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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Patrika Deane

Sat, 19 Jul 2009 10:21:00 +0000

Originally by: Kaedris Ryn
[1] Even if Heth is a "typical tyrant", that doesn't mean the whole Caldari State operates as such. While he wields an exalted and powerful status, he still sits in a State run by a conglomeration of corporations, each keenly aware of cost and value. What Heth says on his pulpit can be a far cry from the true motivations inside the boardrooms and stockholder meetings.

Well said, Citizen. In the end, the State must look to the bottom line, but that bottom line must be to the beneift of its most important stakeholders ... the Caldari people. We are teh one who must ultimately, be the beneficiaries of corporate jurisprudence. Also, Heth is Caldari, which make him a very atypical despot. We do not do things in healf measures.

Originally by: Kaedris Ryn
[2] Just because CCP doesn't write a chronicle about it doesn't mean it isn't a reality. ... The State is no stranger to authoritarianism, much of society revolving around the strong principles of duty and purpose upon which authoritarianism itself is based. We have no insight on the machinations of the rest of the billions of State citizens and military. We the players have (or can have, should you choose) a large role in defining the mentality of the empire.

Not only it's mentality, but it's morality as well. The Gallente are creche-kin ... born of the same celestial womb. The State is Father, the State is Mother ... we are kin. We as capsuleers have a grave responsiblity to defend and protect our fellow citizens, adn yes, even those not of our own heritage who reside and work within our borders.

Originally by: Kaedris Ryn
[3] A few people have made mention of the "shades of grey" fading away, if you will. While the onset of a massive war does tend to make things more black and white, the "grey" is still very much there.

"War is always a matter of doing evil in the hope that some good may come of it.", Captain Sir Basil Liddel Hart.

We pilots are the ones with the power, the vision and the means to best see to it that some good does come of this epic struggle. To this reason, while I patrol the tradelanes of the State, I ahve chosen to pass on missions against rival empires. To this end, I hope to bring a new brotherhood to the universe, or at least, my little corner of the world, the crew of my ship.

Originally by: Kaedris Ryn
[4] Which brings me to my final point. A few people have commented that they feel hindered by these chronicles because they bestow a particular atmosphere or attitude on their empires and thusly their characters. That's a depressing lack of imagination. I wouldn't presume to tell anyone how to react, but for my part, I'm quite pleased to be a part of the Caldari State regardless of Mr. Heth's beliefs or tendencies. Countless Amarrians rejoice in the glory of their past and present Empire, even with the mark of slavery upon that legacy. You have to look at the brighter points, you see. Much as we observe the various shades of grey, hmm?

Regardless of who is at the helm of the ship that is the Caldari Sate, I will do my duty to those members of its crew and its passengers. To me, the Caldari Way is the ... least flawed system of governance. It is however, lacking an important check and balance at its highest levels. It currently rests only in the wills and ideology of its Captain and Officers. Our actions in interpresting and executing the instructions of our Captain will ultimately determine if the ship flounders and capsizes or if it rides out the Hell that is War.

Lt. Patrika Deane,
Caldari Navy Reserves

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Dex Nederland

Fri, 18 Jul 2009 13:20:00 +0000

I am currently working on a story to try and help explain the dilemma from an IC perspective, but with the ability to include OOC knowledge.

Founder Heiian Society

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Kaedris Ryn

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 23:09:00 +0000

A few observations of mine, having read all these replies. As a precursor, I agree that this installment is certainly the most poorly written one. However, I think some people are getting a bit "out of range" in the comments.

[1] Even if Heth is a "typical tyrant", that doesn't mean the whole Caldari State operates as such. While he wields an exalted and powerful status, he still sits in a State run by a conglomeration of corporations, each keenly aware of cost and value. What Heth says on his pulpit can be a far cry from the true motivations inside the boardrooms and stockholder meetings. Which alludes to the fact that...

