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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.03.04 17:39:00 -
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So Bob is dead ? Just curios how it ended
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Xiroas
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Posted - 2009.03.04 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Xiroas on 04/03/2009 17:44:52
No, the rats are now known are KenZoku; it will be nice once everyone declares war against them and causes them to quit.
Basically, Goons infiltrated BoB and convinced one of the directors to give them BoB, apparently it was because BoB was elitist and terrible, but we all knew that. So yeh, BoB is now with the Goons; however that's just the corp itself, the members and such are with KenZoku. ----------------------
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Borsek
Gallente A.A.A space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Borsek on 04/03/2009 18:01:48 Map
According to this, BoB is dead... almost. Not entirely... and it doesn't mean they can't regroup in empire and take their space back. But IMHO, they're falling apart, as the betrayal by such an important person was not only a monetary but also a severe blow to their morale.
Well BoB... after so many years, you were finally defeated.
I think they lost their sov so quickly because they lost a bunch of capitals (actually they were stolen by the goons) + probably cyno jammers... not sure tho. I eat pie, then you die. |
TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Borsek I think they lost their sov so quickly because they lost a bunch of capitals (actually they were stolen by the goons) + probably cyno jammers... not sure tho.
That was very few capitals in the grand scheme of things. Reality is that Goonswarm POS spammed everywhere, alot of them fitted with nothing but hardeners for maximum bordom. Then there were no cyno jammers to make safe zones. And then alot of people lost morale, especially the bob pets after reading how much BoB smacked them on their forums.
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:40:00 -
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wrong forum
Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
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Fat Freddy
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:42:00 -
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A director in the BoB alliance holding corp, who was inactive for months, logged in one day and decided to become a goon. He kicked all the corps out of the BoB alliance, then closed the alliance. I understand a number of assets were also stripped.
Goons go mental on the forums, claiming it was all goon work. Lots of emo.
BoB corp name was then taken by the goons and is now a corp in goonswarm alliance.
The whole thing has left a bad taste, the main argument is how can a single player dissolve an alliance with a couple of mouse clicks instantly, when other corp/alliance actions require 24 hours.
Regardless, BoB reformed as Kenzoku or something, but they have yet to make any impact on the territorial map.
Delve is in pieces with many alliances fighting over sovereignty.
Eventually I expect goons to gain the most, and by doing so they will become BoB, arrogant and yet pathetic.
Basically as an ordinary player, nothing has changed except a name. There is still a huge powerblock in 0.0 being arrogant by claiming they will control all of 0.0 space (originally used by goons as the reason for the hatred of BoB)...
"No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Animal Farm - George Orwell
Fred
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Jack Gates
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:45:00 -
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They lost their jammers and their jump bridges which helped a lot. BoB was already pretty weak when we took them down, though. They'd lost their pvp edge and treated their "pets" like crap, which is a great idea, unless you want your friends to, you know, care that you're being curb stomped.
When we got there it was a complete turkey shoot. They outlawed the use of t1 cruisers, and tried defending their space with packs of roaming HACs, which, of course, was the dumbest possible thing anyone could do, ever. Over the past week we've been camping them into an NPC station with a few hundred ships and something like ten bubbles. It got to the point where Ken held an "undocking op" and failed miserably.
Yes. They failed an op thats sole purpose was to undock.
A few goons have been contacted by members of Kenzoku and co., asking for asylum or offering bribes to get their things out of the station. Considering that BoB started this feud and has tried to snuff us out several times, Darius has said that everything will burn. Most of us are waiting on the cap ship fire sales.
It looks like Kenzoku will be in Empire in roughly a week.
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Taram Caldar
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.03.04 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Borsek Edited by: Borsek on 04/03/2009 18:01:48 Map IMHO, they're falling apart, as the betrayal by such an important person was not only a monetary but also a severe blow to their morale.
This but not only this. The fact that he basically finally said what so many knew already kind of killed their moralle more than even the betrayal did. It wasn't that he betrayed... it was that he plainly and honestly told everyone WHY he betrayed them. In summary: "Because the alliance had become a non-fun outfit to fly with full of egomaniacs who were deluding themselves into thinking they were still the 'best".
Everyone already KNEW that but someone finally doing something about it and articulating it publicly REALLY killed their moralle. Sure there are core loyalists left in Kenny but they're by far the minority. They are having serious moralle issues and internal strife. Not to mention the fact that some of their former pets are abandoning them now, which hasn't really happened in great numbers in the past.
KFC (aka BoB) may not be 'dead... stick a fork in them' but for them to recover they'll need a minor miracle at this point. They're down to living in NPC stations and not many alliances can go from being where they were to living in NPC stations and survive.
