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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 09:02:00 -
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Hi there i first like to say ive been trading for over 4 months now and ive made a profit of 35Billion Isk From only a 5 Bil Investment Here is My story:
I Used to own a Character called 'runtrade' and have many time tried to get a loan however realising that was a little harder then i thought i decided to sell my main pvp character in order to get the isk to start off.
I saw there was a nice place in the market for me and fairly easy to do, the first thing i had to do is get a character i thought of a name that know one will forget so it had to be whats on poeple mind (sex) and of course i was trading so the name sextrader was perfect,
I then had to get her in a corp the reason for this is so that i can create over 60 Contracts on behalf of my corperation with max skills ths would allow me to set up loads of Buy orders contracts, so i created, 'Sex Trade' Corperation.
Right so now i got the character and ive got the corp and ive got my 5bil to invest so how did i do it?
As youre proberly aware now its trading through the contracts system everyone seems to think its an ugly interface and to awkard to use well you need to look beyond that and look at the profit margins to understand why i went into it.
I had a rough idea of how it all work For example I set up BUY ORDER Contract for Amarr Navy Large Armor rep on behalf of my corp For lets say 95mil When i get the item i stick it back on contract not my corp this time its through my character for 115mil So you take away my tax 1% you get my profit, Okay so i made about 14 mil profit....
....now imagine dealing with 30+ items just like that.
As i became more familiar with the system i could create contract much much faster which reduced my time in eve ofc and i bacame more aware of the items i was selling and at what price they would normally go for so for instance if i saw a few items that where pretty cheap on the market itstead of undercutting them i would simple buy them and stick then back up on contracts.
I was amazed how active the market so i bacame to advance myself even more by focusing at what times i would put up buy orders this was a very important key factor of this type of market becouse there is a bit of competition can be a bit anoying when you set up a buy order contract for 96mil then someone would stick one up for 96.2mil and ofc you cant modify the contracts once its up, but if i was to do it at the right time i could avoid be undercut i found the most active time was about 5:00PM eve Time many will come into jita and sell there faction stuff so that would be my time i would start putting them up, if i was to put my buy order contracts up for lets say in the morning 11:00 am which is a bad idea becouse the market is not as active as it would be at 5:00 So the time it gets to 5:00 youre contracts would have been undercut many times
about a Month into Trading i could see that the CNR market was very active, times i would put up 5 Buy orders at a time and they would all accept after a few weeks of this ive decided what about if i could cut out the contract system and the tax i had to pay. So next time all my buy orders for the cnr's accepted i would contact the person who was selling all these cnr's.
It was fairly hard to speak to the poeple normaly, i guess there from another county ;)
but when they said they could come up with 150 CNR's everyweek i was shocked and couldnt tell if he was lying so i said i coundt take that much but i could take 50 CNR'S a week he said okay straight away he sold me 50 CNR, i was real happy i got this deal this ment i knew i was going to earn so much every week in a bulk deal the price was about 230mil and it varied but seems they where selling for around 260mil i was happy with my margin.
However After about a month and a bit of doing this the expansion came....
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: SexTrader on 06/05/2009 09:09:36
After that jita was broken for about a week and everything became dry and price bagan to shoot up CNR's went up about 100 mil to 340milish and that was the point which they stopped selling me the CNR'S.
I Will now show you my books this is all the items i dealt with however i did deal with a few more but it wasnt worth me putting them in.
Sex Trader
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 09:03:00 -
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 09:03:00 -
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 09:53:00 -
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.06 10:01:00 -
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Crimsona Endarius
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Posted - 2009.05.06 10:06:00 -
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I get the feeling the forge is going to see a peak in faction item buy contracts quite shortly.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2009.05.06 10:15:00 -
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Very interesting story mate, thanks much for sharing. Truthfully I haven't really experimented with the contract system much, using it only for getting rid of a bunch of pesky BPCs and a ship I had left behind and couldn't be asked to retrieve. I will wait for the inevitable contract surge to die down, and maybe I'll give the system another glance. Glad to see you made your fortune =P
-L
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Confuzer
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.05.06 11:44:00 -
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150 cnr's???
I reek macro-missioners...
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Zen Mehari
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:15:00 -
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150 CNR per week does sound an awful lot, even for Isk farmers. Not sure about the ethics of trading with them...did you consider reporting it as suspicious to CCP or decide to simply take your cut?
No doubt they welcomed the opportunity to fuzz the Isk trail, but I don't have all the facts so I won't comment further.
An interesting read, thanks for taking the time to post.
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skeljita
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:25:00 -
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WTB CNR's
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ED Dean
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: ED Dean on 06/05/2009 14:59:08
wow good marketing tool. using this simple story so that you can increase the price of your selling items sky high.