[2] Just because CCP doesn't write a chronicle about it doesn't mean it isn't a reality. They make it plain that the State has a dubious and hate-prone leader at the forefront, who is also exerting some forms of censorship and authoritarian control over the populace. And that's it, from what I gather. The State is no stranger to authoritarianism, much of society revolving around the strong principles of duty and purpose upon which authoritarianism itself is based. We have no insight on the machinations of the rest of the billions of State citizens and military. We the players have (or can have, should you choose) a large role in defining the mentality of the empire.

[3] A few people have made mention of the "shades of grey" fading away, if you will. While the onset of a massive war does tend to make things more black and white, the "grey" is still very much there. You could just say it's harder to see in the contrast of extremes. Picture it like this. On your right, you see a stern-looking guy in a **** costume screaming a bunch of nonsense and gesticulating wildly. On your left, a guy in flamboyant colors dripping in jewelry and peace-symbols shouts another bunch of nonsense from beneath his massive afro. Will you notice the average-looking guy in a baseball cap and jacket standing in the middle? Or the man in the suit watching the ******-immitator with a grin? Or the portly woman and her granddaughter feeding some birds beside the Peace-Monger's pulpit? What do they (read as We, the players) think of these characters?

[4] Which brings me to my final point. A few people have commented that they feel hindered by these chronicles because they bestow a particular atmosphere or attitude on their empires and thusly their characters. That's a depressing lack of imagination. I wouldn't presume to tell anyone how to react, but for my part, I'm quite pleased to be a part of the Caldari State regardless of Mr. Heth's beliefs or tendencies. Countless Amarrians rejoice in the glory of their past and present Empire, even with the mark of slavery upon that legacy. You have to look at the brighter points, you see. Much as we observe the various shades of grey, hmm?

Cheers,
K.R.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Aeo IV

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 18:43:00 +0000

I really wish these stories where adding depth to factions, and not just merely making them look like stupid asses.

take Amarr for example, you can bet your boots that it's going to be a great big long tirade making them out to be all evil soulless monsters. Fine, we get it, CCP doesn't like fundamentalist christian bigotry, but how about trying to add something to the fiction? The empire hasn't had a leader for years, no longer is a 'true' theocracy (in the sense that religion is loosing power to corporations), and are still recoiling from their defeat at the hands of the Jovian Empire (supposedly), and, when an emperor finally shows up, it's a clone of some long dead heir, and all the other houses just forfeit their power in favor of someone who, according to previously established fiction, is of unpure flesh, and therefore not legally able to become emperor to begin with!

Or the minmatar, for example, stealing money from the Gallente federation earmarked for their people, to build a big ass fleet, and go on a glorious yet ultimately pointless killing spree, and yet we hear nothing of the outraged poverty strikened families, who would undoubtedly be ****ed off that all that money was wasted on a bunch of ships to start a war that didn't need to happen.

Why is it that we never see stories about disillusioned Amarrians, or minmatarians sick of war, for example?

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Ultin Harvor

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 18:30:00 +0000

After briefly scanning this thread I would just like to say a few things;

1. Not all dictators are fascist, and therefore they aren't all Adolf's. Chairman Mau was a communist dictator (as is Kim Jong-il and many others are/were), and it seems to me that the Caldari State has a lot more in common with a communist regime rather than a fascist one as they hold nationalist ideals and from the past chronicles it seems that the image of the common worker in the Caldari state is a downtrodden mass, and lets not forget that the rise of every dictator was due to a mix of skill and circumstance. Heth was in the right place at the right time and could turn the situation to his advantage, only the people with the will to do this will do so and Heth is one of those people.

2. Again, someone has to be the bad guy. And someone who has the strength to do what must be done (which all the leaders have had so far, they are leaders for a reason lest we forget) will have to be able to put the emotion to one side, as Heth did when he contemplated hitting the guy again. This is the key part, he decided that he could do it again, to me at least this does not seem like someone ruled by emotion when he is in the thick of it.

3. Just because a victim says that they don't think that the attack was racially motivated doesn't mean it wasn't. The excuse could have been the kiss, but the motivation could well have been racial.

