Can someone explain to me how calling someone out for claiming to be hardcore when they are not is claiming to be hardcore yourself? I saw no claims of hardcore, simple pointing out that highseccers who complain about how horrible highsec is on the forums most certainly are not hardcore.

For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".

Maybe become a null bear and mine in space you've conquered and protect? Thats to obvious isn't it.

But - but but that means actual work! Carebears will not assist in the conquering sov part, they will only show up in droves when dead end system and refinery stations are linked with jump bridges. Whatdoyoumean 600M a month sov bill per bridge? Carebears will also happily continue mining when the rest of your alliance is fighting and losing a 10 v 15 ship battle in the next system. Carebears never show up to CTA's either, and if there is a question about "home defence" (ie there are too many reds in the system for them to mine comfortably) they will simply log off, instead of actually helping.

When confronted with this and basically told "help out or else", they will quote the fact that they are industrial toons with no skills. When told that fast tackle is always necessary and it only takes a few hours training to fly a frigate with a warp disruptor and sensor booster, they will go quiet and probably make plans to quit the alliance.

Care-bears are the scourge of EVE. PLEASE do not send them to nullsec, it's hard enough to weed them out here. Let the jihad continue until they realize they have to actually fight for the right to live like everyone else.

You completely miss the point. Perhaps more appropriate would be changing the name "carebear" to "target".

I walk around blindfolded with my hands tied behind my back. I'm so h4rdc0r3 1337 xXxSePhIrOtHxXx ~elite pve~

This.

Also, you've obviously never seen/flown a battlehulk.

Q:Daddy...where does the stuff come from that makes your scary fighting ship?

A: Well...you see...when a man likes a ship...the stork comes...

You are bad and should feel bad. There are many, many MANY more players in hisec than elsewhere. Of course there are more kills.
Come back with some per-capita numbers supporting your claim and I might listen to you.
Also, this is a stupid thread.

You have plenty of tools to defend yourself. You just chose not to.

Maybe become a null bear and mine in space you've conquered and protect? Thats to obvious isn't it.

This thread pleases me.

So many children upset that the hi-sec players were the tuff gaiz all along.

It's in my sig line.

another fav in response to all that goon 'blustering' a few weeks ago:


"CareBears don't care so much they don't come to your space, and they don't harass you, and indeed they don't even fight back. That is the ultimate don't care and there isn't anything you can do, short of dying of starvation, next to a pack of Cheetos, that will demostrate a don't care level beyond that of the CareBear."

Ways to defend yourself without actually doing anything at all 101

Don't haul or fly what you can't afford to lose, getting ganked is a risk you accept when you hit undock, carebear or not.

If you can't afford to lose it, freight it with someone like redfrog or pushx, it gets ganked you keep the collateral

Insure your mission ships and haulers, any financial payback reduces the hit on your wallet.

Pimp fits are the equivalent to painting a target on your back, the man in his Artybaddon or Tornado loves your pimp fit tengus, they go squish and drop good loot.

If war decced, don't carry on as normal , you'll probably have 3 choices if crimewatch gets updated, hire mercs, fight them yourself with some allies, blueball the aggressor by playing on an out of corp alt until he gets bored.

If you're a miner, fly a retriever for the next month, they're cheaper than hulks, mine in a battleship whatever, just don't mine in an untanked max yield hulk, it's going to die.

I'm a hisec trader/missioner I follow the above and have rarely been popped unless I've done something daft. like accidentally APing into losec, never used the damn thing since.

Chances that 90% of the next months whine threads come from people that can't follow simple rules? 100%

.....and you expect to be taken seriously...........................

Condensed. Lets make high sec more like low sec and null sec because the game is booming out there and that will fix EVE.

I actually remember when low-sec WAS booming. Unfortunately, we pounced on everything that moved and the prey either moved on, quit or went to where they got the most protection; big null-sec alliances.

It's a shame that the 'leet guys in thread don't understand the concept of conservation. Soon we will have over-fished hi-sec. It might take longer but from the looks of the average poster's mentality, it is coming nonetheless

ORE Fleet Doctrine are Win, dude.

battlehulks, warcas, hotdrop rorqs, deathskiffs, these all really exist. Dude in my alliance uses a skiff to take down neuts all the time.

Its meant as a joke, but it works pretty well.

I actually remember when low-sec WAS booming. Unfortunately, we pounced on everything that moved and the prey either moved on, quit or went to where they got the most protection; big null-sec alliances.

Condensed. Lets make high sec more like low sec and null sec because the game is booming out there and that will fix EVE.

Ah, most protection as in "nullsec is actually less risky than high, so high should have more income" ?

I'm not entirely sure where you're going with that? Those aren't suggestions to make Hi-sec more like Lo-sec, they're more common sense than anything, the first one is the most bandied about phrase in Eve, after HTFU obviously.

They're more of a call to keep Hi-sec as it is, the system works you just have to be aware of what's going on & where it's happening. After that it's just a matter of temporarily adapting to what others are doing. If someone's put all their eggs in one basket or can't/won't adapt then sorry can't help, should have diversified into other related activities.

Q, if ducks had forums, would they post threads like these when hunting season opens?

Player driven, after all.

One could also say that of the famine in Ethopia...

Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".

........ being so apathetic you wont retaliate at the time

Q:Daddy...where does the stuff come from that makes your scary fighting ship?

A: Well...you see...when a man likes a ship...the stork comes...

You go chase after fleeing capsules that are already 4 jumps ahead back to null or wherever to re-arm.

You are only revealing your own stupidity.