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Amberlamps
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:19:00 -
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Confirming ROFLKETS are broken.
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scunner funk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:59:00 -
[962]
Confirming ALT POSTING is not broken
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Jyngo
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:27:00 -
[963]
Bumping this thread because I desperately want the Vengeance to be a good ship.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:22:00 -
[964]
in 18 months, maybe
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:13:00 -
[965]
Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 30/07/2010 11:13:14
Quote: Bumping this thread because I desperately want the Vengeance to be a good ship.
It is a good ship.
... If you use guns.
3 launchers+: (Primary weapon) Hawk Vengeance Malediction Crow Kestrel Breacher* Inquisitor Flycatcher Heretic Worm** Caldari Navy Hookbill*** Condor""
Split weapons (half and half rockets/guns) Merlin Tristan Eris
Extra launcher high slot (meh) Rifter Republic fleet Firetail Harpy Cormorant Thrasher Claw Stiletto Raptor Enyo Jaguar Wolf VINDICATOR DRAMIEL BECAUSE OF TANKY SHUTTLE FALCON
*Also severely handicapped by stupid slot layout. ** Worst pirate frigate by a longshot. Could've just given it hybrids or good fitting for standards but no. *** Changed to pure rockets from split weapon AFTER CCP ACKNOWLEDGED THEY WERE BROKEN. Good job on the pre-nerf there! "" Due partly to the stupid and obsolete tier system but still belongs there. _________________________________
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Deva Blackfire
LOST IDEA C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:13:00 -
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List of issues with rockets (complete i think): - inability to deal decent damage to small targets (especially ABing frigs) without using 1+ (2+ for Ab ships) webs or multiple painters which is impossible to put on one frig --> explo velocity and DamageReductionFactor issue - low damage (DPS) values. Bonused rocket launchers (+25% damage) are outclassed even by lowest tier autocannons and lasers - small clip capacity. Increase it to 80 (?) as rockets already lose circa 10% dps from reloads alone. Reducing ROF and upping damage (so DPS stays the same) would also help the issue a bit. Yet another way: reduce size of rockets. - short range due to how rocket is fired from ship (in front of) and due to rocket being "dumb" and not following target for around a second after a launch (which is around 1/3 of its total flight time = loses 1/3 of its range before it even starts to track target) - inability to hit non-webbed MWD frigs due to low velocity (3-4km/s wheras heavy missiles/cruises get upwards to 8km/s... its funny when heavy missile can catch up to ceptor and frig vs frig weapon cant) - "missile agility" issue. Old test of mine: rockets change dirtection (while following target) each second. This means that target which turns fast will not be hit at all (they have like 2 direction changes and are gone). Tested on close range orbit ceptor (think he was 500m orbit, landed at 3,5km from me doing around 2km/s) - with skills 5/5/dictors 4 (heretic, thus additional 40% to rocket velocity) he was hit 3 times out of around 100 rockets fired. - fitting issues of t2 rocket launchers on some ships. Example: heretic. Fitting 6 rocket launchers eats most of CPU ship has to offer. Any decent anti-frig setup (similiar to sabre: extender, web, damage mod, bubble blower, guns/rockets) will hit the CPU wall (and grid wall soon after) wheras sabre or catcher has no big issues fitting it all.
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 30/07/2010 11:13:14
Worm**
** Worst pirate frigate by a longshot. Could've just given it hybrids or good fitting for standards but no.
I think in Apocrypha sometime the Worm had Hybrids. So it suffers a similar fate of the Hookbill, really.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:11:00 -
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Quote: I think in Apocrypha sometime the Worm had Hybrids. So it suffers a similar fate of the Hookbill, really.
Yeah as I recall it was similar to the Typhoon nowadays - dual bonused and fittable with either launchers or turrets. Shame it sucked at both, but the current iteration isn't a huge improvement... _________________________________
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:16:00 -
[969]
When they fix rockets* the decision to remove the split weapons system will turn out to be a blessing, one of the big advantages of range bonused rockets is you can move between 500m and edge of scramble range without reducing your dps. Split weapons remove this advantage.
Worm wouldn't seem so bad if the ishkur wasn't so much better, needs something to set the two ships apart.
* "A bit of optimism never hurt." Said the dead horse _______
Trolls and Tribulations A story of eve, trolls, world domination and dogfighting against starlings in a tiny dramiel. |
So Cash
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Posted - 2010.08.01 22:52:00 -
[970]
I agree, Roflkets do appear to be broken.
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Zanaraxtarus
Knowledge Stick Station
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:06:00 -
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It's been FAR too long since someone added to this thread!
Well, I guess not anymore...
Seriously though, I think we all (and by "we all" I, of course, mean "anyone with any experience TRYING to use rockets" and/or "anyone with any remedial math skills") know that rockets are borked ("broken" kind of implies they were, at some point, "fixed" and I don't THINK that was ever the case [correct me if I'm wrong, please])
Point being, same as the many other posts, PLEASE (anyone tried saying 'please' yet?) fix rockets SOON! (tomorrow's downtime would be GREAT!)