 Originally by: Crimsona Endarius
I get the feeling the forge is going to see a peak in faction item buy contracts quite shortly.
i believe so Crimson. and guess who is the seller...:) she uses this post to market her stuff. people will read this...inspired by the story...and started to buy the stuff listed by her in the post. i bet she has stock up all the faction stuff beforehand...and the CNR too. we can see the immediate example in the post before this one:)
well played...salute to you.
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Romanov DeBeers
Gallente
Small Gods
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:08:00 -
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I've seen SexTrader selling in Jita and the eve forums, including massive quantities of CNRs, in the last months so I dont think this is just a marketing ploy.
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Dzil
Caldari
Second Quadrant Ice Division
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:11:00 -
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Nice work STD. I've only dabbled in the contract market thus far, but it does appear there's a ton of money to be made as there's much less competition, and therefore better margins to enjoy. May have to get in there next time I have a liquid bill I don't know what to do with.
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.05.06 19:59:00 -
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You started with 5 Billion ISK. This is not "From Rags to Riches", more like from mediocre to improved trader 
Amarr for Life |
Sophil
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Posted - 2009.05.06 21:04:00 -
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Nice! That's a huge profit! :)
A couple of months ago I noticed that Megathron Navy Issue was selling at around 280m. So I put up 8 wtb contracts at 250m. The next day they were all filled. I didn't sell them thinking they had to go up in price sometime, and they did. Sold 5 of them a few weeks back at 460m a peice. Still have 3 that I've rigged, fitted and go pew pew in :)
I don't like the contracts interface though
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2009.05.07 02:19:00 -
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Confirming that the sex was of good quality. Would buy again. |
Mystafyre
Caldari
Dark Materials
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.07 09:07:00 -
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I confirm that SexTrader indeed has been making nice profit. Eating my own profits! 
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skeljita
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Posted - 2009.05.07 12:15:00 -
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I bought 1 bill worth of CNR's last night for 47m each. FLew them to low sec and sold them on contracts for 80m each. Cheers
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Ronaldo Carrare
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Posted - 2009.05.07 12:17:00 -
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I have to admit that the unfriendly contract interface is one of the main reasons why I've never really touched contracts.
Nice story, gave me stuff to think about
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Lukriss
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Posted - 2009.05.07 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
You started with 5 Billion ISK. This is not "From Rags to Riches", more like from mediocre to improved trader
Rags to riches sounds better though.
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FreddyMac
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Posted - 2009.05.08 04:24:00 -
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Confirming that SexTrader isnt BS'ing. Ive seen her in Jita selling.
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Grozen
Caldari
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.05.08 05:50:00 -
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There wouldn't be any better way of boosting your sales then creating this report.Nicely thought but i will stay out of this
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SteamViper
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Posted - 2009.05.08 07:18:00 -
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Where's the "Rags" bit when he starts off with 5 Billion.
Lol what a load of toss.
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:14:00 -
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Confirming lots of ppl will go and crash the contract market now!
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g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.05.08 21:52:00 -
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I was seriously misled by the title of the thread.
heh, that rhymed! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
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Mystafyre
Caldari
Dark Materials
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.08 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Confirming lots of ppl will go and crash the contract market now!
Confirming this! 
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SexTrader
Amarr
Sex Trade
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Posted - 2009.05.08 23:01:00 -
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I do apologize if the thread is a litte misleading
But this sorta of trading can be done even if you only have 500mil or even 60mil isk but the amount of isk will define how much profit you are going to make, more isk more profit make sence
i do have my reasons to believe i was buying the cnr's from isk sellers etc but i had no hard evidence and i guess i just took my piece of the cake and use the excuse 'chinese poeple gotta eat as well'
Thanks for the comments so far :)
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Karon Wodens
Depleted Uranium
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Posted - 2009.05.09 12:30:00 -
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Please adopt me and train me :D
Caldari Prime: Think of that moment, remember what they did...
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.09 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 09/05/2009 12:55:32
Originally by: ED Dean
Edited by: ED Dean on 06/05/2009 14:59:08
wow good marketing tool. using this simple story so that you can increase the price of your selling items sky high.
Originally by: Crimsona Endarius
I get the feeling the forge is going to see a peak in faction item buy contracts quite shortly.
i believe so Crimson. and guess who is the seller...:) she uses this post to market her stuff. people will read this...inspired by the story...and started to buy the stuff listed by her in the post. i bet she has stock up all the faction stuff beforehand...and the CNR too. we can see the immediate example in the post before this one:)
well played...salute to you.
Neah, what he's saying is for real. Saw him active on the market, i know his main is in MM - 4S corp i think ... you really shouldn't link them contracts with him you know, and he is dealing in the bulk market a lot.
Although why he would want ppl to know how much he's making is beyond me ... you retiring ?
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