4. Also the Caldari are the most numerous race atm in EVE, maybe it's time they learned what they are...

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Abrazzar

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 12:35:00 +0000

Edited by: Abrazzar on 17/07/2008 12:35:01
There was a attempt on the fnhrer's live. So that might be where the flow of history gets changed. Heth has one mortal enemy, Otro Gariushi's sister. She has the dire need to exterminate Tibus and the means and abilities to do so. It's only a matter of time really.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Patrika Deane

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 12:09:00 +0000

((Yes, as a piece it is well written, but shines little light into Heth's ideology or motivations. The EVE novel does a much better job .. which CCP SHOULD have sold to active accoutns at a discount ... cheapskates.

Heth is a Fascist, wasn't the first, won't be the last. He is a bigot, the Novel explains a bit why. But with the political support he received from the other corporations, and his own little "sturmabteilung" the Rank and file caldari citizen has little choice but to comply. Again, another historical parallel. History DOES repeat itself.

The other two chronicles provided FAR more insights as to the inner workings fo the minds of the leaders of the other two nations. I look forward to the Amar one.

Now the point is ... Heth is in power, what is next? He was put in power by a confluence of many unrelated events. What will sustain him, and when he inevitablly falls, what will be its cause and what will arise as a result?

In the case of 1930s Germany, it was a world war that destroyed the nation and led to the collapse of theReich. What will CCP do here? Repeat history? BORING! thats the easy out .. or will they provide us a backstory to work with?

I am not fond fo the PvP bias of EVE ... I wish there were more story arc missions in high sec. Perhaps some relating to the conflict? Something that might lead to some final outcome? a Heth flavor arc and a "gariushi-esque" arc? ))

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Patrika Deane

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 11:58:00 +0000

Citizens of the State,

We have been presented with a great challenge. The ideals that our founders have set down for us are being challenged. We, the State, are a meritocracy at heart, the work of the one will determine his/her place in society. Those that strive, achieve, those who cannot, will be provided for. We must preserve who we are while rewarding those who shine brigth. The corporation is the ladder upon which we take our steps out of medicority.

Heth is correct in his perception that the Megacorporations, specifically the heads of their boards, have garnished too much power and too little compassion from where they came from. They have become a race unto themselves. They are responsible to noone and have no checks and balances. The Greatest Caldari, Otro Gariushi is dead. His life has been snuffed out by forces greater than us all, but his memory must live on. He alone saw the greatness that was Caldari and had led and guided Ishukone to the model corporation, profitable, yet mindful of its most important assets, the employees in its ranks.

Heth's anti-racial propaganda does not alter the fact that Gallente and Caldari are, at their deepest roots, cousins. Born of the same celestial mother Luminaire, but treading two different paths in life. We cannot blame the Galletne for the failings of a few.

Now, it is us, we the Caldari Capsuleers who must reflect on our actions. Gariushi was the light, Heth was the cleansing flame. We must be the embers from which a new beacon of Caldari must be kindled. We must protect those in the State who cannot protect themselves. We must be mindful of our neghbhors and respect their uniqueness.

We are the new elite.

What we do will change the face of the universe, we are Immortal, at least until proven otherwise. Will we be corrupted by power? So tempting is its siren's call. See how easily the heads of our boards sucumb. Or will we be responsible, defiant and proud in our moral and ethical righteousness. The Gallente do not hold a monopoly on virtue.

Heth cannot last, he is not a CEO .. he is a powerful figure, bright, passionate, fiery ... but he has neither the skills nor aptitude to sustain his flame. We must ensure that his fire does not consume us all. Caldari AND Gallente.

"Quis custodios, Ipsos Custodiens?"

Only our conceinces.

Thank you for your time and patience.

Lt. Patrika Deane,
House Deane of Stolaria,
Caldari Navy Reserves

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Buduran

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 10:14:00 +0000

Now now, let's not get overexcited about the race part. Most people here seem to overlook a couple of things that the chron implies at the start.

