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Bo'Tox
Amarr Arkor Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.22 22:27:00 -
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Yes. if the system isnt supposed to work a certain way then why do they give you the option to use it that way???
Just pop up a "Dont do that again" message.
I had Med energy Turret V training (less than 24 hours) and openned skill list and selected INJECT to insert Small Energy Turret V.
Openned skill QUEUE and it showed everything as OK. - THERRE IS NO APPLY BUTTON WHEN IT IS INJECTED!
Logged in 20 hours later to find no skill training. Small Energy Turret V didnt start off. Petitioned it. If your supposed to stop all currebntly training skills to INJECT/insert/etc other skills then it shoul dpop up a message saying to Pause skill first.....
System is bugged. - I've been watching these posts since Apoc came out and Unless it happens to you, you have no idea how much it ****es you off!
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Omaku Toba
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Posted - 2009.03.22 22:31:00 -
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I've used it solidly since the patch and never had any problems with it. I can only assume that if you are running into problems on a common basis then you are doing something wrong.
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RaphKaGR
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Posted - 2009.03.22 22:45:00 -
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IS CCP LISTENING ? ...... HELLOOOOOO ???.
SIGNED
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.22 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Omaku Toba I've used it solidly since the patch and never had any problems with it.
Good for you. How is this relevant? Quote: I can only assume that if you are running into problems on a common basis then you are doing something wrong.
If that's all you can assume (and let's stay away from the obvious joke), then you don't have much in the way of imagination.
That said, what would you assume is wrong with the single command "add skill to queue"? How can you do something wrong when all you can do is select this one option? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Star's Dust Industrie
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Posted - 2009.03.22 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rancideous I just love queuing up a skill to change over night only to find in the morning the skill queue did not start the next skill and I've lost nights worth of training time. This has happened MANY times to me now. CCP, how could you screw up the skill queue system so badly? After two weeks and there is still no patch to fix the skill queue issues?
*clic* apply.... Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) > soon(tm) \o/
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.03.22 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Beckoner Venhatha Generally if you do the following
Quote: 1. add Skills to Queue 2. Click Pause 3. Click Apply
You won't have any problems.
Not clicking Pause (especially if you have a different skill at the head of the training queue to that which you are currently training) may result in Fail
Sorry, dude. This only works on solstice.
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Fi Vantage
Minmatar New Ligion
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Posted - 2009.03.23 00:12:00 -
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CCP have said that they reimburse skills lost due to bugs if you petition them.
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Metlec
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:52:00 -
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Click apply?
If I'm in the main skill sheet and I click "add to end of queue" on a skill, surely this means I want it to happen and I wasn't just pretending. You shouldn't need to click apply.
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Spurty
Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Petition & bug report.
Its been reported, they know about it.
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Evthron Macyntire
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Posted - 2009.03.23 01:59:00 -
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The Que works fine for me. I quite enjoy waking up in the morning and seeing 12 new skills completed. I assume you guys are forgetting to hit apply before you close the que. It helps sometimes to just pause training and then clear the queue and start over if you lag occasionally.
For the people that can't figure out how to work the 3 buttons in the queue, PEBKAC. ------------------------------ Sigs like this. |
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Psionist
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:58:00 -
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Just adding my voice to the rabble here.
I've been using the queue since patch day and it has failed only once. That day I changed the entire skill queue from one set of skills to another.
So my skill queue faithfully finished training the first skill in the new queue, and then the entire thing reverted back to the old queue.
Worked fine after I deleted all skills, hit apply, closed, opened, entered new skills.
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Rancideous
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Posted - 2009.03.23 06:20:00 -
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This bug has nothing to do with hitting apply or not. It wont auto fire off some skills set in stone in the queue and there is no pattern that I can see to the issue.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Evthron Macyntire It helps sometimes to just pause training and then clear the queue and start over if you lag occasionally.
So you agree that it's bugged, then? Good.
Quote: For the people that can't figure out how to work the 3 buttons in the queue, PEBKAC.
…except that that's not the issue here, which you would have known if you had read the thread. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Irma Bondis
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Irma Bondis on 23/03/2009 12:18:09 I used the skill queue system well pretty much every day since it came out without any problems. If it doesn't work for you why on earth do you keep counting on it to work? It fails once thats sad, it fails twice thats bad but when it fails for a third time you are just dumb.
Oh, and the thing you are looking for is called the petition system, not the forums. I know in both you can type and stuff but their purpose is different. This is not the way to raise a complaint... but then again lookin gat how often you tried to use the skill queue while konwing it doesn't work for you...
I wish CCP banned people for atemtping to raise petitions on the forums.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:24:00 -
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I lost 4 days of training the weekend befpre St. Patrick's Day because I forgot to hit the apply button. I did not come and complain about it.
Take responsibility for your screw ups.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:32:00 -
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I have yet to experience any issues with the queue on my 4 accounts. I always use the skillqueue window and don't pause any skills, just add/remove/rearrange and then hit apply.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Irma Bondis Oh, and the thing you are looking for is called the petition system, not the forums. I know in both you can type and stuff but their purpose is different. This is not the way to raise a complaint... but then again lookin gat how often you tried to use the skill queue while konwing it doesn't work for you...
Actually, if you look at the OP, it's not really a petition matter: Quote: CCP, how could you screw up the skill queue system so badly? After two weeks and there is still no patch to fix the skill queue issues?
Granted, the first question is rather troll:y, but the second is very standard forum fare: a question to the devs about when we can expect a solution to an obviously, repeatedly reported, broken and bugged system. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Omaku Toba I've used it solidly since the patch and never had any problems with it.
