-kill shows 11 pages of kills for hulkageddon. The 11 pages have not changed since the month rolled over, and all 11 pages of kills @ 100 kills per page refer to kills made in april. ie the query supporting the detail page does not handle the monthly boundary. ie eve-kill very clearly documents 1000+ kills in the first two days, and its more than reasonable to believe in the 9 or so days hence, another 3000 has happened. That is what you'd expect considering weekdays and the ongoing nature of the campaign (ie the kill rate steadily drops off as victims become harder to find, server pops vary and players start dealing with the sec consequences etc). But of course its a ****ing conspiracy.
Incidentally, the last news from eve-kill is that they are working on a better details page \o/ |
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2012.05.09 10:25:00 -
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Hulkageddon over-played? Hulkageddon over-hyped? Hulkageddon underwhelming?
How could this possibly be?
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1142
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Posted - 2012.05.09 10:41:00 -
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Sycho Pathic wrote:Hulkageddon over-played? Hulkageddon over-hyped? Hulkageddon underwhelming?
How could this possibly be?
No, the facts are pretty transparent No, in fact most people didn't know when it started, based on the previous stat No, based on this thread and all the other threadnaughts of whine and tears.
It's not, but then, your need to post and say otherwise is probably the only knowledge we gained from your post. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
uwai223
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
44
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Posted - 2012.05.09 11:13:00 -
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Hey am I too late to shitpost in this thread? We are required by our constitution to let the voters think they have a choice. That's democracy! |
tide Alduin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.09 11:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:In this blog, Helicity reports "over 3000 kills". If you go to EVE-Kill, the frontpage does indeed list over 3000 kills. However if you actually go into the killboard and count everything up, you see the number of destroyed mining vessels is closer to only 1000. (As of 1.5 days ago) So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain.
They lie, and lack to provide an intelligent answer because they are probably the biggest noob corp in Eve. By the way any dissagreement with them automatically makes you an idiot, didn't you know? They will never give an actual answer or accept a challenge because they know they will get their asses handed to them in actual pvp.
As long as they stick to attacking rookie ships they might get the occasional kill, anything larger and they run. Their only way of responding is "bear" or tears, her blog and self boasting is quite amusing though, i'd recommend checking it out for a good laugh on her self proclaimed "successful" blog and her kills. She's out there screaming "look at me", yet Challenge her and she'll decline any pvp, hell she can't even prove her skills. But hey since no one else sees her as some kind of great legend, at least she can keep tweeting and posting about it herself.
She is indeed too lazy, or lacks the intellect to actually reply with a proper response. Yes, she is that stupid, and yes you MUST take her word, because we all know she's the best, and everyone else is just bears and complete idiots. She doesn't have anything to post because there are no actual kills on there. Just barges. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
666
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Posted - 2012.05.09 12:07:00 -
[50] - Quote
Posting in a thread full of lulz and tinfoil.
/eats popcorn
The real question is whether or not it is gay if you sleep with a hermaphrodite. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
59
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Posted - 2012.05.09 12:09:00 -
[51] - Quote
tide Alduin wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:In this blog, Helicity reports "over 3000 kills". If you go to EVE-Kill, the frontpage does indeed list over 3000 kills. However if you actually go into the killboard and count everything up, you see the number of destroyed mining vessels is closer to only 1000. (As of 1.5 days ago) So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain. They lie, and lack to provide an intelligent answer because they are probably the biggest noob corp in Eve. By the way any dissagreement with them automatically makes you an idiot, didn't you know? They will never give an actual answer or accept a challenge because they know they will get their asses handed to them in actual pvp.
Was answered. On this page. didn't take a lot of intelligence, its obvious when you see the timestamps on the kills.
Quote:
She is indeed too lazy, or lacks the intellect to actually reply with a proper response. Yes, she is that stupid, and yes you MUST take her word, because we all know she's the best, and everyone else is just bears and complete idiots. She doesn't have anything to post because there are no actual kills on there. Just barges.
Nope - it just required a bear like me to be lame enough to go check the facts. Helicity did not have to do that, as they had an extractor already. The OP simply refused to take Helicity's word. whatever. if you don't believe 4000 valid targets have popped, I suggest you go right ahead to a 0.7 ice belt in your untanked afk mack.
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1142
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Posted - 2012.05.09 12:10:00 -
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tide Alduin wrote:They lie You'll struggle to demonstrate this.
Quote:and lack to provide an intelligent answer The reason has been given about three times now. So, there's that.
Quote:By the way any dissagreement with them automatically makes you an idiot, didn't you know? Usually, not being able to interpret answers given to you repeatedly is a much more marked sign.
Quote:they know they will get their asses handed to them in actual pvp.
