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Dristra
Amarr Idle Haven
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:57:00 -
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So we will hear more about amulation in winter then?
Afraid the "Make it more than a shiny" will be a genuine challenge, there needs to be a reason to use wis, and if it has nothing to do with current station services, then what?
Originally by: CCP Atropos the physics engine has balls
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 01:37:00 -
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Exploration is an obvious choice for expansion of WiS. Docking your ship at a drone complex you've cleared and then exploring the enterior for technology and stuff. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.20 01:47:00 -
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This thread just reached the 10 page epic mark so... posting in an epic thread!
Originally by: darkrei9n
Because Minmatar ships smell like garbage, Amarr ships smell like incense and that stuff, Caldari ships smell like a hospital, and Gallente ships smell like French people.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Exploration is an obvious choice for expansion of WiS. Docking your ship at a drone complex you've cleared and then exploring the enterior for technology and stuff.
I like the idea of ambulation (Wis-whatever), and anything they can add on (almost) is usually a good thing eventually.
Think of the ambulation patch as the next POD to Pilot interface being upgraded, so that pod pilots are able to enter and exit the pod in a more timely and safer fashion in certain stations (as far as I believe not all stations will have interiors) that has had the upgrade fitted.
What pod pilots are able to do when out of the pod is pretty much still open to debate. At least pod pilots won't dance. Why would a semi-immortal being enjoy dancing anyway?
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Kytanos Termek
Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.20 06:39:00 -
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I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of role players suddenly cried out in agony, and were suddenly silenced.
(I want ambulation soon *sniff* *sniff*)
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Zoe Kuhal
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Posted - 2009.06.20 11:32:00 -
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Upon release FiS (Flying in Space) didn't have alot of content either. |
Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.06.20 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic Edited by: Zartanic on 19/06/2009 11:45:43Its a SF game so its easy to 'run' without running.
... or do stuff without moving at all, like in this internet spaceships game, what was it called again? |
Wetchaser1
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.20 13:15:00 -
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Some ideas to keep ambulation from just being a shiny thing
1)Make repairing your ship a task that requires you to purchase VIP service tickets for instant fixs which could be carried in cargo or in your items. Or if your not in a rush, you walk the station while ship slowly repairs. Tickets could be sold at any agent office, and yea i think standing should play a part in how much a ticket costs. Nubs could actually find themselves a nice business selling tickets to low standing individuals. Of course they would have to dock up to make the deal . But since missions and wars are pretty time critical, i think you should be able to spend the ticket from inside your ship.
2) I would still like to be able to paint my ship, even if im the only one that can see it. Put a paint shop in station. If you ship gets blown up, you of course lose the shiny.
3) Gambling is an awesome idea. But just playing cards or other games of chance.......eh no. These are advanced times were living in, and cards are way to prehistoric. Needs to be games of skill, preferably against real players. want to be different? Make it so when people come into the casino/bar they actually see people playing each other. Not some cutaway to above the table view. Make that an option for the truly interested to see all the game stats. Tiered tic tac toe is always fun and looks futuristic. 5 tiers would look cool glowing blue on a table.
4) Real people have pets. Wonder if there's room in eve for that? You raise them using different food types for different result then sell em like data cores, hehe. "your pet fluffy has a cold, it will cost 2.3 mil isk to arrange her medical care while your 28 jumps away"
5) Dance could be turned into a money maker as well. You go into nightclub, pay cover charge and dance by hitting the keys to the promts like all the other similar games. Want to make more? Pay to dance in vip lounge. Of course its gonna be harder there.
6) They have chess boards in the park. Put em in stations were people walk past and can see someone waiting for anyone to play a game.
7) Ambulation means your gonna have new body to take care of. Want to run like the wind thru station? You better hit the gym. If you get fat and nasty, there's no running for you.
8) Once you get that hard body, your gonna need the right threads to show it off. Better hit that store before you leave so you wont look stupid at next station wearing a tent on your toothpick body.