(so frustrated when I think of this that I don't even know which smiley to use!)
-Zan- --Zan-- |
Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 04/08/2010 23:55:19
See sig. | | V _________________________________
ROCKET STATUS: NOT FIXED |
Meeko Atari
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:30:00 -
[973]
Are rockets fixed yet?
...sigh
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Zanon Ar'Dhaos
Caldari Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:21:00 -
[974]
Not on page 1? Back you go. |
ore4all
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:57:00 -
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rocket suck do you ppl buy rockets FOF missiles suck to and defender
need fix all 3 ****y missiles ciass i love biger rockets and lil torps add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
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Khalik Artonid
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Posted - 2010.08.08 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: ore4all rocket suck do you ppl buy rockets FOF missiles suck to and defender
need fix all 3 ****y missiles ciass i love biger rockets and lil torps add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
What.
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Zach Donnell
Ghost-Busters
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Posted - 2010.08.09 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: ore4all rocket suck do you ppl buy rockets FOF missiles suck to and defender
need fix all 3 ****y missiles ciass i love biger rockets and lil torps add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
I lol'd. -------------------------------------------------
"Bustin' makes me feel good!" |
King Dave
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:27:00 -
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Guys i wouldn't argue with Deva, he is ret4rded. <3 deva --------- "Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp" |
Deva Blackfire
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: King Dave Guys i wouldn't argue with Deva, he is ret4rded. <3 deva
Petitioned !!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
And well... free bump i guess ;p
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.11 11:45:00 -
[980]
This thread seems to have gone all bumpy, did we just run something over? _______
Trolls and Tribulations A story of eve, trolls, world domination and dogfighting against starlings in a tiny dramiel. |
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Krennel Darius
Caldari Nova Security Systems The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat This thread seems to have gone all bumpy, did we just run something over?
Yeah, I was hoping we ran over a rocket fix. Guess not though.
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Darth Felin
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Posted - 2010.08.13 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: yani dumyat This thread seems to have gone all bumpy, did we just run something over?
Yeah, I was hoping we ran over a rocket fix. Guess not though.
don't worry we will have space combat expansion and it will be included there of course. It is scheduled for late autumn 2011 but it will .
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Deva Blackfire
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.13 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Felin
Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: yani dumyat This thread seems to have gone all bumpy, did we just run something over?
Yeah, I was hoping we ran over a rocket fix. Guess not though.
don't worry we will have space combat expansion and it will be included there of course. It is scheduled for late autumn 2011 but it will .
Heh young ones. So innocent and naive :P
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Gecko O'Bac
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.13 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Darth Felin
Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: yani dumyat This thread seems to have gone all bumpy, did we just run something over?
Yeah, I was hoping we ran over a rocket fix. Guess not though.
don't worry we will have space combat expansion and it will be included there of course. It is scheduled for late autumn 2011 but it will .
Heh young ones. So innocent and naive :P
In truth after reading his post I thought "Whoa, so, after walking in station we can actually FLY IN SPACE??? Totally cool, man!" :D
Space combat expansions sounds so much like the "Jump to lightspeed" expansion for SWG (which tbh was probably the best addiction ever and it was a damn pity they neglected it so much to continue ruining the already doomed "ground play").
Ahem, back to topic.
Roflkets, soon?
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.17 06:04:00 -
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what happens when ccp ignores something
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Krennel Darius
Caldari Nova Security Systems The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.08.17 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal what happens when ccp ignores something
Rockets don't get fixed for two years?
I failed to see a rocket fix in this latest patch CCP.
_________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed, you're not Chuck Norris |
Nimbat
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Posted - 2010.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nimbat on 18/08/2010 01:32:07
Originally by: ore4all
i love biger rockets and lil torps add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
Let's try translating this ****.
I love big rockets and little torps. Add superfire speed r0ckets (okay airtime) but **** for damage. Slow firing torps, lots of damage with butt speed (ok). Missiles for ok damage and good air speed.
Originally by: Khalik Artonid
What.
Still doesn't make sense, sorry.
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.08.18 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: ore4all
i love biger rockets and lil torps add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
What? You guys don't speak gibberish? Better translation:
Originally by: ore4all
i love biger rockets and lil torps
I would like to see the creation of new types of missiles in the game.
Originally by: ore4all add rockets for super fire speed ok air time **** for dmg
Create medium and large sized rockets (cruiser and battleship sized weapons) that have a high rof, low burn time, average velocity, and poor damage (alpha).
Originally by: ore4all and slow fireing torp lot dmg butt low air time
Also create small and medium sized torps (frigate and cruiser sized weapons) that have a slow rof, slow velocity, and high damage (alpha).
Originally by: ore4all and missiles for ok dmg and good air time
Brain fart?
HTH
Patri
I'll Roshambo You For That Titan! |
omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:34:00 -
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CCP needs to nerf larger missiles to bring them in line with rockets.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.08.20 10:54:00 -
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Nope, CCP needs to nerf frigate turrets so they need 3 rigs to hit targets their own size. _________________________________
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