To me, young Heth here is portrayed as a sort of a thug - mean, aggressive and cold. A KK bodyguard on station duty, and those are said to be maybe not the meanest, but the most likely to break regulations.

Second, the person that was interviewed stated that both he and his companion mocked Heth. You don't blow a kiss to a dead serious thug when you're a guy not expecting to get your face hammered in now do you?

Third, as someone already said, the victim does not think the attack was racially motivated.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Miyamoto Uroki

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 09:47:00 +0000

Edited by: Miyamoto Uroki on 17/07/2008 09:47:30

Originally by: Rutger Centemus
On the chronicle: it might have been a good idea for the writer to at least give some hint to this (provided Miyamoto's statement is correct), as from the current chronicle we get no real insight whatsoever into Heth, his background and thinking... So far, and only after Miyamoto's spoilers, the only thing which might link to this is some half-assed 1- or 2-line remark given to the reporter on 'Agency Central' and a 'directive [which] came right from up the top'. Next to that, we only seem to get a one-dimensional 'insight' into things.

Having read the previous chronicles with delight, I'm sorry to say this one to me personally lacks a bit ...

Don't forget that this interview was held AFTER tibus heth rose to power. The order that came from above is not necessarily from his master, but more probably from the Provists (Heth's bloodhounds and command crew) which coordinate all propaganda now.

Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by XFranc

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 06:36:00 +0000

The shades of grey are definately in EVE still, from this you fail to see how Heth treats his compatriots, the Novel does spend a good amount of time on Heth, and from that we see more that he is moulded.

He hates Gallente, that much is true, we don't fully understand the reasons why, but that i'm sure will be shown at some point.

I would say that rather than being ******, who had everything and wanted more, Heth is a victim, who just cant get enough revenge.

As far as I can see the Chronicles are doing an excellent job of reflecting the "real" (not RL) world in Eve, I can imagine many goverments that try and surpress bad press, even in the RL this DEFINATELY happens, we just cant prove it very often.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Miyamoto Uroki

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 06:28:00 +0000

Edited by: Miyamoto Uroki on 17/07/2008 06:28:50
For buying the book in germany: I preordered my copy from amazon.de and they delivered my hardback after 4 days of release date. Try it there.

Spoilers (don't read it if you haven't read the novel yet and still plan to!!!!):

And yes, Heth is definately only a puppet. Granted, he is good at firy speeches addressing the masses and he's also a capable combat veteran, but he could never mastermind the downfall of the caldari state as we knew it.

After all, Heth's "master" is ruining the state system because of a high person inside the state denying him a deal. An incredible valueable deal, safe to say on a epic scale. This also reaches into the minmatar-amarr plot here (don't want to get into details so much as you still should read the book, really). And now he fasten the downfall of the already crumbling caldari state system and provoking racial uprisings (the Admiral Noir incident..his work. The "mad dogs" chronicle happenings...his work. the caldari constructions deal...well, obviously his work. Allowing Heth to adress the whole state..his work again.

This is where I think ccp made that character look too overpowered, although he was already introduced by ccp about 4 years ago in another chronicle, and even then he was described powerful enough to play on empire scale level. Though I find it a bit ridiculous to describe him as as rich as the biggest megacorp in the state.)

So it all comes down to economic reasons again, backstabbing and rivalry of leaders. I haven't finished the book yet, but until now there are at least 2 ex-CEOs of caldari megacorporations who seek to end Heth's life and end his tryanny as ofc they were forced to retreat by the provist forces (Heth's bloodhounds really).

Interesting part is, what will the puppet master do now? Certainly he will make big profit from all the wars going on, but will he help Heth in future?
Another big mystery and lots of grey is the involvment of the Jove. They are guiding and watching this whole process. They made some key-moves to allow this events to unfold, so one can also say that the Jove are another puppet master, sitting above the whole conflict.

