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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.27 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Players will be able to get construction components through other ways in Shiva. Not dropping any names, but they the first letter is POS.
And no, the current prices on inties are not due to profiteering alone, it's the components. But take a look at coverts etc. That's profiteering. It always happens in the beginnig. If it continues after all the bp's are seeded, it's supply/demand and supply of ingredients that cause it.
We're fixing ingredients.
glad to hear that, maybe shiva will get goodÖ
but atm execpt interecptors no new ship justifice their insane price Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.27 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Players will be able to get construction components through other ways in Shiva. Not dropping any names, but they the first letter is POS.
And no, the current prices on inties are not due to profiteering alone, it's the components. But take a look at coverts etc. That's profiteering. It always happens in the beginnig. If it continues after all the bp's are seeded, it's supply/demand and supply of ingredients that cause it.
We're fixing ingredients.
glad to hear that, maybe shiva will get goodÖ
but atm execpt interecptors no new ship justifice their insane price Wanna fly with me?
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
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Def Antares
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Would really love to test it, but chaos is down / disconnected from the internet since days, or is it just me?
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Def Antares
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Would really love to test it, but chaos is down / disconnected from the internet since days, or is it just me?
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:16:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Arud
Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
I hadn't thought about that. But ya know, listening to you and acting on it might hurt myself
Sorry. But a very good idea indeed, but this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |
Oveur
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Arud
Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
I hadn't thought about that. But ya know, listening to you and acting on it might hurt myself
Sorry. But a very good idea indeed, but this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |
Meridius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
Please do not nerf EW
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
Please do not nerf EW
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Oveur this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
Please do not nerf EW
I think they should nerf EW and make it random ................. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.27 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Oveur this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
Please do not nerf EW
I think they should nerf EW and make it random ................. |
Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:07:00 -
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Re a few comments about taking the support ships out first? In the case of warping in to a fight, I'd let the combat vessels go in first, then warp in the support ships at max range from them. If you get it right, youre on the far side of your own ships i.e. the distance between your support ships and the enemy is your max targeting range plus the distance from your own combat ships to the enemy - so you may actually be well outside the opposing fleets targeting / combat range.
Of course they can move into range, but that takes time and during that time theyre taking punishment.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:07:00 -
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Re a few comments about taking the support ships out first? In the case of warping in to a fight, I'd let the combat vessels go in first, then warp in the support ships at max range from them. If you get it right, youre on the far side of your own ships i.e. the distance between your support ships and the enemy is your max targeting range plus the distance from your own combat ships to the enemy - so you may actually be well outside the opposing fleets targeting / combat range.
Of course they can move into range, but that takes time and during that time theyre taking punishment.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Celt Eireson Re a few comments about taking the support ships out first? In the case of warping in to a fight, I'd let the combat vessels go in first, then warp in the support ships at max range from them. If you get it right, youre on the far side of your own ships i.e. the distance between your support ships and the enemy is your max targeting range plus the distance from your own combat ships to the enemy - so you may actually be well outside the opposing fleets targeting / combat range.
Of course they can move into range, but that takes time and during that time theyre taking punishment.
Or your fighting ships warp to the opposite side of the gate gankers and you warp right into them Uh oh....
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Celt Eireson Re a few comments about taking the support ships out first? In the case of warping in to a fight, I'd let the combat vessels go in first, then warp in the support ships at max range from them. If you get it right, youre on the far side of your own ships i.e. the distance between your support ships and the enemy is your max targeting range plus the distance from your own combat ships to the enemy - so you may actually be well outside the opposing fleets targeting / combat range.
Of course they can move into range, but that takes time and during that time theyre taking punishment.
Or your fighting ships warp to the opposite side of the gate gankers and you warp right into them Uh oh....
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:40:00 -
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Hmmm I think someone once said that battle plans last right up to the minute battle actually starts
True, you could be that unlucky in which case your support ships are gonna be history in fairly short order.
But its the only way I see them surving by trying to position them as far away from the enemy as possible, close enough to just be in range of your own ships but far enough that targeting / weapons range becomes an issue if the enemy tries to target the support ship.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:40:00 -
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Hmmm I think someone once said that battle plans last right up to the minute battle actually starts
True, you could be that unlucky in which case your support ships are gonna be history in fairly short order.
But its the only way I see them surving by trying to position them as far away from the enemy as possible, close enough to just be in range of your own ships but far enough that targeting / weapons range becomes an issue if the enemy tries to target the support ship.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Arud
Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
I hadn't thought about that. But ya know, listening to you and acting on it might hurt myself
Sorry. But a very good idea indeed, but this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
hahah cant have everything, just keep in your big bucket of player ideas when the time comes
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.27 20:53:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Arud
Originally by: Oveur Wow. I have two things to say.
1. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
2. You havent seen the bonuses yet, they are not in the description yet.
Sidenote. An Armageddon + 2 supports took down 3 Ravens just know on Chaos. Well, the Ravens didn't figure out to try to take out the supports first, but still
Also on the "ooh CCP are so lazy they dont wanna make new models" stuff, all Elite (Tech Level 2) ships are updgraded version of their Tech Level 1 ships. I have stated this countless times. Has nothing to do with "lazyness", it's intentional. Tech Level 2 Punisher a whole new ship? Don't make very much sense to me. New ships come with Shiva, 12 of them to be exact.
Oh, one more thing. Did I mention that you havent seen the bonuses yet?
Cruz posted the bonuses on the previous page, unless they are wrong. But they do seem very impressive
any chance of a remote warp core stab module for these ships only?
I hadn't thought about that. But ya know, listening to you and acting on it might hurt myself
Sorry. But a very good idea indeed, but this wouldn't happen until after an EW overhaul if at all. Warp scrambling is far to "absolute" now to do this.
hahah cant have everything, just keep in your big bucket of player ideas when the time comes
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.08.27 23:10:00 -
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Jad i cant belive you havent got sig analysis 5
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.08.27 23:10:00 -
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Jad i cant belive you havent got sig analysis 5
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.27 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns Jad i cant belive you havent got sig analysis 5
well i have, trained it back during flying my mighty bb Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.27 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns Jad i cant belive you havent got sig analysis 5
well i have, trained it back during flying my mighty bb Wanna fly with me?
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Aboath Greydroggen
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Posted - 2004.08.28 01:58:00 -
[295]
/seriously wants to fly the Oneiros.
/heads of to poke his Gallente Starship engenering agent
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Aboath Greydroggen
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Posted - 2004.08.28 01:58:00 -
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/seriously wants to fly the Oneiros.
/heads of to poke his Gallente Starship engenering agent
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.08.28 02:30:00 -
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Quote: 12 new ships? Sweet! 4 destroyers and 4 battlecruisers. What are the remaining 4?
Titans
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.08.28 02:30:00 -
[298]
Quote: 12 new ships? Sweet! 4 destroyers and 4 battlecruisers. What are the remaining 4?
Titans
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.28 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: agentsmitty
Quote: 12 new ships? Sweet! 4 destroyers and 4 battlecruisers. What are the remaining 4?
Titans
now that would be a surprise
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.08.28 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: agentsmitty
Quote: 12 new ships? Sweet! 4 destroyers and 4 battlecruisers. What are the remaining 4?
Titans
now that would be a surprise
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