9) This is a biggie. If you get out of your ship and meet someone in station face to face. There is no tax on any transactions you do. Just like in real life This would necessitate another chat channel called station which you would pass the contract link thru to get the tax benny. Always good to keep a contract slot open
10) There has got to be a hologram room were you can go hand to hand with someone using any background you chose or have bought rights to chose. Hologram room could also be used for training in anything since its driven by imagination. Fighting skills could be based on gym time or God forbid skills...... Wetchaser |
Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.20 14:56:00 -
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As long as it comes with the option to turn it off completely, I don't really care when it comes. |
Drakarin
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Blake Ice
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Our new vision for Ambulation is that 3 years (or so) after it has been released new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That¦s our vision and we are working towards that. It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
I don't think this vision is possible. In order for this to happen, ambulation will have to provide the player with at least 2 out of the following 3 things:
1. Make isk/lp/stuff 2. Receive kill mails/blow things up 3. Be fun not just pretty
Well, walking in stations has limitations, but walking/boarding other players ships, THAT has amazing potential for role-playing and real combat applications. Anyone up for an MMORPGRTSFPS tactical action science fiction space sim? |
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bestofworst on 20/06/2009 16:34:27 Couldn't there be a way to have some Mass Effect-esk missions to do while in stations? Have instation PvE combat as a test for further combat additions like PvP in stations.
Edit: But if anything, I would rather there not be a character fit screen of sorts. Maybe weapons that have more dmg (Pistol, rifle, stuff like that) and not armor (maybe in planetary combat).
As an anecdote, a merc corp wardecs this mining corporation. The mining corporation then docks up and does WIS to wait out the wardec. The Mercs get tired of waiting and sends a few guys in to kill the miners, but the miners all have guns and can defend themselves, and by doing so kill or force off the mercs. ---- My Music |
Drakarin
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries It has been stated time and time again. NO RUNNING in WiS. NO jumping in WiS. NO dancing in WiS. NO taking-off-your-clothes-and-dance-on-the-table-Night-elf-style in WiS (the exotic dancers do that for you).
Simply put; NO silliness in WiS. People running like maddogs everywhere isn't realistic. Think about it, how often do you see people run everywhere? Allowing people to run will cause everyone and their grandmother, save for the hardcore RPers to run around ambulation, totally spoiling the atmosphere. So no, NO running. I've been searching my butt off for the interview but can't find it. But it's also somewhere in one of the fanfest 2008 videos.
The simple solution is to have a run meter. In real life, running is exhausting. That's why people don't always run. It's faster, but harder to maintain.
Also, why can't we jump? That's not silly at all. That's a basic human ability. Dancing? That's just fun, not silly either. Stripping? No, I don't want that.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Our new vision for Ambulation is that 3 years (or so) after it has been released new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That¦s our vision and we are working towards that. It¦s too early though to get into more detail than that.
you got a problem because many ppl will watch exotic dancers all the time and refuse to pvp
WIS will kill the pvp in eve
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Florence Ambrose
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Posted - 2009.07.08 06:45:00 -
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I'll be happy if they introduce the new lighting system to the spaceship side of EVE.
And fix the non-wormhole space skyboxes. PLEASE.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.07.08 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Delvardious Kaesos Eww Planetside. No thanks. You'd have to pry the license away from SOE(and any partnership with SOE will ruin your game, just ask Lucasarts)
In this case, you actually have it backwards. Lucasarts was the driving force behind the NGE and they wanted it to coincide with the release of a certain film on dvd.
That said, continue to blame SOE for everything. Its quite popular to do so.
Cheers,
-Karlemgne My sig don't fracking work. |
Antiquus Altercor
Minmatar Phoenix Propulsion Labs
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Posted - 2009.07.08 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 08/07/2009 09:59:44 Planetside is making Sony little money now, so it may be able to be bought. It's a great fps, teamwork needed or not depending on your playstyle, and a lot of elements in it ended up in other fps's such as battlefield 2142 and even Team Fortress 2. Great bunch of vehicles, aside from BFR's that is, nice balance after continuous nerfbatting for years.
