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buck freelancer
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:39:00 -
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:34:00 - [7] - Edit
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I would take a stab in the dark and guess the reason for this thread is that you're not innocent until proven guilt. (1) I find it quite remarkable that a guy can get 1 account temporarily banned for what ever reason while CCP investigate the matter,as yet he's not been found guilt.
(2)Then offers his assistance and explain that he's done nothing wrong and been playing the game for how ever many years and has 3 other accounts and plays by the rules. Only to find out when he tries to log on with his 3 other accounts the next day, that good old CCP have banned all of his accounts.
(3)For a Gm then to post on a thread:- As often the case,there is more than meets the eye.The matter in question is a bit complicated than the original post makes it sound and we will continue discussing it with the banned accounts through the petition system. Although the GM failed to explain that the individual in question has tried to find out through the petition system and as yet had not one responce to his said mails,but they're happy to respond to a thread that's giving them bad press in no time.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:42:00 -
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IBTL
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Tobin Shalim
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:42:00 -
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Guys, please. I love seeing the support for our corpmate on this issue, but I also don't want negative attention being drawn to it by more threads being made. Just a request, but please don't make more threads about this until it gets resolved.
And on one last note....the person in question, despite GM claims to the contrary, he has NOT gotten a response on his petition in 3 days, yet they find time to post in this thread within an hour of it going up. Think about that. -----
Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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Suneai
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:42:00 -
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Stop trolling and drop it.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:49:00 -
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The last two threads give us all a great deal of insight as to why they are looking at you VERY closely.
I'd suggest you drop it and let them do their job, you aren't doing yourself any favors by mouthing off.
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Dragonwell
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 The last two threads give us all a great deal of insight as to why they are looking at you VERY closely.
I'd suggest you drop it and let them do their job, you aren't doing yourself any favors by mouthing off.
Sounds like the Mafia.
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Beledia Ilphukiir
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Beledia Ilphukiir on 23/02/2009 20:53:13 My original question releted to the fact there was no point to continue to discuss the issue, since the GMs had noticed it and we don't know anything about the case. These threads seem like he and his mates alts starting threads. I hope some of them at least get a warning(fingers crossed for bans).
(1) Temp bans are normal when investigation is ongoing.
(2) So he and his alts try to say, but we have no knowledge about the issue. People lie to get out of trouble. I know it's hard to believe, but it is true. If the guy did something wrong then all accounts in his name should be investigated.
(3) GMs lock thread discussing these issues on the forum. If you've been around, you know that is normal. There are proper channels for these issues, even when you think the GMs have treated you badly, when it took more then a few days for them to investigate an issue.
Stop posting this crap plz.
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Ginako
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:55:00 -
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Zex Maxwell
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:57:00 -
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 The last two threads give us all a great deal of insight as to why they are looking at you VERY closely.
Really? Please share some of these insights with the rest of us, because the CCP posts contain no information at all.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:08:00 -
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Question is, which acronym should I choose… IBTL or STFU GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=GǪ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
eFart
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:11:00 -
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lol
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:13:00 -
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Lock me once, shame on you. Lock me twice, shame...it...loc...we'll lock these insurgeons.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 23/02/2009 21:20:23 Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 23/02/2009 21:19:28
Originally by: Tobin Shalim And on one last note....the person in question, despite GM claims to the contrary, he has NOT gotten a response on his petition in 3 days, yet they find time to post in this thread within an hour of it going up. Think about that.
What I think about that is CCP is stillinvestigating - as they mentioned. And as the GM said: there are more "There are more than this that meets the eye". As it usually is. I have been around long enough to see lots of such posts as these. And it usually turns out that the friend usually have not been as nice as they first believed.
Also, the GM just commented in the thread. And mentioned that investigation is going on. Investigations takes time. Until its completed I choose to keep neutral. But if I should speak from forum experience CCP usually have turned out more trustworthy than the players who scream. JFYI.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Question is, which acronym should I choose IBTL or STFU
Both IMO.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:26:00 -
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I hear that reopening locked threads as another thread is a great idea.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: buck freelancer ...you're not innocent until proven guilt.
Doesn't work in the real world, why do you think it'll work here where you are not even given that right?
I always found the concept funny anyways. In the real world you are arrested, interrogated as if guilty, treated as guilty by the police handling you, put in jail until the trial begins and may even be in jail for the length of the trial if the judge decides it. Yet you are "innocent until proven guilty".
Actually not all that far off of what CCP does.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: buck freelancer ...you're not innocent until proven guilt.
Doesn't work in the real world, why do you think it'll work here where you are not even given that right?
I always found the concept funny anyways. In the real world you are arrested, interrogated as if guilty, treated as guilty by the police handling you, put in jail until the trial begins and may even be in jail for the length of the trial if the judge decides it. Yet you are "innocent until proven guilty".
Actually not all that far off of what CCP does.
Um...real life analogies being stupid and all aside, this is more so that the burden of proof in a trial rests on the shoulders of the prosecution. Hence, innocent until proven guilty.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: buck freelancer ...you're not innocent until proven guilt.
Doesn't work in the real world, why do you think it'll work here where you are not even given that right?
I always found the concept funny anyways. In the real world you are arrested, interrogated as if guilty, treated as guilty by the police handling you, put in jail until the trial begins and may even be in jail for the length of the trial if the judge decides it. Yet you are "innocent until proven guilty".
Actually not all that far off of what CCP does.
That's quite exactly what CCP does: Banning the accounts for the duration of the investigation to keep the involved player from obfuscating evidence. The accounts will remain locked in the banchambers until found innocent when they are released and compensated for the trouble. If found guilty the ban will be changed to a appropriate duration.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:46:00 -
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There are some serious idiots in this thread. Really. I sympathise about your friend getting his account suspended and about him being doubly foolish and declaring all his alt accounts, but "innocent until proven guilty" means:
Quote: the burden of proof in a trial rests on the shoulders of the prosecution.
Nothing more, nothing less. You'll still get locked up depending on the crime just as CCP have done here by removing the individual under suspicion from the environment until they can prove or disprove their guilt. I'm sure that CCP will, if proven innocent, reimburse your friend's game time. -
Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:46:00 -
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This thread surely proves your corpie is innocent.
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chrisss0r
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Posted - 2009.02.23 21:57:00 -
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someone whining like a child can never be guilty of anything
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim Guys, please. I love seeing the support for our corpmate on this issue, but I also don't want negative attention being drawn to it by more threads being made. Just a request, but please don't make more threads about this until it gets resolved.
And on one last note....the person in question, despite GM claims to the contrary, he has NOT gotten a response on his petition in 3 days, yet they find time to post in this thread within an hour of it going up. Think about that.
Just how well do you know your corpmate? Except for the usual suspects like Pan, most of us 1, don't care, and 2, aren't going to scream for some public investigation or to treat your buddy special just because your corp/alliance decided tomake a thread and post in it some.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Terail Zoqial
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:17:00 -
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ibtl
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CCP Mitnal
C C P CCP
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Posted - 2009.02.23 22:20:00 -
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Locked.
Please do not reopen locked threads.
Originally by: Beledia Ilphukiir Edited by: Beledia Ilphukiir on 23/02/2009 20:53:13
(3) GMs lock thread discussing these issues on the forum. If you've been around, you know that is normal. There are proper channels for these issues, even when you think the GMs have treated you badly, when it took more then a few days for them to investigate an issue.
GMs rarely lock threads, the Community Team does and we are a separate department.
GM Guard was the GM that posted, as lead GM clearly this issue is receiving the level of support to be expected.
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