As long as they stick to attacking rookie ships they might get the occasional kill, anything larger and they run. Their only way of responding is "bear" or tears, her blog and self boasting is quite amusing though, i'd recommend checking it out for a good laugh on her self proclaimed "successful" blog and her kills. She's out there screaming "look at me", yet Challenge her and she'll decline any pvp, hell she can't even prove her skills Not sure how to respond to one of the dumbest things I have seen posted.
First, he has a 30:1 kill:death ratio, and the primary targets are Battlecruisers, Battleships and T2 cruisers. Care to epeen yours? No? Of course not, NPC alt.
In fact, to dis-prove your inane "stick to attacking rookie ships" hyperbole, I actually calculated it.
1.4% of his kills are rookie ships. So, the "occasional kill, anything larger" actually equates to 98.6%
So, in your world, 98.6% is the .... minority case? Oh boy, I wasted my time on math it seems. I don't understand it at all.
Quote:She is indeed too lazy, or lacks the intellect to actually reply with a proper response Just gonna say it again to round up, the answer to your question is in the thread above.
It probably won't clear up your confusion, as I seriously doubt you know how these things work. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
ElextriX
Snuff Box
2
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Posted - 2012.05.09 12:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:In this blog, Helicity reports "over 3000 kills". If you go to EVE-Kill, the frontpage does indeed list over 3000 kills. However if you actually go into the killboard and count everything up, you see the number of destroyed mining vessels is closer to only 1000. (As of 1.5 days ago) So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain.
My god your boring
Every single post I've seen you post has been bitter and a complaint of some sort with some complex than your smarter than everybody else. Do us all a favour and STFU.
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.09 14:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
I don't think I've ever seen so many kneejerk reactions in one place.
Helicity Boson wrote:Basically what we have here is a hilarious moron who is so ~mad~ that someone is more popular than him, that he will go to any embarrasing length to try and make a scandal happen.
"Popular"? ....Are you still in highschool? Wow I don't even...
I assure you, you can keep your popularity. I don't want to be popular.
.....Which is why I post on an anonymous alt.....
Helicity Boson wrote:Except it won't, because people know me, because I've run this event many times before, and mostly because this is the most transparent one yet, every kill is API verified and can be found on eve-kill.
Heh, well... not every kill...
Helicity Boson wrote:There is nothing you can ever do to me, feel free to keep trying though.
Well I sure seem to have upset you. You seem genuinely troubled that I, this anonymous forum alt, may have criticized you.
Generally speaking... people who are scared of criticism... or have deep secrets they fear exposure of... or are insecure and have a deep need to be accepted and validated... will react in a hostile, insulting manner to any criticisms, real or imagined..
Jacob Staffuer wrote:So what's the deal? Is Helicity lazy, stupid, or just a liar? Did I miss something? If so, explain.
Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. Turning this into an epeen thing makes you guys look bad, not me, because I'm not here to be "the enemy". I have no trouble admitting that I missed dates on the individual kills, which adequately explains why the front page displays a different number than the internal board. Thank to Tauranon for clearing that up for me.
To everyone else: I hope one day you resolve the inner hurt that mires your frontal cortices. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6509
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:07:00 -
[55] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. They did explain it. Multiple times.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:37:00 -
[56] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. They did explain it. Multiple times.
Yes and I acknowledged it. Try reading my post fully before you respond. You'll look much less stupid. |
Rond Dorlezahn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:53:00 -
[57] - Quote
Calfis wrote:Carebears know how to read killboards?
Jacob Staffuer doesn't. Trust me. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6511
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Yes and I acknowledged it. So why do you keep asking? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
562
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:31:00 -
[59] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Tippia wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. They did explain it. Multiple times. Yes and I acknowledged it. Try reading my post fully before you respond. You'll look much less stupid.
Take your own advice and re-read what was said about the killboards.
Because the only sutpid person here is the one who refuses to read what is given to him.
We understand it...we get it....what the hell is your problem again? ================ STOP THE EVEMAIL-áSPAM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78152
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Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:44:00 -
[60] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:oh and btw, sir genius... you're adding up the numbers of this month, EVE kill has pagination. Yes. I am adding up the numbers for this month (the month of March). Hulkageddon started April 28th. There are 30 days in April. Are you really trying to imply that 2 days accounts for the nearly 2.5k difference in the numbers being reported? That's a very weak defense. But I guess besides calling people names and posturing, you don't really have much else to you. If you spent half the effort actually reporting the numbers accurately as you spent in trying to obfuscate your way out of an embarrassing situation, you wouldn't have been in said embarrassing situation in the first place.
Isn't it May now, can we trust a persons maths when they struggle with what freaking month it is anyway?