(for example, the Jove allowed Sarum's minions to find that ancient weapon which she used to destroyed that minmatar fleet. Usually the jove are hiding all these findings from the empires. And no, the weapon wasn't Jove technology btw. It's far more ancient)

Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Abrazzar

Thu, 17 Jul 2009 02:08:00 +0000

Heth is a corpse that just doesn't know it's dead. His benefactor is becoming a increasingly broken person, unraveling, one could say, the rot is starting to finally catch. The forced and sudden ascendancy of Heth left him with many mortal enemies, still rather powerful and just waiting for the right moment to make Tibus Heth to a Glorious Martyr of the Caldari State and wrap things up in a face saving and ultimately profitable manner.

Interestingly enough 'Heth' is a letter from the Proto-Canaanite Alphabet, a voiceless uvular fricative, which might hint on what Tibus really is: A hapless puppet of a decaying puppeteer.

Personally I doubt the creative heads at CCP are so unimaginative as to just rehash all too recent history. It'd be too easy, too obvious, too one-dimensional.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Shadarina

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 17:29:00 +0000

Edited by: Shadarina on 16/07/2008 17:33:14
Please excuse me if i have misinterpreted or missed anything
I must say this Chronicle did seem to be at the same standard as the others recently posted.
I found it unclear what was really happening with the capsuleer etc.
I also think it does not shed much light on the current polical motivations and aims of Tibus Heth. One event ten years ago, with somebody who looks like him (considering the number of people supposedly in the EVE universe, it would be supprising if there was not somebody who looked like Heth)beating up a half Gallente following what appears to be a serious (and therefore stressful) incident
does give a good enough angle on current events.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 17:23:00 +0000

I just thought of this but has anyone had the thought that the whole point of this story may have been to subtlety show Heth to be a puppet of someone else or a group? IE hes just a figure head so that if things go south they will string Heth up instead of them?

Consider this for a moment that the guy says it was like heth didnt see him, like he was kinda just zoning out and than the after math, that doesnt strike me as someone who could essentially mastermind the take over of the caldari state. Just a thought.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Yann Ephemere

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 16:43:00 +0000

Quote:

For example that Tibus Heth is nothing more than a puppet who is taking orders (though from an even more ridiulous powerful comic character).
And that the megacorp CEOs didn't hand over their corps to Heth without reason. They did it so save their position and even lifes. So one can definately expect that several mighty ex-leaders are working behind the scene to get back into power.

Tibus Heth is also a member of an officially forbidden racist movement, whose members are veterans of the great war and simply hate gallenteans. They are also backing up Heth.

I believe the complaint in this thread is that Heth himself shows a distinct lack of depth. As far as I can tell from your spoilers, the novel does not seem to remedy this.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by AltBier

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 15:14:00 +0000

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At first I thought it was cause of my skin, since there arent many halfbreeds like me running around on the upper decks. But then I realized it was because of the way I was sitting. I was sitting on the back of my chair with my feet on the seat, and station regs frown upon that, you see.

The victim did NOT consider it to be a racially motivated attack.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Rutger Centemus

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 11:57:00 +0000

Edited by: Rutger Centemus on 16/07/2008 12:01:33
Edited by: Rutger Centemus on 16/07/2008 11:57:35

Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Sadly, the novel explains lots of the questions in this thread. I say sadly because that means that those that haven't read it, will always walk in the dark for the reasonings etc.
I hope ccp will release the novel as a free of charge PDF file somewhere in the future.
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This, or at least make sure the novel is distributed. So far, I haven't been able to get it from stores in Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands, as at most suppliers can only tell it "will be published some time soon".

On the chronicle: it might have been a good idea for the writer to at least give some hint to this (provided Miyamoto's statement is correct), as from the current chronicle we get no real insight whatsoever into Heth, his background and thinking... So far, and only after Miyamoto's spoilers, the only thing which might link to this is some half-assed 1- or 2-line remark given to the reporter on 'Agency Central' and a 'directive [which] came right from up the top'. Next to that, we only seem to get a one-dimensional 'insight' into things.