Honestly? They really didn't lose that many caps to the betrayal... not in the grand scheme of things. Only BNC was really affected by that portion and they aren't the richest of the bob corps. If they can muster the moralle and will to do so they COULD come back from this eventually. But it'll be a long road.. IF they even try.
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Malusae
Caldari House CHOAM Terrebellum
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Posted - 2009.03.04 19:20:00 -
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CAOD this way -> CAOD
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Geong Si
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Posted - 2009.03.04 21:00:00 -
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I must say, I find this kind of stuff one of the best parts about EVE. The fact that players essentially shape the universe so to speak, by their actions and strategies in game vs having the game dictate how you must play.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.04 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalpaks II So Bob is dead ? Just curios how it ended
A BoB director turned traitor and killed the alliance.
Goons and friends are feeding on the carcass.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2009.03.04 21:34:00 -
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I heard it was Nexus' alt who disbanded BoB, C/D?
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Death4free
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.03.04 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu I heard it was Nexus' alt who disbanded BoB, C/D?
No it was me in the flesh. I merely disguised myself as haargoth amarr in an attempt to bring more goonswarm haulers through rancver filled with delve loot
My plot did infact suceed and since then i have made over 2million isk!
Support me for a darker more piraty future!!
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destinationunreachable
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Posted - 2009.03.04 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Malusae CAOD this way -> CAOD
no, please not. CAOD is lala-smacktalk-land...
To the current situation. Bob still has 3200 members and one of eve largest cap fleet (though some gear is rusting in 23x7 camped PR-), including some 15 titans. It certainly includes also financial reserves to sustain a long war without high-end moon income. What bob has lost is the initiative. Since the beginning of the invasion they were reacting. Never acting. As we all know in PvP you only win the fights you pick. So the 2nd thing they lost is the morale. If they also loose their hope they will be history in a short time (and the goons get their firesale). If they manage to get a plan and their morale back, they are still a considerable force within the eve universe...
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Jack Gates
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.04 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: destinationunreachable
What bob has lost is the initiative.
And Delve.
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BallistaII
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.03.04 22:09:00 -
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Bob is the guy who lives down the street.
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Johnny Gurkha
Death Cult Covenant
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Posted - 2009.03.04 22:33:00 -
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bobs your uncle. badaboomtish, tyvm i'm here all wekekk
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Nestor Troy
Caldari Crucial Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.04 22:41:00 -
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mikeh24
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2009.03.05 00:20:00 -
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to end the thread.. yes
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.03.05 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 05/03/2009 00:44:55 Yes, defeated they are.
A victory for goons at first glance, though it certainly leaves a bitter taste as they were unable to defeat them on the field in the end, and will never be able to prove they'd have been able to.
So yes, victory is theirs, but its a victory without glory, worse then an ongoing struggle without final success.
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Xiroas
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Posted - 2009.03.05 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver
Originally by: Kalpaks II So Bob is dead ? Just curios how it ended
A BoB director turned traitor and killed the alliance.
Goons and friends are feeding on the carcass.
According to the director, he did it because BoB was a bunch of douche bags whom ignored their own mates, whereas Goons really stuck together.
I have to had it to the Goons, they have a vibrate community. ----------------------
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Orar Ironfist
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.03.05 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xiroas
Originally by: Drunk Driver
Originally by: Kalpaks II So Bob is dead ? Just curios how it ended
A BoB director turned traitor and killed the alliance.
Goons and friends are feeding on the carcass.
According to the director, he did it because BoB was a bunch of douche bags whom ignored their own mates, whereas Goons really stuck together.
I have to had it to the Goons, they have a vibrate community.
i didnt think anyone could manage to type with that much goonswarm junk in their mouth
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Xiroas
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Posted - 2009.03.05 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Orar Ironfist
Originally by: Xiroas
Originally by: Drunk Driver
Originally by: Kalpaks II So Bob is dead ? Just curios how it ended
A BoB director turned traitor and killed the alliance.
Goons and friends are feeding on the carcass.
According to the director, he did it because BoB was a bunch of douche bags whom ignored their own mates, whereas Goons really stuck together.
I have to had it to the Goons, they have a vibrate community.
i didnt think anyone could manage to type with that much goonswarm junk in their mouth
I didn't know it was bad to compliment a corp, my bad...
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE! HUM BUG! ----------------------
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Imperium Forces
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Posted - 2009.03.05 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Xiroas Edited by: Xiroas on 04/03/2009 17:44:52
No, the rats are now known are KenZoku; it will be nice once everyone declares war against them and causes them to quit.
im game for this if it means i can buy a 1mn MWD II for less than 5million freaking isk
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P CCP
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Posted - 2009.03.05 01:56:00 -
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Locked.
Off-topic for forum.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email |
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