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Xenuria
Center Haus Apocalypse Now.
513
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it?
Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened.
Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now.
Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
The Future of GoonSwarm |
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
139
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Tippia wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Anyway guys, like I said, if I missed something, explain. They did explain it. Multiple times. Yes and I acknowledged it. Try reading my post fully before you respond. You'll look much less stupid.
And how about an apology? And maybe updating the OP and saying how you were in error? You did throw a pretty strong insult out there. (In fact, it is still there in the subject line and OP.)
Or do you insist on appearing to be stupid... Or are you just trying to be insulting on purpose?
(Tough choice, admitting you are a troll, or admitting you are an idiot. Don't know which is worse.) You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
314
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
Is shitpoast-tyme naow? Braaaaaaaiiin... |
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
139
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Posted - 2012.05.09 18:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened. Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now. Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
Can you please provide documentation that Hulkageddon is indeed a scam? I was involved with the last one and was about as transparent as I could be with prizes, how things were allocated and determined. And folks kept us on the straight and narrow by pointing out the bugs in my scripts to determine the winners .
Or are you, as per usual, just shooting your mouth off, implying evidence you don't have, and otherwise making people dumber by your ramblings? You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
407
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Posted - 2012.05.09 19:08:00 -
[65] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:INB4 more red herrings
Mmmm, fish. I giggle like a mongoloid midget with a case of the hooker tickles when I see PvP alliances that have built their wealth on PvE endeavors complain about carebears. |
Ustrello
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
51
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:24:00 -
[66] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened. Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now. Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
Xenuria calling someone social inept quite the insult |
Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:43:00 -
[67] - Quote
The best part is how I get to walk away with a bucket full of tears.
SnivellingBaby wrote:*sniffle* you should apologize... *sniffle*
Ahhh. I won't be thirsty for the next week.
Thank you all. |
Citizen Smif
DarK IntenTionZ Stop Exploding You Cowards
94
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:56:00 -
[68] - Quote
The answer to your question is relatively simple if you just use this basic formula.
So let the numbers be x, x + 1 and x + 2. their sum is equal to 366, hence
x + (x + 1) + (x + 2) = 366
Solve for x and find the three numbers
x = 121 , x + 1 = 122 and x + 2 = 123
This is relevant to your question.. right? |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1146
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:52:00 -
[69] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:The best part is how I get to walk away with a bucket full of tears. SnivellingBaby wrote:*sniffle* you should apologize... *sniffle* Ahhh. I won't be thirsty for the next week. Thank you all.
The thread has literally been 65 posts telling you that you're too stupid to read what is directly in front of you.
I know you want to claim "tears" friend, as it would somehow make you seem to have "won" this thread.
But, coming on here and claiming someone is lying, being repeatedly told how you're missing the blatant facts and then running away going "Lol tears!" just makes you look like a dribbling buffoon.
So yes, if you count "tears" as those of people who look upon you and are saddened by society in general, you could probably claim some. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
460
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
You shouldnt feed xenuria, he's a sad little whiner that nobody likes and is envious of how well liked I am.
Let the troll sleep under the bridge :) |
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Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
23
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Henry Haphorn wrote:Jacob, you assume as if this matters. The numbers will not change anyone's perception of Hulkageddon and how the campaign affects the in-game economy. It will not change the fact that CCP endorses this event every year and has thus become a regular pass time for us just like baseball has become an American pass time (or was football?). I'm just asking questions. I think you're the one who needs to put your assumptions away. :) Your questions imply that you are assuming that this whole numbers thing matters.
Numbers don't matter too much. Credibility, on the other hand... |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
59
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Posted - 2012.05.10 02:34:00 -
[72] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened.
other people gave the right answer, then I fully spelled it out. helicity block quoted it with a status.
Quote:
Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now.
Funny you should mention that.
Quote:
Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
I've seen plenty of reports that people are receiving their gewngeld for 10 kills ? I've also never heard of previous hulkageddon prizes failing to be distributed ?
ie on what basis do you make that claim ?
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Xenuria
Center Haus Apocalypse Now.
514
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Posted - 2012.05.10 04:57:00 -
[73] - Quote
I just don't care about this forum anymore...
I am devoting all my resources to finding a female with which to mate. It's... Not going well.
However I am confident that I will find one passive enough that will let me touch her.
The Future of GoonSwarm |
uwai223
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
45
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:57:00 -
[74] - Quote
Sup Xenuria, how's the new top hat? You should wear it in all videos, it shows off your burlesque authority. We are required by our constitution to let the voters think they have a choice. That's democracy! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
26
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:I just don't care about this forum anymore...
I am devoting all my resources to finding a female with which to mate. It's... Not going well.
However I am confident that I will find one passive enough that will let me touch her.