And of course it had it's roots in Tribes and Tribes 2, which were the definitive REALLY 3D team based shooter with jump jets. And to take it back to the beginning, Tribes was based on Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers. The real book, not the sh*t movie.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.07.08 10:12:00 -
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If you liked planet side take a look at global agenda, it hopes to fill its shoies quite nicely the ceo said he was inspired by eve a bit too.
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Mors Magne
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.08 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Antiquus Altercor Edited by: Antiquus Altercor on 08/07/2009 09:59:44 And to take it back to the beginning, Tribes was based on Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers. The real book, not the sh*t movie.
I liked the book and the film Starship Troopers! They are different but both entertaining! The NEW M.Corp Data Hub - Check it out! |
Antiquus Altercor
Minmatar Phoenix Propulsion Labs
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Posted - 2009.07.08 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mors Magne
I liked the book and the film Starship Troopers! They are different but both entertaining!
Character development in the book was excellent. The guys who did the movie didn't understand this development, and in the movie the characters were one dimensional idiots. If anything, the movie mocked the book's characters.
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Anslo
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Posted - 2009.07.09 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Rastelle
Originally by: Awesome Possum Dear CCP, delete everything you have on WIS.
Its worthless.
i hope they dont as eve needs to expand, with SW:TOR having released a pretty amazing cinematic trailer recently, alot of people may be tempted to move once it comes online (i know i am)
in anycase YaY for me getting a 9 page thread lol
That expansion should be into space, not by giving people further reason to dock up.
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Jita 4, the new Goldshire Inn.
To be quite f*cking honest, i normally don't care about ranting elitist neckbears like yourself saying that you personally feel ambulation is a waste, but who the hell are you to determine what people should or should not think. Elitist neckbeards like you are the only thing that make me rage ever on EVE-O forums. This isn't your game, don't act like you own it.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.10 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Drakarin The simple solution is to have a run meter. In real life, running is exhausting. That's why people don't always run. It's faster, but harder to maintain.
You don't run in real life unless you are in a real hurry. Why? It's exhausting and generally uncomfortable. Pod pilots are never in a hurry if they're in station. Why would they? They're the gods of the universe. And a running meter would just **** people off. Just like it did in Diablo 2. People run until the meter is out, stand still and wait for it to recover and then run again...no thanks. Originally by: Drakarin Also, why can't we jump? That's not silly at all. That's a basic human ability.
Yes. Now, let me ask you, what need would you have of jumping inside a luxurious space station? Do you jump around the mall, perhaps?
Originally by: Drakarin Dancing? That's just fun, not silly either.
As I said, the exotic dancers do that for you, and a lot better too. Not to mention that you will not be thrown in the brig for acting loony on the promenade. Win win.
Originally by: Drakarin Stripping? No, I don't want that.
Thank you. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.10 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Antiquus Altercor
Originally by: Mors Magne
I liked the book and the film Starship Troopers! They are different but both entertaining!
Character development in the book was excellent. The guys who did the movie didn't understand this development, and in the movie the characters were one dimensional idiots. If anything, the movie mocked the book's characters.
They also kinda missed the message of the book and turned it into a mindless action-splatter fest. Way to fail. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Frug
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Drakarin
The simple solution is to have a run meter. In real life, running is exhausting. That's why people don't always run. It's faster, but harder to maintain.
Also, why can't we jump? That's not silly at all. That's a basic human ability. Dancing? That's just fun, not silly either. Stripping? No, I don't want that.
I have the ability to jump. Jumping is not silly.
However if we are having a discussion, and I begin to jump up and down in front of you, you will probably think I am being silly. That is because jumping in the wrong situation is silly.