Having read the previous chronicles with delight, I'm sorry to say this one to me personally lacks a bit ...

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Miyamoto Uroki

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 09:58:00 +0000

Sadly, the novel explains lots of the questions in this thread. I say sadly because that means that those that haven't read it, will always walk in the dark for the reasonings etc.
I hope ccp will release the novel as a free of charge PDF file somewhere in the future.

Minor Spoilers ahead, beware!:

For example that Tibus Heth is nothing more than a puppet who is taking orders (though from an even more ridiulous powerful comic character).
And that the megacorp CEOs didn't hand over their corps to Heth without reason. They did it so save their position and even lifes. So one can definately expect that several mighty ex-leaders are working behind the scene to get back into power.

Tibus Heth is also a member of an officially forbidden racist movement, whose members are veterans of the great war and simply hate gallenteans. They are also backing up Heth.

Originally by: Puupuu
dude... your face

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Rodj Blake

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 09:51:00 +0000

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/07/2008 09:51:44

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Fellas, it was pretty much expected that some of these leaders would be scumbags. Someone's gotta be the bad guy. I don't know why you're making all these silly germany allusions. I mean sure, there's some inspiration taken from history, but it doesn't mean CCP has ordered all Caldari players to march in goosestep and greet each other with heils.

But surely you'd agree that it's better to have leaders with complex personalities rather than cheap imitations of **** Dastardly?

edit: Poxy swear filter. His first name is the shortened form of Richard...

Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Blackjack OMalley

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 04:14:00 +0000

I guess for me it's about choice. I understood that the Caldari were a bit dystopian when I decided to play one, but I also saw that they came from a noble and truly epic origin. There was a majesty there that appealed to me, that gave depth to the cold corporatism so easily and so casually tossed about when describing them. If the Caldari were hard, cold, and focused on the Bottom Line, it was because 20,000 years of struggle to survive on a hostile world, followed by violent eviction from their home, had made them hard.

Now out of the blue, and with the barest scrap of exposition to justify it, I'm a Space-Natzi. I await the next chronicle that describes the Caldari Pod Pilots on trial whose only defense will be 'I was just following orders...'

Give him back the knife, because the children of men have need of it

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hurs Sokira

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 01:08:00 +0000

Edited by: Hurs Sokira on 16/07/2008 01:09:05

Originally by: Kvander Godalming
The tragedy now is that if you're fighting for the Caldari in FW and pay even modest attention to the storyline, you have to reconcile yourself to the fact that you're fighting for the mad instigator of a sordid race war.

That is not an issue we facing right now. People fight sordid wars all the time, each for their own, complex reasons. Amarr had to reconcile themselves that they are fighting to preserve slavery. But they were able to reconcile it using a wealth of information previously avalilable in Prime Fiction: religious, economic, political factors, etc.

Caldari, on the other hand, virtually overnight, went from a dark, complex, corporatist dystopia, full of internal intrigue and conflict, into cartoonish totalitarian regime lead by a thug that everyone magically follow just because CCP wanted so.

]It is not about how bad people (or states) can become, it's about how they get there. I do not think people would mind if Caldari became totalitarian state lead by a thug, only if the process was gradual and actually made sense from sociological, political and economical point of view. Instead, CCP writers climbed into director's chair, grabbed a megaphone and yelled at Caldari players: "You are no longer members of different megacorps! You are all space-nazis now! Now go and fight!"

And people are sort looking at each other and asking: "What's our motivation? What's the point of all that? Why should we care?"

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hurs Sokira

Wed, 16 Jul 2009 00:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Kvander Godalming
Hopefully whoever writes the chronicles are not limited to one story. It'd be interesting if Heth's hatred for Gallente were attributable to something in his past that could be explored even further.