Good for you. How is this relevant? Quote: I can only assume that if you are running into problems on a common basis then you are doing something wrong.
If that's all you can assume (and let's stay away from the obvious joke), then you don't have much in the way of imagination.
That said, what would you assume is wrong with the single command "add skill to queue"? How can you do something wrong when all you can do is select this one option?
It doesnt say add skill to queue and apply? |
Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:51:00 -
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For the record, it has also failed for me on numerous occasions. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: Tippia That said, what would you assume is wrong with the single command "add skill to queue"? How can you do something wrong when all you can do is select this one option?
It doesnt say add skill to queue and apply?
If you had to open up the skill queue in order to apply the addition, then what's the purpose of having the command to begin with? |
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: Tippia That said, what would you assume is wrong with the single command "add skill to queue"? How can you do something wrong when all you can do is select this one option?
It doesnt say add skill to queue and apply?
If you had to open up the skill queue in order to apply the addition, then what's the purpose of having the command to begin with?
i dunno ask ccp a lot of there stuff doesnt make sense. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII i dunno ask ccp a lot of there stuff doesnt make sense.
I kind of think that's what the OP is doing… |
Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII i dunno ask ccp a lot of there stuff doesnt make sense.
I kind of think that's what the OP is doingà
From the lack of response from ccp regarding anything to do with the skillqueue i dont think they have a clue how it works either |
Mjolnirsmith
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:10:00 -
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the sarcastic "click reply" responses that are so quick to jump on the assumption that players are doing it wrong,
1. commit a logical fallacy. If I see a black cow, that does not mean all cows are black.
2. violate the principle of charity. It is reasonable to assume that a person may know what they are talking about or may have good reasons for believing what they say. That does not always turn out to be the case, but that gets figured out in discourse. When you assume otherwise, the ignorance is yours.
The skill system failed on me. I have petitioned ccp and I am further posting in this thread to call attention to the issue. I had many skills in a row that did train as they should have, and then the very last one did not start to train.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:14:00 -
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Lost almost 3 days on Jump Fuel Efficiency IV (which has now reverted back to 3). Petition sent, awaiting response...
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mjolnirsmith the sarcastic "click reply" responses that are so quick to jump on the assumption that players are doing it wrong,
1. commit a logical fallacy. If I see a black cow, that does not mean all cows are black.
2. violate the principle of charity. It is reasonable to assume that a person may know what they are talking about or may have good reasons for believing what they say. That does not always turn out to be the case, but that gets figured out in discourse. When you assume otherwise, the ignorance is yours.
The skill system failed on me. I have petitioned ccp and I am further posting in this thread to call attention to the issue. I had many skills in a row that did train as they should have, and then the very last one did not start to train.
Are all black cows black though?
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Max Scheler
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:16:00 -
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I lined up a bunch of skills. I clicked apply. When I logged back in, the last one didn't even start to train. I filed a petition with ccp. Anyone else who has had similar problems should do the same. I have a fellow player who had it fail as well. If the queue just drops out on people when overloaded, or when the last one is a longer skill (even though you can uncheck the '24 hour period box' and actually add that last skill in), then this is a bug. Maybe it worked for you but for a significant number of people it hasn't, even when they do it right.
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Vutamar
Dark Sun Ascending
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:17:00 -
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Yeah been using skill queue since it came out only had issues once and it was my own stupidity. Last night though the bug re-appeared and eve-mon said everything was good too, but the skill never started. Yes I right clicked skill to add to end of queue, yes i then still opened the queue window and clicked apply. Been doing this since my first mistake.
So after reading this post it looks like the skill queue functions like implants? You must pause all skills then add to queue then apply queue. Weird that this was the first time it has happened (since I "thought" I knew how to use the queue). Bugged? OFC NOT LOL . |
Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Max Scheler I lined up a bunch of skills. I clicked apply. When I logged back in, the last one didn't even start to train. I filed a petition with ccp. Anyone else who has had similar problems should do the same. I have a fellow player who had it fail as well. If the queue just drops out on people when overloaded, or when the last one is a longer skill (even though you can uncheck the '24 hour period box' and actually add that last skill in), then this is a bug. Maybe it worked for you but for a significant number of people it hasn't, even when they do it right.
What is right? do you have a letter from ccp telling you the right way? if so share it with everyone else who can't get the skill queue to work. |
Michelle Vega
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Michelle Vega on 23/03/2009 13:28:21 Edited by: Michelle Vega on 23/03/2009 13:27:57
For everyone who thinks the system is bugged - all I can say is you have the ID Ten T bug.
Don't confuse Inject skill with the skill training scheduler. They have nothing in common. They are two completly separate things.
If you right click a skill and add it to the que, you better make damn sure first that the order of the schedule can accomodate your skill. The only time you can safetly use right click and add to que is if you only have one skill training /qued which ends withing 24 hours. If you have 15 skills there then you have to open the que and make sure it is within the 24 hour period.
Rules of thumb (for dummies):
- Always open the skill que and add skills in the ORDER you want them to train. - Always click Apply when you want to finalize your plan. - Don't confuse Inject skill with the training que. - Only right click and add skill to que if your que is not full.
So stop posting it's a bug when the problem is between the computer monitor and the chair. And no, don't say I am wrong or that it is still a bug since you obviously have absolutly no clue how the que is designed to work.
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG - end of story. I'm going to pod everyone who said it was a bug in this thread.
/LOCKED
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