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SK Rooster
Gallente No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.04.26 06:22:00 -
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for example if i find a radar site PAR-819 does that mean that next week i could find a PAR-819 and it will be the same type of site?
anyone found a pattern to this madness and if so maybe someone has a spreadsheet of the different scan ids
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Lentor
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Posted - 2009.04.26 07:50:00 -
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scan ids are useless! why you ask? caus the change after every dt. we scanned every site in our wh and after the next dt the ids had changed but the sites remained the same.
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Tang Poon
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Posted - 2009.04.26 08:17:00 -
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The idea of ID tags is to make it easier for you when scanning a system.
For example:
You scan, you find several signals and choose one. Now, before the introduction of ID tags, finding the signal you choose among several was a bit hard, idtags make it easier.
The tags will dissappear either after you jump out of the system or after dt. No real big deal is it tho? cos after scanning you bm the sites found.
The allocation of ID tags seems to me to be a random generation.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.26 09:20:00 -
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ID's are random, if you find a code again there's no increased chance of it being the same kind of site.
The ID's only stay until the next DT, then they get shuffled again. Still, they are incredibly useful.
If you're scanning a system with a friend you can tell them what ID's your scanning, so that you don't double scan, once you've narrowed it down and found out the type you can now put it on ignore safely and tell your friends which signal exactly you mean shouldn't be bothered about without having to 100% it and give them bookmarks. Combined with the ignore function it has made scanning a 25-30 sig system take only an hour instead of the three hours it took before. Also, it has come to my attention that I'm really in need of a proper signature. |
Tridgit
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.04.27 00:42:00 -
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l2read patchnotes roosternub =)
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.04.27 05:59:00 -
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They're certainly not useless, they're awesome. When scanning solo they make it much more easier to keep track of the sites, but most of all they make co-operation so much easier and better.
It's too bad they change every dt, (not when leaving system), but even as they are they are a great help.
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Nyota Sol
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.04.27 10:13:00 -
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A ship. A pilot. A solar system.
If any of these 3 factors change, the ID will change. ___________________________________________
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Midnight Firestarter
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.27 10:16:00 -
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If CCP made them static ..... then they would have been awesome ...
But like most things in this game ..... they where introduced half finished.
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Midas Hikaru
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Posted - 2009.04.27 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Midas Hikaru on 27/04/2009 12:16:36
Quote: If CCP made them static ..... then they would have been awesome ...
If they were static, then before long we would have a list of 'Good' IDs and a list of 'Dont bother with these' IDs. You would then only have to shoot out one probe, scan the system and lookup the IDs to see exactly what the sites in the system are.
You are supposed to scan down each site before you findout what it is. You are supposed to have to do some probing before you find out what type of site you are going to get.
Random IDs work exactly as intended. They are a very useful tool for allowing probers to keep track of what they are looking at.
Quote: But like most things in this game ..... they where introduced half finished.
But like a lot of complainers, you haven't actually thought about things before whinning on the forums.
Waaaaa, there isnt a 'win the game' button... Eve is too hard!
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.04.27 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nyota Sol A ship. A pilot. A solar system.
If any of these 3 factors change, the ID will change.
Not true for W-space. Only DT matters, the sigs are the same for all pilots, until next dt.
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Midnight Firestarter
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Midnight Firestarter on 27/04/2009 15:07:04 Midas Hikaru ...
Complete and utter rubbish .....
The id should be static until the site despawns ....
Its not hard and as I pointed out it would have made the filter a work of art instead of scan now - down time - scan again ..
Go troll somewhere else.
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Midas Hikaru
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:41:00 -
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Quote: The id should be static until the site despawns ....
Its not hard and as I pointed out it would have made the filter a work of art instead of scan now - down time - scan again ..
Sorry but I dont see the need? If you have already scanned it out, your bookmark will still be in place after the DT.
If you didnt bookmark the site, then you still have to scan it down again after DT. I guess knowing the ID would be a little help here, but why take the trouble to write the ID down on a post-it before DT if you arn't going to Bookmark your unfinished site?
Sorry about the heavy sarcasm in my previous post, I was more refering to permanent static IDs for sites that I figured this thread was talking about.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.04.27 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Hikaru
Quote: The id should be static until the site despawns ....
Its not hard and as I pointed out it would have made the filter a work of art instead of scan now - down time - scan again ..
Sorry but I dont see the need? If you have already scanned it out, your bookmark will still be in place after the DT.
If you didnt bookmark the site, then you still have to scan it down again after DT. I guess knowing the ID would be a little help here, but why take the trouble to write the ID down on a post-it before DT if you arn't going to Bookmark your unfinished site?
Sorry about the heavy sarcasm in my previous post, I was more refering to permanent static IDs for sites that I figured this thread was talking about.
System has 12 crap signals, 3 WH's. One WH despawns, but signal count stays the same, and you want to quickly find the new WH.
Now, even assuming you bothered to bookmark all the crap signals, which I most often don't, which is easier, making a 16 or 32 au formation and getting an immediate red dot of the only signal you want, since it's clearly distinguishable by the sig id not on your list, or sorting out which of the signals correspond to which bookmark, before even beginning to narrow down the one signal you're looking for?
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Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.04.30 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Nyota Sol A ship. A pilot. A solar system.
If any of these 3 factors change, the ID will change.
Not true for W-space. Only DT matters, the sigs are the same for all pilots, until next dt.
Also not true in regular space. A friend and I scanned in the same low sec system at different times. we both had a list of identical IDs.
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laurence katra
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Posted - 2009.05.01 02:32:00 -
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scan IDs are nice. ppl have hit on the main points already. one idea that really helps when finding a site is to BM it with a naming convention like
GHY-675 Grav
it also helps.
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Metsino Konchura
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Posted - 2009.05.01 07:49:00 -
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Scan Ids are perhaps too helpful if anything. 2 pilot scanning together can scan all 20+ signals in a WH system in less than 30 minutes. Doing this before was a long drawn out process. If they were to be changed in anyway I'd hope they only gave the signal type at 75% to make scanning more of a profession again, rather than a race to see who can move balls round the screen quickest
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.05.01 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 01/05/2009 10:21:15 Edited by: Qui Shon on 01/05/2009 10:18:45
Originally by: Metsino Konchura Scan Ids are perhaps too helpful if anything. 2 pilot scanning together can scan all 20+ signals in a WH system in less than 30 minutes. Doing this before was a long drawn out process. If they were to be changed in anyway I'd hope they only gave the signal type at 75% to make scanning more of a profession again, rather than a race to see who can move balls round the screen quickest
I was against making scanning so damn easy as it is now, but no sense in fighting windmills. CCP decided to make it mainstream, so might as well go with the flow and enjoy easy-mode scanning. I can do what you describe alone, usually. Depends on sys class, or rather on how many of the sigs are low-q and easy to scan out.
I kinda feel there is no exploration, really. Just mapping.
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