Sometimes you are a quite funny little man. |
Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
96
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:I just don't care about this forum anymore...
I am devoting all my resources to finding a female with which to mate. It's... Not going well.
However I am confident that I will find one passive enough that will let me touch her.
By passive, do you mean sedated by drugs that are outlawed in most countries? Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.05.10 10:28:00 -
[77] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer
This coming from Xenuria is what really makes it hurt. Who could possibly have a better perspective on the matter? I still remember my intense feelings of anxiety, unease and indignation I personally felt after being banned from my favorite voice over internet protocol program.
Jacob Staffuer wrote:The best part is how I get to walk away with a bucket full of tears.
The puppet master already had us in his grasp to begin with!
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Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
114
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:05:00 -
[78] - Quote
whats a hulkageddon? I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call Defiant Legacy
247
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:08:00 -
[79] - Quote
8/10 |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
69
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:20:00 -
[80] - Quote
Why is it that when I click 'view posts' on the OP I see 11 pages worth of history posting stuff like this. Seriously, why do you care so much? |
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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened. Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now. Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam.
I see that now. And Helicity is obviously some chick who's still in highschool based on the things she says. Not worth the trouble.
She's lying, and that's all there is to it. Every other killboard on EVE-Kill has updated but not Hulkageddon. All there is too it.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
69
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:31:00 -
[82] - Quote
Actually its been explained to you at least four dozen times now, it isnt anyone elses fault you're either too dumb to see it or too invested in your idiotic opinion to admit it |
enterprisePSI
100
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:13:00 -
[83] - Quote
Helicity Hot. The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |
Lenier Chenal
Meritoc Industries Inc. SRS.
13
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:56:00 -
[84] - Quote
This jacob guy has no intelligence whatsoever. 1/10 i replied. |
Aethormu Stargazer
S.T.A.R.K.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:02:00 -
[85] - Quote
I like this guys. He's entertaining. |
Amon Marcuse
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:29:00 -
[86] - Quote
I really want the time I spent reading all this refunded. |
tofucake prime
The Hatchery Team Liquid
48
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:30:00 -
[87] - Quote
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
Kalaratiri
Skadi's Call Defiant Legacy
138
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:40:00 -
[88] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:Xenuria wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:So no one can explain why the number's Helicity's reporting contradict the actual killboard, I take it? Dude, none of these socially inept clowns are going to give you a straight answer. This is one of the reasons I stopped posting here. I tried to warn everybody about helicty and how last hulkageddon one of her alts somehow won first place. Nobody listened. Nobody ever listens on these forums until it's to late and then the same people scratch their heads and wonder how everything got to where it is now. Helicity is a toolbag of a scam artist and the only impressive or noteworthy quality is that people continuously fall for the same one trick pony of a scam despite all the documentation and related evidence of it being a scam. I see that now. And Helicity is obviously some chick who's still in highschool based on the things she says. Not worth the trouble. She's lying, and that's all there is to it. Every other killboard on EVE-Kill has updated but not Hulkageddon. All there is too it.
Preeetty sure Helicity is not a girl... Although I could be wrong |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:17:00 -
[89] - Quote
Jacob Staffuer wrote:I'm a foreveralone gay man living in Austin TX
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Karbowiak
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:07:00 -
[90] - Quote
SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id IN (402, 401, 400, 645, 85, 86, 87, 431) = 7253
SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt2 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 402; = 21 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt2 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 401; = 1312 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt3 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 400; = 2959 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt4 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 645; = 300 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt5 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 85; = 706 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt6 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 86; = 97 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt7 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 87; = 1834 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt8 FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 431; = 24
Total: 7253
SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id IN (402, 401, 400, 645, 85, 86, 87, 431) AND kll_external_id > 0 = 5687
SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 401 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 1099 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 402 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 15 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 400 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 2231 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 645 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 227 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 85 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 544 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 86 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 80 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 87 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 1471 SELECT COUNT(kll_id) as cnt FROM kb3_kills_2012_04 WHERE kll_ship_id = 431 AND kll_external_id > 0; = 20
Total: 5687
All of the numbers are losses, ships that got killed by others, anywhere in EVE.
Hulkageddon uses an API (EPIC) that does stuff very similar to how i put together these queries. And anyone who wants to check up that all the numbers used in Hulkageddon are correct (Or just want the same data) - You can get it all via EPIC.
Also Helicity might have numbers that are lower, since he rejects a few kills (For example if the characterID is set to 0, and such)
Link to EPIC: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18842&find=unread |
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ISD LoneLynx
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
20
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:11:00 -
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Flame-baiting along with personal attacks, this thread was following the start-post line, so now it meets an end.
Locked. ISD LoneLynx Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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