I am sure the next chronicle detailing Heth's background will tell us that his grandmother become pregnant when working as a servant in Gallente household on Caldari Prime, that he was beaten by his father as a child, and he was a struggling painter before he went into military.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Kvander Godalming

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 23:40:00 +0000

Edited by: Kvander Godalming on 15/07/2008 23:44:32

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Nobody complains about Heth being a bad guy per se. But there are well-written bad guys and there are total caricatures. Well-written antagonists encourage players to wade in and explore the "shades of gray" on the dark side. Caricatures make the players say: "WTF?" and just walk away in disgust.

Agreed. It's obvious Heth is supposed to be villainous, but I was hoping for something more of an intellectual/ideological villain, or even just the clever/"I have a plan and everyone's my puppet" villain. At least that way we could try to stick up for our guy.

(For the record, I think Foiritan will end up being villainous, too. But his villainy can, at least, be rationalized, if not justified. And it's at least related to something we know about him -- it's the product of his rage and his disillusionment).

The tragedy now is that if you're fighting for the Caldari in FW and pay even modest attention to the storyline, you have to reconcile yourself to the fact that you're fighting for the mad instigator of a sordid race war.

Hopefully whoever writes the chronicles are not limited to one story. It'd be interesting if Heth's hatred for Gallente were attributable to something in his past that could be explored even further.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hurs Sokira

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 22:51:00 +0000

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Fellas, it was pretty much expected that some of these leaders would be scumbags. Someone's gotta be the bad guy.

Nobody complains about Heth being a bad guy per se. But there are well-written bad guys and there are total caricatures. Well-written antagonists encourage players to wade in and explore the "shades of gray" on the dark side. Caricatures make the players say: "WTF?" and just walk away in disgust.

Heth is a poorly-written, one-dimensional, ebil caricature. If someone does not see clear "homage" to nazis and Hitler in CCP's current writing, they either do not know history, or pretend not to.

Previous PF chronicles had nuances in them. Mordu's Legion hinted at Caldari's xenophobia, but same chronicle also described State suppressing anti-Intaki race-motivated riots. That's shades of gray. Heth breaking someone's nose just because they look funny has nothing compelling in it.

By writing these chronicles, CCP essentially saying: "Heth is a racist thug. Discuss." There is no context, no socio-economic backround, nothing, just simple caricature.

Why CCP thinks that such simplistic writing would encourage people to get involved into the storyline is completely beyond my understading. They either have very low opinion about intellectual capacity of player base to handle rich, complex storylines, or they are themselves incapable of creating such storylines.

I do not know which is worse.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Dex Nederland

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 18:30:00 +0000

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Fellas, it was pretty much expected that some of these leaders would be scumbags. Someone's gotta be the bad guy. I don't know why you're making all these silly germany allusions. I mean sure, there's some inspiration taken from history, but it doesn't mean CCP has ordered all Caldari players to march in goosestep and greet each other with heils.

The silly Germany allusions are just so easy to make; it isn't even a challenge to compare the historical German dictator and Heth. Anyone reading it will reference what they know in the real world and that will be 1930s-40s Germany.

CCP hasn't ordered anything, but there has always been this undercurrent of an idea that the Caldari State was fascist; some never agreed with that, but it was there. Now not only is it fascist, but it is the form of fascism with a racist twist. They don't need to order it - people are doing it all on their own.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Brandoe Chung

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 18:08:00 +0000

I want to know if CCP will allow player created events to affect the developing storyline. It would bring a new level of immersion to the game. I think more people would be interested in the FW if their actions had implications in the actual storyline. We've already seem some newsworthy things happenings take place, for instance the attack on Nourvukaiken and Jita. By themselves maybe not enough for a chronicle but maybe a reference to these events in a future chronicle would be good. Instead of just a random isolated event under the guise of FW.

I've payed a few games that have tried to go down the factional warfare route i.e. Guild Wars, and I'm only speaking for myself but I didn't know too many people who got involved with it. Sometimes it was fun to see what cities had changed hands but it did affect gameplay to any real extent.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 16:07:00 +0000

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Fellas, it was pretty much expected that some of these leaders would be scumbags. Someone's gotta be the bad guy. I don't know why you're making all these silly germany allusions. I mean sure, there's some inspiration taken from history, but it doesn't mean CCP has ordered all Caldari players to march in goosestep and greet each other with heils.

