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Gabriel Lioncourt
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Posted - 2009.04.23 00:25:00 -
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The title should explain it all... wtf is Meta and wtf does it do if anything?
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente Ammo Tech Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.23 00:34:00 -
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meta lvl?
Isn't that like the level within tech one that determines what is supposedly better...like faction items? Usually they are higher level? (\_/) (O.o) (> <) The writer of the article did not quote himself- Cortes |
Future Mutant
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Posted - 2009.04.23 01:17:00 -
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meta is a generic guide of quality of a module- meta 1 being the lowest (ie crap) and meta 4 being the best named version of an item.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.04.23 01:19:00 -
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Actually neither of the above is correct.
Meta is supposed to be rarity of an item and the only real effect of it for invention. That said, higher meta levels tend to be better but not necessarily, in fact it's a very common sight to see meta 4 items being better than meta 5(tech 2).
Generally, if you have a keen eye and read the attributes it's a useless figure for anything but invention. Parrots, commence!
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Amish Juggernaut
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Research
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Posted - 2009.04.23 01:38:00 -
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Actually, none of the above are correct.
Meta level starts at 0, with examples of meta level 0 being T1 ships. Like the poster above said, sometimes meta 4 mods are better than T2 or meta 5. One good example is the 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates (meta 4) have easier fitting requirements and better stats than the T2 1600mm plates (meta 5.)
Also, in terms of invention, if you incorporate a meta 1-4 item into the invention job, it generally raises your chances of a successful invention. The only case where this is not true is in ship invention, because T1 ships are considered meta 0, thus they have no significant effect of changing the invention chance.
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente Ammo Tech Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.23 01:39:00 -
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I always wondered about that. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) The writer of the article did not quote himself- Cortes |
Jita Jenn
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Posted - 2009.04.23 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jita Jenn on 23/04/2009 01:52:36
Originally by: NoNah Actually neither of the above is correct.
Meta is supposed to be rarity of an item and the only real effect of it for invention. That said, higher meta levels tend to be better but not necessarily, in fact it's a very common sight to see meta 4 items being better than meta 5(tech 2).
Generally, if you have a keen eye and read the attributes it's a useless figure for anything but invention.
Actually, both of those posts are correct. Meta 1 modules have the worst attributes, meta 4 have the best before T2 and faction/officer mods.
Most meta 4 mods are exactly the same as T2 except they have lower fitting requirements, e.g. lower cpu and powergrid needs. There's a nice chart to explain this here...
Linkage
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Gabriel Lioncourt
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Posted - 2009.04.23 02:29:00 -
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thanx! its just been bugging me for so long lol
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.04.23 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 23/04/2009 02:34:55
Originally by: Amish Juggernaut Actually, none of the above are correct.
Meta level starts at 0, with examples of meta level 0 being T1 ships. Like the poster above said, sometimes meta 4 mods are better than T2 or meta 5. One good example is the 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates (meta 4) have easier fitting requirements and better stats than the T2 1600mm plates (meta 5.)
Also, in terms of invention, if you incorporate a meta 1-4 item into the invention job, it generally raises your chances of a successful invention. The only case where this is not true is in ship invention, because T1 ships are considered meta 0, thus they have no significant effect of changing the invention chance.
How is that contradicting what I said? =D
Originally by: "Jita Jenn"
Actually, both of those posts are correct. Meta 1 modules have the worst attributes, meta 4 have the best before T2 and faction/officer mods.
Most meta 4 mods are exactly the same as T2 except they have lower fitting requirements, e.g. lower cpu and powergrid needs. There's a nice chart to explain this here...
Linkage
Except as you pointed out yourself, they're not a meter for how good a module is. Even less so since there are plenty of modules where other parts differ such as fitting and when it comes to officer/faction modules it's even worse.
Basically what's wrong is calling something non-linear and flawed a meter for something. The second number of a digital clock doesn't indicate hours even if it happens to do so every now and then. Parrots, commence!
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.23 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah Actually neither of the above is correct.
Meta is supposed to be rarity of an item and the only real effect of it for invention. That said, higher meta levels tend to be better but not necessarily, in fact it's a very common sight to see meta 4 items being better than meta 5(tech 2).
Generally, if you have a keen eye and read the attributes it's a useless figure for anything but invention.
No one is correct!!111oNeeonene!
...'Cept NoNah, who is 100% correct.
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Dray
Caldari The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:01:00 -
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I'm sure I heard that the higher the meta level the more its affected by overheating, for example you'll get more overheating out of a t1 module than a t2 module.
This would need confirmation but I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere.
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honey bunchetta
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: honey bunchetta on 23/04/2009 08:08:44
Ok but what is "meta" short for?.
Is it a abreviation for "material" (IE: "material level") or is it short for summat else?, i know its not quite exact but then neither is the way ppl use "med" when they refer to "mid" or middle slots.
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Pearre Dash
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Pearre Dash on 23/04/2009 08:14:19
Originally by: Amish Juggernaut Actually, none of the above are correct.
Meta level starts at 0, with examples of meta level 0 being T1 ships. Like the poster above said, sometimes meta 4 mods are better than T2 or meta 5. One good example is the 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates (meta 4) have easier fitting requirements and better stats than the T2 1600mm plates (meta 5.)
Bull****.
T2 1600 plates give 3 more HP than RRT's.
Quote: Ok but what is "meta" short for?.
Look in a dictionary. Actually, I'll do it for you:
eta- 1. a prefix appearing in loanwords from Greek, with the meanings ôafter,ö ôalong with,ö ôbeyond,ö ôamong,ö ôbehind,ö and productive in English on the Greek model: metacarpus; metagenesis; metalinguistics.
The meaning here being "among" and "along with".
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Ninjitsuki
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: honey bunchetta Ok but what is "meta" short for?.
Meta
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Amish Juggernaut
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Research
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Posted - 2009.04.24 06:40:00 -
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Actually....
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Amitious Turkey
Gallente Ammo Tech Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.24 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Amish Juggernaut Actually....
lol >.< (\_/) (O.o) (> <) The writer of the article did not quote himself- Cortes |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.24 08:45:00 -
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Meta 0-4 actually kind of is a measure of how good an item is despite what's meant to be.
Meta 4 is best named.
Meta 5 is T2.
In some cases it's better (either unquestionably better stats or an extra skill giving a bonus). In some cases it's the same, in some cases it's worse (T2 1600 plate more weight than T1) or the same with worse fitting.
Then above Meta 5 it's faction or storyline, deadspace, officer.
Generally the higher the meta the more expensive an item is going to be.
The lowest end faction is often roughyly = T2 with easier fitting.
It's not always better though. Some faction stuff trades off one attribute for another. RF / Domination armour hardeners for example have very low cap use.
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