Ambulation does not provide situations in which jumping makes sense. Thus any jumping would be silly. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.07.10 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ancy Denaries They also kinda missed the message of the book and turned it into a mindless action-splatter fest. Way to fail.
I don't know. I thought they got the message that fascism is sexy but stupid across fairly well… whether that's the message of the book is another matter. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.07.10 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Frug I have the ability to jump. Jumping is not silly.
However if we are having a discussion, and I begin to jump up and down in front of you, you will probably think I am being silly. That is because jumping in the wrong situation is silly.
Ambulation does not provide situations in which jumping makes sense. Thus any jumping would be silly.
Excellently put. Thank you very much for conveying what I failed to convey :D Props. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Therran Promitz
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.10 11:01:00 -
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I don't want to jump, dance, or anything that would break the dystopic atmosphere, but ambulation would really up the immersion, having corp meetings inside a POS, Just hanging around a big open room, looking out a giant window....
For obvious reason, CCP would need to limit the number of exotic dancer that could be put in a station
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.07.10 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Therran Promitz I don't want to jump, dance, or anything that would break the dystopic atmosphere, but ambulation would really up the immersion, having corp meetings inside a POS, Just hanging around a big open room, looking out a giant window....
For obvious reason, CCP would need to limit the number of exotic dancer that could be put in a station
Why force everyone into one location? Currently you can chat from anywhere. Why nerf it so you have to be somewhere? Is it really a smart idea to put your whole corp in one easily campable location?
They've already stated no windows.
The fact that exotic dancers come up as an arguement either for or against ambulation shows the complete lack of game mechanics.
If you want 3D chat other things do it better, much better.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.07.10 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Omni Unnecessary - Mitnal
Originally by: Alora Venoda i think one of the problems that CCP must overcome with ambulation is the issue of it being "very shiny, but not practical". there really needs to be something to do other than chat while "ambulating"...
current games with 3-D ambulatory avatars all either keep you occupied with either combat/puzzle scenarios, or doing cosmetic stuff like decorating a house, or playing dress-up, etc. i can imagine having corp/alliance meetings via ambulation, but unless they add really cool interactive collaboration features, i don't really see how it would be worth the effort compared to ventrilo alone.
if they added fun mini-games, puzzles, gambling, or any other kinds of "indoor entertainment", i think it could become very popular even if combat isn't an option. if they included a way to decorate your own room or something, and change or even design clothes, i think ambulation may even get more girls involved in EVE... even if they don't ever leave the stations
who knows? maybe they will finally find a good use for that charisma attribute when they introduce new mini-professions involving player-owned lounges, casinos, and fashion boutiques
An intelligent reply...thank you.
It would be good to have contracts and other personal transactions moved to ambulation.
No. This would be a huge nerf. HUGE. Currently you can create and/or accept contract from anywhere while doing anything.
Why nerf it so you have to dock up to do it? What your doing is altering the game not for the but to force people to use a new feature. That's a broken mechanic. Period.
Please share why you think it would be good.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.07.10 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Edited by: CCP Eris Discordia on 05/06/2009 23:24:12
Originally by: Awesome Possum
There's absolutely nothing you can think of doing in WIS that can't be done already in game.. with the exception of RP kiddies dry humping their avatars in some dark corner.
Our new vision for Ambulation is that 3 years (or so) after it has been released new players will ask how people played EVE without their avatar. We want to integrate Ambulation as another side of EVE and make it meaningful. That's our vision and we are working towards that. It's too early though to get into more detail than that.
Does this mean it will have game mechanics? Are you going to no longer have it be optional?
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Dristra
Amarr Idle Haven
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Posted - 2009.07.11 00:06:00 -
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As I understand you will not be forced to use WIS ever if you do not want to, so we can just ignore all the silly ideas about walking around or standing in line to repair or trade.
This being said, there is little besides exploration\immersion that WIS can really be used for beyond the obvious social aspects.
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