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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:22:00 -
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Yo
IÆm not the sharpest tool in the box. IÆve never denied it.
And this sovereignty mechanics stuff is hard. So IÆm asking for help.
ThereÆs this new alliance. Band of Brother Reloaded. Yeah, I know thereÆs a lot of smack talk on these boards about them, but IÆve got a serious question so IÆm starting a new thread. No dumb replies please.
These guys began today. But they have sov 3 in six systems in Period Basis and three in Querious.
HowÆd that happen? I thought it took a bit longer than that.
Also, what happens if these guys have towers in other systems which are potentially claiming sovereignty (where other alliances currently have more towers claiming sov). Does their sov claim begin today, or is it backdated somehow?
Guys, I know we like to smack each other on these boards. Please keep that to other threads and help a confused newb understand whatÆs going on.
Thanks in advance. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point |
destinationZERO
Minmatar Pain Management Services
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: destinationZERO on 23/03/2009 19:23:57 hey look, another thread.
edit : check alliance creation date
"started today"
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Fulmen
Amarr Failed Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:25:00 -
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tl;dr
whaa, whaa, whaa....beaver, whaa! |
Hertford
Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: destinationZERO Edited by: destinationZERO on 23/03/2009 19:23:57 hey look, another thread.
edit : check alliance creation date
"started today"
Man, those three weeks needed for Sov 3 just flew by. |
Yonker
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:33:00 -
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CCP gave them sov 3 in 9 systems (and a billion isk to re-name themselves).
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Azeneth Mannerheim
Amarr The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:33:00 -
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Lol, if you rightclick and do Show info they still show up as Kengoku even thou you search for and find Band of brothers reload. Kinda a hack and slash job, perhaps it was never ment that alliance names were gonna be changed :I
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Yonker
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:35:00 -
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Its because they still have the same Alliance ID and some of the information is cached.
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Azeneth Mannerheim
Amarr The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Azeneth Mannerheim on 23/03/2009 19:42:16
Originally by: Yonker Its because they still have the same Alliance ID and some of the information is cached.
So I will have to clear out the "cache" for the correct name to show? How do I do that coz that is just stupid.
Also will I have to do this from time to time incase other alliances gets their name changed?
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Etien Aldragoran
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:41:00 -
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/gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;K4-RFZ /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;ZU-MS3 /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;DG-L7S /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;0OTX-J /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;F2OY-X /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;I6M-9U /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;RJ3H-0 /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;JZL-VB /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;E-DOF2
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Slinktress
Gallente legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:47:00 -
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Completely honest thoughts:
If Goons had released the Band of Brothers name after the "joke" was finished, possibly things would have gone through sov timers the way you are thinking here.
Are Goons wishing to rename their alliance for some good reason? Do you have merchandise, forums, events, magazine articles and such things that might need redoing? That might be tough if you do want a new name, since not only on MMO sites do we see Goons advertising for EVE but independent retail sites too.
If Goons do want to change their name though, I don't know anyone that would complain.
I think EVE entered new territory with all of this, and the staff is doing their best to deal fairly without adverse affects in the game, such as giving the old name, space etc. back would have done.
Best wishes o/
~*~Slinktress~*~ |
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C4w3
Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Etien Aldragoran /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;K4-RFZ /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;ZU-MS3 /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;DG-L7S /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;0OTX-J /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;F2OY-X /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;I6M-9U /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;RJ3H-0 /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;JZL-VB /gmtoolbox -sov [.BoB.]:3;E-DOF2
OMG the dev haxploit .... go0nalisous . ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
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Zangert
Gallente Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Slinktress Completely honest thoughts:
If Goons had released the Band of Brothers name after the "joke" was finished, possibly things would have gone through sov timers the way you are thinking here.
Are Goons wishing to rename their alliance for some good reason? Do you have merchandise, forums, events, magazine articles and such things that might need redoing? That might be tough if you do want a new name, since not only on MMO sites do we see Goons advertising for EVE but independent retail sites too.
If Goons do want to change their name though, I don't know anyone that would complain.
I think EVE entered new territory with all of this, and the staff is doing their best to deal fairly without adverse affects in the game, such as giving the old name, space etc. back would have done.
Best wishes o/
but then why did they pick Kenzoku after being disbanded instead of a BoB version?
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Julian Shran
Amarr Elderan Navy SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:57:00 -
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What the crap?!?
How in all of EVE did Concord allow the renaming of an alliance and allow them to retain their SOV as though it was started in the past?!?
