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David Grogan
Gallente The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2009.03.15 21:52:00 -
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guys (especially those with alts) which is more important?
fancy graphics that make your pc look ****
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stability and playability at the expense of fancy graphics SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Drew Blaze
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Posted - 2009.03.15 21:54:00 -
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This wont happen.. even though i might want Classic back.. no use trying to get it back.
Its very simple.. They have more subscribers than they did before expansion. Its very simple.. They have more active users online than they did before expansion.
Say goodbye to Classic.. as no one will ever see it again..
Sorry..
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Doublewhopper
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:26:00 -
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Since the SM2.0 is far too heavy on some effects, especially warping and the POS-shields, i will gladly sign this petition...
Unless CCP will go ahead and will allow to further turn down the settings...
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David Grogan
Gallente The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:51:00 -
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seriously
new client is bugged to death
i have a semi ok gcard but its hitting overheat at ultra low settings ........... old premium quantum rise client ran perfectly at full detail
i get silly bugs in space when i try activate modules such as scotty is a fat slow ****er and cant be arsed to move your **** from one ship to another....wft i didnt ask the ****er to move **** i asked my ship to activate a module
the sound simply is an epic fail
sack that gob****e in charge of sound effect
seriously i got 4 acs and i cant run any of em with stability
3 weeks til i gotta renew the gtc if not sorted i pull all 4 acs
NO u cant have my stuff ......... if i pull all 4 acs ill share my stuff with my corp members then ill go play stargate online
SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Elysarian
Minmatar dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:55:00 -
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Another of these threads?
How many times do you people need to be told that Classic is dead?
It's not "stunned", it's not "sleeping", it's not "pining for the fjiords"...
Classic's passed on! This client is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet it's maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-CLIENT!!
To parrot-phrase. ===================================== It smells of spoon! ===================================== |
David Grogan
Gallente The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian Edited by: Elysarian on 15/03/2009 22:56:37 Another of these threads?
How many times do you people need to be told that Classic is dead?
It's not "stunned", it's not "sleeping", it's not "pining for the fjiords"...
Classic's passed on! This client is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet it's maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! It's metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-CLIENT!!
To parrot-phrase.
And: there's a much higher chance that the new client will have the bugs fixed quicker than "old" premium was as the Dev's don't have to bugger around with classic anymore.
Apocrypha is less than a week old, of course there are bugs.
ill gladly accept a new client provided it actually works without killing my hardware SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Drew Blaze
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Elysarian
How many times do you people need to be told that Classic is dead?
You must be in bed with CCP, you cant get off their nuts.
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Elysarian
Minmatar dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Drew Blaze
Originally by: Elysarian
How many times do you people need to be told that Classic is dead?
You must be in bed with CCP, you cant get off their nuts.
Or...
I accept that Classic isn't coming back and look forward to them having the time and resources to fix the bugs in the "unified" client.
I'm a coder myself - just not for CCP - and I can see why supporting 2 clients (Mac and Windows) is going to be a lot more efficient in the current financial climate than supporting 4 (Mac, Windows Premium, Windows Classic, Linux).
People in forums other than the Linux one seem to forget that it's not just the Windows Classic people who feel abandoned/betrayed here.
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Gone'Postal
Void Engineers
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: David Grogan
ill gladly accept a new client provided it actually works without killing my hardware
Upgrade your hardware and it will.
Classic is dead..
Originally by: masternerdguy
Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
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Elysarian
Minmatar dudetruck corp
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Posted - 2009.03.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: David Grogan
ill gladly accept a new client provided it actually works without killing my hardware
Upgrade your hardware and it will.
Classic is dead..
TBH, if someone has insufficient cooling Eve will still kill the hardware (sometimes).
Problem is that, by default, the client (classic not included) runs full-tilt wherever you are.
You get massive FPS in some places (900+ on some systems just at the login screen) - this should be addressed by CCP imo as it leads to people assuming that Eve is "too much" for their system...
What I'm trying to do (Drew Blaze isn't helping with his flaming of me here) is to educate those who were previously running the CPU-Bound classic client that the "new" Apoc unified client will kick the crap out of their GPU and make it run hot enough to cause a BSOD/shutdown/random reboot/fire unless you change the "Present interval" setting from the default "immediate" (or spank my graphics card hard, I'ma naughty boy) setting to the more conservative ones ("Interval One" works for all who aren't e-peen obsessed with framerates) and/or clean their coolers and/or upgrade their cooling.
60/75/85 (depending on monitor) FPS is plenty to avoid stuttering/"client lag".
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ice sect
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Posted - 2009.03.16 01:26:00 -
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yea...this choice to remove compatibility with 'older' machines and give the only option as the one to get the uber graphics was a bad one.
want the old option back for crappy graphics and a stable, playable game. the current status sucks balls.
