Why are you insisting that I am scamming? Do you have any proof? Amazed that the biggest scam alliance in the game is telling me I am scamming when I am not.

You should REALLY take those English classes.....

No.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1262521#post1262521

Just edited my post that was right underneath the OP so no one will bother to read this mess of a thread.

Not everyone speaks english as a first language in the world you know.

Incorrect.

GG#UselessGG% means the skill cannot be used even if you want to.
GG#Choosing not to use itGG% means it can be used, but you don't want to.

The two are pretty much each other's exact opposites. There is also (at least) a third category, which led up to the learning skill changeGG*

No, it is irrelevant.

One can give SPs for any reason or no reason at all.

Harden up.

... It actually matters a whole lot ...

If you want to help then tell the OP how she can use the skills she trained to make ISKs. She had planned to use corporation contracts to make ISKs with shiny modules. How can she now use the skills to achieve the same after the change?

Yes, to you.

If you want to help then tell the OP how she can use the skills she trained to make ISKs.

Greetings capsuleer,

The same way as before; using Contracts. The market is only an additional option.

Regards,

Shian Yang

No. The contract market is breaking away. Shiny mods are now traded over the normal market.

If I am not mistaken then CCP did this on purpose, because the contract market was somehow wrong. CCP has forgotten about the players who helped themselves and trained corporation contracts to solve the issue and now with the change got help, but also have spend time in skills they now no longer need.

A very easy to understand argumentation. You have to be really really stupid to not see this. Or a douche.

No. The contract market is breaking away. Shiny mods are now traded over the normal market.

If I am not mistaken then CCP did this on purpose, because the contract market was somehow wrong. CCP has forgotten about the players who helped themselves by training corporation contracts to solve the issue and now with the change got help, but also have spend time in skills they now no longer need. Some might now need to train extra trading skills on top.

A very easy to understand argumentation. You have to be really really stupid to not see this. Or a douche.

Your arguement is invalid.....
This is just like saying: "I spent time training up Carriers, but now they nerfed/changed them, so I want my SP back" Its the same exact arguement just a different skill. Tip's point is perfectly valid, your apperently to ignorant to see the comparision.

No. The contract market is breaking away. Shiny mods are now traded over the normal market.

If I am not mistaken then CCP did this on purpose, because the contract market was somehow wrong.

No, the argument is valid. Players have trained these skills and CCP in some way admitted that the contract market is broken

GG*and to everyone else, since the mechanics affect everyone equally.

The problem with that is that he seems quite disinclined to describe why he needs them to begin with and how anything has changed with this non-changeGG*

Also, yoink.

No, the argument is valid. Players have trained these skills and CCP in some way admitted that the contract market is broken. So why do they only fix the market but do not turn the contract skills of these players into more trading skills? Some will need to train more skills to set up enough orders now.

When CCP dropped learning skills did they not only drop them, but they increased the attributes. Nothing changed there. Why did it need SPs? It did not. We could have moved on without them. I simply had more SPs after the removal and to stick into somewhere else while I kept my training speed. I had no loss but got a bonus!

So whatever reason you have is irrelevant. The claim is valid and good.

No. The contract market is breaking away. Shiny mods are now traded over the normal market.

So you think we should be refunded on skills we don't need anymore?

Greetings capsuleer Whitehound,

Can you still trade those modules through a Contract?

Regards,

Shian Yang

No. Who is still looking at contracts?

You are indeed mistaken. CCP did this on purpose, because they wanted to be able to track the prices of higher-meta modules with their standard market-data collection tools and feed that data into the new wardec, killmail, and inventory UIs. As an added bonus, it also made the market more consistent (since faction ships and ammo already existed on the market) and logical, and it also made trading with these items more efficient.

That is a blatant lie.

You can still trade these items through Contracts.

Even in The Forge region they are traded through Contract. At least hey were approximately 16 hours ago when one of my co-pilots bid on a few of those contracts, set up a few for purchasing and offered a number for sale.

Regards,

Shian Yang

No, this is not what I am saying.

What I am saying is that if a game change makes part of your skill training obsolete then it can be discussed to reimburse them.

Imagine what would happen if CCP decided to switch the weapon bonuses of Amarr and Gallente ships around, but left your gunnery skills untouched? You would have to fly Amarr ships with hyrbid weapons and gallente ships with lasers. You could still use your weapons, right? But it would suck for those players who did not train both weapon types. According to Tippia would this be completely acceptable and she would find reasons why the ships are in fact better with the change.

Ah, so CCP forgot about the players who trade with these items per contract. I see.

OP will have to find some new way to scam.

Now your jumping down their throats assuming that the contract system is going to remain the same indefinately. THAT is my point right there. You are jumping to a conclusion that isn't a conclusion. You don't freaking know. For all we know its in the works. There is NO REASON currently that CCP should hand out free SP to everyone. IF you have proof that the Contracts are remaining the same then post it other, I again say, your arguement is invalid. Do your damn homework ffs....