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kangwo
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:19:00 -
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i want to know what is the best non mineing barge ship , which i can modify to mine and haul tons for
im minatar..and i made an alt for just for mineing
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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.10 00:44:00 -
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[Rokh, Omnomnomnom] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
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Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
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Mining Drone II x5
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2009.03.10 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 10/03/2009 02:14:23
Originally by: kangwo i want to know what is the best non mineing barge ship , which i can modify to mine and haul tons for
im minatar..and i made an alt for just for mineing
For minny: Burst( frig)> Scythe( Cruiser)> Retriever(mining barge)> Hulk(Exhumer)
Dont mine in a BS on a miner toon its a waste of time. The only way i could see it as being useful is if you had to tank BS size rats. And a hulk can tank most rats.Other than that maybe as an upgrade from retriever but still its a waste.
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kelisin
Gallente Death's Phalanx
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Posted - 2009.03.10 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: kangwo i want to know what is the best non mineing barge ship , which i can modify to mine and haul tons for
im minatar..and i made an alt for just for mineing
For minny: Burst( frig)> Scythe( Cruiser)> Retriever(mining barge)> Hulk(Exhumer)
Dont mine in a BS on a miner toon its a waste of time. The only was i could see it as being useful is if you had to tank BS size rats. And a hulk can tank most rats.Other than that maybe as an upgrade from retriever but still its a waste.
You underestimate the mining battleship.
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Allenbe
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Posted - 2009.03.10 15:53:00 -
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Just go straight to a covetor. It'll blow any BS out of the water yield wise. IF this alt is only for mining there's no reason not too.
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sukmanobov
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Allenbe Just go straight to a covetor. It'll blow any BS out of the water yield wise. IF this alt is only for mining there's no reason not too.
Ever used a maelstrom? 8 T2 mining lasers, 5 T2 mining drones. silly small Cargo bay tho.
Enough drone bay to hold 5 Hob II if npc get in your way too.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: kelisin
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: kangwo i want to know what is the best non mineing barge ship , which i can modify to mine and haul tons for
im minatar..and i made an alt for just for mineing
For minny: Burst( frig)> Scythe( Cruiser)> Retriever(mining barge)> Hulk(Exhumer)
Dont mine in a BS on a miner toon its a waste of time. The only was i could see it as being useful is if you had to tank BS size rats. And a hulk can tank most rats.Other than that maybe as an upgrade from retriever but still its a waste.
You underestimate the mining battleship.
No....No I dont, A bs is inferior to a Exhumer at mining. Though maybe a bit less skill intensive, of course those skills needed for the more intensive exhumer do happen to be mining skills which you would probably want on a mining toon. A rokh can only mine 2/3 or so as much as a hulk
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Zxenis
Caldari M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.03.10 16:59:00 -
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if alt is just for mining, going the mining barge then exhumer route is prob the best way to go.
if you want to pvp/pve with this alt later and want to mine in the meantime for isk. BS mining all the way.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:10:00 -
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A battleship is inferior to an exhumer (read Hulk) at mining, yes. However, you can get a surprisingly large yield from a battleship, especially if you've trained up to use the Modulated Deep Core Miner IIs with T2 crystals. The big drawbacks are expense and a really small cargo hold.
On the whole, I agree. If you're going to be a miner, train for barges. It'll take a little longer (maybe a week or two at most) but it'll definitely be worth it. However, if you're going to mine as well as do other things, you can be quite respectable in a battleship. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 10/03/2009 17:23:25 Here( all level 5 this is what fits with no tank and maxing CPU):
[Hulk, New Setup 1] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II
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Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
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Mines 1436m3/ min cost 120 mil for the ship. the required skills are actually for mining. And has a 8000 m3 cargohold
[Rokh, mining rokh] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Co-Processor II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade I
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Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
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mines 1105 m3/min( need implants to use a 4th t2 upgrade)Cost 150 mil for the ship, requires you to train battleships to level 3 after meeting the other requirements. only 625m3 cargohold so you either have to time your miners out perfectly( which is going to be a headache with 8 and no groupings) or your going to have to take less yield with expanded cargoholds in your lows OR add 90 mil in cargo rigs.
[Maelstrom, New Setup 1] Mining Laser Upgrade II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II
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Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Deep Core Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
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The Maelstrom is even more pathic for mining. Mines 1052 m3/min cost 120 mil( the same as a hulk) and has an exciting 550 m3 cargohold.
Exhumers can permatank most rats, so really their is no reason to use a BS to mine unless your a combat pilot that mines occassionally and dont want to train the indy skills.
Edit:Typos
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Fisher Boss
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Posted - 2009.03.10 17:54:00 -
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Anything that can fit mining lasers, and use jetcans...
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Ig Neus
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Posted - 2009.03.11 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fisher Boss Anything that can fit mining lasers, and use jetcans...
And make sure you attack any frigate that steals from your can. What can a T1 Frigate do against a mighty Battleship/Exhumer, right? :)
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Ogron
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.11 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 10/03/2009 17:23:25 Here( all level 5 this is what fits with no tank and maxing CPU):
Dunno how you managed to max CPU with no mid-slots filled and all lvl 5 toon. I have Eng 4 and Elec 4 on my mining toons and run this setup. Don't forget about cheap Hardwirings ever ;)
[Hulk, passive] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Amplifier Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Ancillary Current Router I
Mining Drone II x5 Hardwiring - Zainou 'Gypsy' KMB-50 (+3% CPU)
Tanks 338 Guristas DPS, Perma-run with staggered Strip Miner timings. Domi res amps are about 12m, dread res amp was under 10m. Pretty cheap for a faction setup. Awesome tank, awesome yield. 1858m3 per cycle with my skills.
Or for cheap, T2 active tanking.
[Hulk, active] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Crokite Mining Crystal II
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Mining Drone II x5
Doesn't need hardwirings etc. Tanks 430 DPS on Guristas which will take up to 3 x 1.8m BS spawns or 6 x cruiser/battlecruiser spawns. --- * your signature image is broken. Please use one that works - Fallout Who is dis moses meehee they talking about ? |
Walker Bulldog
Minmatar VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2009.03.11 09:37:00 -
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If you want to mine in a battleship, go shoot rogue drones and pick up the alloys.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.11 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla [Rokh, Omnomnomnom] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
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Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
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Mining Drone II x5
No mining upgrades?? ==================================================
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