Only could the illustrious folks of the BoB empire find the resources to bribe Concord into this. This WAS one of the most interesting stories to hit EVE in years and they frigged it up. Now it is nothing more than an emorage whinefest for almost two months that allowed them to gain the good graces once again, thus giving them a significant advantage over all other Capsuleers.
Renaming has never been allowed and why now?
This needs to be answered by the powers that be. Yarr!!
(and yes I DO like my hat :P... ) |
Red Thunder
Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:58:00 -
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kenzoku was an alt alliance they quickly piled into while they got their **** together
Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines |
WhiteTigersGod
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:59:00 -
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This is so F**ked up. As a paying customer I am outraged at the favoritism given to BOB/Kenny/BOBR.
I demand as a paying customer that their sov be removed and alliance dissolved.
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O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:00:00 -
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You're clearly not familiar with section 56.b of the Name Changing Policy v1.12
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Lizhia Birath
Minmatar Rogue Industrial Group The Fifth Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lizhia Birath on 23/03/2009 20:04:21
Originally by: Zangert
Originally by: Slinktress Completely honest thoughts:
If Goons had released the Band of Brothers name after the "joke" was finished, possibly things would have gone through sov timers the way you are thinking here.
Are Goons wishing to rename their alliance for some good reason? Do you have merchandise, forums, events, magazine articles and such things that might need redoing? That might be tough if you do want a new name, since not only on MMO sites do we see Goons advertising for EVE but independent retail sites too.
If Goons do want to change their name though, I don't know anyone that would complain.
I think EVE entered new territory with all of this, and the staff is doing their best to deal fairly without adverse affects in the game, such as giving the old name, space etc. back would have done.
Best wishes o/
but then why did they pick Kenzoku after being disbanded instead of a BoB version?
Didnt Ken have towers claiming in a few systems allready? Perhaps that was one of the reasons, quicker sov in a few systems. I dont remember exactly what the deal was. But why care about what alliance name you choose, since it can be changed later on.
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Vladic Ka
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:09:00 -
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This is indeed a messy situation. They got instant sov in a lot of systems as soon as they went to a industrial alliance named kenny. Now they changed that alliance name without a sov reset. Nice one CCP.
Ah well. At least my sig is true.
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Ryoken McKeon
Caldari Galactic Defence Syndicate Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:11:00 -
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Stupid thing to ***** about imo.
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Lee Bian
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Slinktress Completely honest thoughts:
If Goons had released the Band of Brothers name after the "joke" was finished, possibly things would have gone through sov timers the way you are thinking here.
Are Goons wishing to rename their alliance for some good reason? Do you have merchandise, forums, events, magazine articles and such things that might need redoing? That might be tough if you do want a new name, since not only on MMO sites do we see Goons advertising for EVE but independent retail sites too.
If Goons do want to change their name though, I don't know anyone that would complain.
I think EVE entered new territory with all of this, and the staff is doing their best to deal fairly without adverse affects in the game, such as giving the old name, space etc. back would have done.
Best wishes o/
why would they infringe on hbo's intellectual property like that?
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torN Deception
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:20:00 -
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I predict that this will go as well for Kenny/Beaver as it did last time they got caught accepting CCP favoritism. |
Lizhia Birath
Minmatar Rogue Industrial Group The Fifth Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoken McKeon Stupid thing to ***** about imo.
I think the big deal is that most if not all previous attempts by anybody to have their characters name, their corp name and perhaps their alliance name changed, especially if the new name closely resembles a allready excisting entity in eve has been rejected (unless its offensive then you get to be called Caldari citizen 19943924843980 or something). In this case the, from the delve II campaign famous goonswarm corp Band of brothers corporation(name taken from a alliance which disbanded itself and claimed they didnt want the name, all in some ISD article) sounds very much like Band of brothers REALOADED. Some people might be confused by the similarities and the new alliance might even try to ride on the fame of the corporation and scam people who are not careful.
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lizhia Birath
Didnt Ken have towers claiming in a few systems allready? Perhaps that was one of the reasons, quicker sov in a few systems. I dont remember exactly what the deal was. But why care about what alliance name you choose, since it can be changed later on.
Yo, I thought that might be it, but no, you can't change the name of your alliance. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point |
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CCP Mitnal
Minmatar C C P
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Posted - 2009.03.23 21:08:00 -
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Locked.
Please continue this discussion here or here.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email |
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