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Aggressive Nutmeg
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:17:00 -
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Kobal81 wrote:Conferming, one less scammer has left the game  That sentence does not mean what you think it means. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:20:00 -
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HTFU or GTFO You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate EVE Animal Control
173
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Posted - 2012.04.24 22:29:00 -
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Ellie McAmber wrote:Samillian wrote:Contract -trading was a mini profession?
I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items. If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun. Happy for you if you like the market as it is. But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.
If choice is good, why would you want me to not be able to choose to put my faction items on the market as oppose to contracts? You can still contract faction items. CCP just gave you more choice, they did not take any away.
It was ******** that faction items weren't on the market to begin with.
You realize that what you are saying makes no sense? I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
888
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Posted - 2012.04.25 00:07:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote: It was ******** that faction items weren't on the market to begin with.
The dirty secret is that faction items were left on the contract market as a way to draw people into using the contract market.
(There was also some original role-play reasoning that the empire factions didn't want faction modules/ships sold on the open market.) |

EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2012.04.25 00:36:00 -
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Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Prostitution is the oldest and most respected profession in the known Universe !!
Which is why we need WiS
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
275
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Posted - 2012.04.25 00:43:00 -
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They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.
Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way. |

EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:01:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.
Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way.
Man and I hated drone missions BEFORE this change "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |

Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
254
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:06:00 -
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Great change, totally in support of it.
One thing that I hated with EVE IPH is that I couldn't get market prices for items I could build with BPC's from the LP store. I had to look in contracts, then total up all the parts, etc. Real pain.
Now the prices will update from market uploaders and I won't have to go looking around for the items. Single items are for selling on the market system, not the contract system. It's working as intended as far as I'm concerned.
So if you are unhappy with this change, I am happy. Net change to the game = 0 Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
275
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:19:00 -
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EVE Stig wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.
Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way. Man and I hated drone missions BEFORE this change
At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.
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Bane Necran
358
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:24:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.
Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums.
You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
275
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:34:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.
Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums. You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last.
Not so sure about that, done quite a few things in-game some of those things I have no interest in any longer. I could hang around for FW but not that confident that CCP won't mess that up. Been in and out since 2005 so maybe it's just time. |

scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
103
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Posted - 2012.04.25 02:41:00 -
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In fairness I have a number of SP in toons that have corporate contracting to V kind of a waste now  |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
445
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:10:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.
Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums. You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last. Not so sure about that, done quite a few things in-game some of those things I have no interest in any longer. I could hang around for FW but not that confident that CCP won't mess that up. Been in and out since 2005 so maybe it's just time.
Well they are getting rid of R&D agents (well theyre planning to if you see that video with CCP Guard I think where he says "if youre smart youll cash in before the epansion" or something to that effect) and forcing that system through FW (though youd think theyd give FW love before forcing the tech II market through it).
But hey, if yer not comin back anywsyd, wanna hook me up with your Isk?
 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |

CaptainFalcon07
Caucasian Culture Club Narwhals Ate My Duck
15
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Posted - 2012.04.25 08:36:00 -
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What is more annoying is the trade/market bots that will start doing 0.01 isk wars with these modules.
CCP needs to fix the constant 0.01 isk wars by putting a hefty price change fee of 1%, instead of a 100 isk. |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
891
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:28:00 -
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CaptainFalcon07 wrote: CCP needs to fix the constant 0.01 isk wars by putting a hefty price change fee of 1%, instead of a 100 isk.
1% would be far far too severe.
They should probably raise the change fee from 100 ISK to 1000 ISK (which would result in a pretty good ISK sink). Maybe as much as 5000 ISK fee to change the order.
Maybe consider charging 0.005% of the market order amount to change the price. You won't want to go much higher then that or you will negatively affect the market. |

Sid Hudgens
32
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:00:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:d of R&D agents (well theyre planning to if you see that video with CCP Guard I think where he says "if youre smart youll cash in before the epansion" or something to that effect) and forcing that system through FW (though youd think theyd give FW love before forcing the tech II market through it). But hey, if yer not comin back anywsyd, wanna hook me up with your Isk? 
Dammit man! While I was training my alt up for scrapmetal processing I was also working on rep with a research agent corp.
Ok ... no problem.
On to plan C.
"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
280
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:24:00 -
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Ellie McAmber wrote:CCP killed my mini-profession today. Is yours next?.
WAIT, Wait, wait!
I had better check this: buy stuff on market - still works favorite **** sites - still let me leach for free using Realplayer sell stuff on market - still works (now in color!) Get tips for helping on a mission - yep, that still works Blow crap up and get isk - Yep Trading via hauling - that works too Sell stuff on contract - yeah fukung.net - back up (cool, that was close)
Nope! I'm good. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
68
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:50:00 -
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There are all sorts of different types of trading than playing the .01 cent game.
Once you get out of Jita they open up. Even in the forge you can sucessfully sell things in other systems for different prices. People don't always want to take a 6 or 8 jump round trip.
I sell some stuff even right next to Jita, likely because undocking is a pain or war-decs keep cautious players from making that last jump. |

Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:55:00 -
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@ OP
I'm sorry to hear that the patch killed your mini-game and that EVE is a lot boring for you.
I'm sorry to hear that gun miners got their professions trashed
I'm sorry to hear the incursion runners also got their assaults and vanguards killed
I'm sorry to hear that Eve is a horrible place now
I'm sorry to hear that Jita is going to burn
I'm sorry to hear GSF is going to kill miners in highsec
I'm sorry to hear the GM's have godmodez that are even greater than Concord
omg! Eve is dying
***
Lastly I heard, PI and CQ are very interesting, maybe give them a try? |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
184
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:58:00 -
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Ellie McAmber wrote:But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.
HAHA. I have loved hearing this one over and over. You have it backwards. Choice is good. And choice is exactly what was ADDED.
Before you had no choice. You had to sell these items only by contract. Now you can CHOOSE to buy from a contract or the market.
You may not like it. But at least get your argument correct. There was no choice before. |
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Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:58:00 -
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Diomedes Calypso wrote:There are all sorts of different types of trading than playing the .01 cent game.
Once you get out of Jita they open up. Even in the forge you can sucessfully sell things in other systems for different prices. People don't always want to take a 6 or 8 jump round trip.
I sell some stuff even right next to Jita, likely because undocking is a pain or war-decs keep cautious players from making that last jump.
^this
play smart, in fact a lot of ppl don't even want to undock and get stuff from a different place (even in same system), you just have to learn to be a supplier who can provide a good variety and availability. |

Arkturus McFadden
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.04.26 00:48:00 -
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I don't know about you..but I still see LOTS of contracts in market hubs!  |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
54
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Posted - 2012.04.26 01:58:00 -
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Well at least I will have a record of the price history of said items now. This is truly the beginning of end days. Why would I want to know by how much more I am getting screwed this time?!  |

Kestrix
UV Heavy Industries
24
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:42:00 -
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Contracts are still an option... the market only has a short range. I can't sit in Rens looking on the market and also see the market in jita! Contracts can be seen from across the whole of the eve univirse and so you are still reaching a much bigger potential customer base. |
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