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Mal Ferquani
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Posted - 2009.03.16 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mal Ferquani on 16/03/2009 01:33:58 Stimulate the economy [email protected] the computers so you can get out of 1995.
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Nepheraela
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:00:00 -
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i would prefer a stable system with semi-fancy graphics how about that?
Bring back my FPS, i could give all my comp data on how it runs just about everything except this and one other game that just came out but i'm still gonna see the dumbasses join in with no constructive anything only saying 'shut up crybaby's classic is dead' yeah well that's fine but the new client could have done without EVERYTHING they did, maybe 3/4 of what they did with sm 2.0 and their graphics and it would look awesome and be stable
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David Grogan
Gallente The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2009.03.16 03:31:00 -
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my pc is well above the minimum specs yet apoc makes my pc run hot --- crash every 15 - 20 mins ---- qr premium didnt do this --- classic didnt either ---- i hate this new client
and dont say upgrade your hardware cos 1. most people are losing jobs and cant afford to keep upgrading their pcs especially when they are already well over the so called min specs ccp have given the new client
basically i cant play this game anymore meaning i will have no choice but to pull my 4 subscriptions out if its not fixed cos i am certainly not gonna pay for a game i cant play due to bugs
SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Jon Rackham
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Posted - 2009.03.16 03:33:00 -
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Signed . . . (For what it's worth.)
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joodner
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Posted - 2009.03.16 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: David Grogan my pc is well above the minimum specs yet apoc makes my pc run hot --- crash every 15 - 20 mins ---- qr premium didnt do this --- classic didnt either ---- i hate this new client
and dont say upgrade your hardware cos 1. most people are losing jobs and cant afford to keep upgrading their pcs especially when they are already well over the so called min specs ccp have given the new client
basically i cant play this game anymore meaning i will have no choice but to pull my 4 subscriptions out if its not fixed cos i am certainly not gonna pay for a game i cant play due to bugs
Well TBH people that are losing jobs and are in over there heads with debt etc, should not be affected as gaming should be right at the bottom of the list of priorities.
However, that being said it really does come down to a cooling & possible PSU issue. There are many more that are running multi accounts that are not having any issues with overheating.
Have you really really stressed your PC outside of eve and monitored the GPU/CPU temps ? what was the max for both (For CPU all Cores should be at 100% use and run for an hour or so).
below is aksed in another thread, but relavent... Also what size PSU and Brand you running ? OC at all ? if so whats your Vcore @ Stock cooling or aftermarket HS ? DId you fit it ? what thermal paste did you use ? IS it active or passive ? if active have you got the fan in the right direction so the heat blows out the back exaust fan ? How many case fans ?
Tring to help ya, I run 3 x premium clients on a OC 6600 and cpu temps never get over 40C.
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Marenubium
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Posted - 2009.03.16 06:48:00 -
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Signed.
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Tkope
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:12:00 -
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I would love to have classic back for my 2nd account / alt. Who is my hauler / repair drone in missions.
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Kendra Shouw
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:50:00 -
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/signed
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David Grogan
Gallente The Motley Crew
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Posted - 2009.03.16 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: David Grogan on 16/03/2009 13:30:20 my pc specs
amd athlon x2 6000+ at 3.0ghz cpu with stock amd heatpipe heatsink n fan (cpu temps under load averages 60c - idle 48c)
asus m3n h/hdmi motherboard with 8300 hybrid sli chipset using 512mb ram
total ram is 3gb corsair xms 2 pc6400 ram (soon to be going up to 6gb once the 4gb arrives
vista x64 ultimate
xfx geforce 8500gt sli pcie gcard with 512mb onboard ram fan cooled average temp at idle 45c - load 65c
trust psu 570w xblade atx case with 1x rear case fan 1x side case fan and 1x hard drive fan
according to gpu-z both gpus support sm 4.0
SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
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Assimil8r
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:13:00 -
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/signed, /signed and triple-/signed
@David Grogan: that CPU temperature looks a bit high, try checking if the cooler is mounted correctly or (preferably) buy a better one.
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DARTHxFREE
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:09:00 -
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Classic is gone, but /sign to giveing a better "lite" /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Nexus X
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:12:00 -
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/signed..
Even if I dont go lower than 140 fps in combat I still prefer the classic version as it runs smoother and I really dont care if I can see how nice a ship looks like.
If not the good old Classic then give us a opportunity to disable more of this graphics for a smoother gameplay.
As for the bugs: The bugs are there in every new pacth and is sometimes sorted out and sometimes not so I hope they fix the worst of them. |
Turgun
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Posted - 2009.03.18 14:12:00 -
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/me signed
my lap tops even slower and i have no idea how new graphics will handle in a fleet fight....
Also, fancy graphics are nice an all but tbh i only see them when i zoom into my ship so whats the point? besides the game looked awesome before anyway
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