I couldnt agree more. I have never nor can never understand why people insist on things being shades of gray. Certainly almost everyone does everything for their own reasons but once and awhile you simply must encounter someone who is just plain evil or plain good otherwise how do you define your heros, your villians or decide who to fight for in a game?

In a video game espessially that is driven by RP, do you simply come up with an explaination that stays in the gray for why their leaders are doing such and such or do you paint one to be the rat bastard?

Something I would like to know however is how CCP intends to allow the FW story elements that they control to progress. IE will Heth meet his end only to be replaced by someone else? Will an eve chronicle reflect the caldari's capture of that one system at some point? etc and so forth.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by The Wicked1

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 15:51:00 +0000

Originally by: Gaelenus
Originally by: Gaius Kador
Where did the shades of grey go?

i agree with this completley i used to love eve because the story was so real people were just people no super good guys no super bad guys, it always seemed much more real to me and its hard to find a story world that tries to portray humans as just that human; with internal squabbles etc. It seems to me like ccp has just thrown that out the window to make some epic war, personally i dont like it i feel the whole thing could have been done in a way much more true to what the eve story was originally like.

Dont talk like the EVE story has changed. There was a war and now there is a war. Nothing new. If you read the old chronicles you'll see alot of ppl that are "Super" but I must disagree with you that there is a "Super" character in this story. Who would that be? The skinny guy? The news reporter? Or Heth when he was a security guard?

The last 3-4 stories have been awesome and though this one is lacking just a bit it could be setting us up for the next one... what Heth did after he was fired?

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Gaelenus

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 14:25:00 +0000

Originally by: Gaius Kador
Where did the shades of grey go?

i agree with this completley i used to love eve because the story was so real people were just people no super good guys no super bad guys, it always seemed much more real to me and its hard to find a story world that tries to portray humans as just that human; with internal squabbles etc. It seems to me like ccp has just thrown that out the window to make some epic war, personally i dont like it i feel the whole thing could have been done in a way much more true to what the eve story was originally like.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by DarVellon

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 14:10:00 +0000

Edited by: DarVellon on 15/07/2008 14:10:49
Kvander Godalming's post says it all

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Istvaan Shogaatsu

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 14:07:00 +0000

Fellas, it was pretty much expected that some of these leaders would be scumbags. Someone's gotta be the bad guy. I don't know why you're making all these silly germany allusions. I mean sure, there's some inspiration taken from history, but it doesn't mean CCP has ordered all Caldari players to march in goosestep and greet each other with heils.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Kvander Godalming

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 13:26:00 +0000

Can't honestly say I approve of it. I mean it was well-written and all, but Jesus.

Foiritan is all tough-minded and "I gave peace a chance and now I'mma kick some ass." Shakor is wise and (wisely) reluctant to assume the mantle of leadership, but puts the needs of his people above his own. And we learn these things first-hand, from watching their interactions with their subordinates.

And what do we Caldari get? A third-person film-noir that makes our guy look like the skinhead from Oz. Great.

Can't wait to see how Sarum turns out. Probably Cruella de Ville meets Torquemada or some shit.

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Tibus Heth = EVE's Adolph ******.

I think they're certainly angling for that, which sucks since the largest plurality of EVE's players are Caldari. The ones who pay attention to the storyline, like me, are suddenly very uncomfortable participating in FW.

To be fair though, Foiritan is not shaping up much better. He's so awful he called himself a monster.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Brandoe Chung

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 13:14:00 +0000

Edited by: Brandoe Chung on 15/07/2008 13:14:05
Could be that CCP is counting on us to decide this little war. Maybe they are hoping that if they infuse this kind of rhetoric into the story line, that a lot of the Caldari podders will rise up against Heth. Just because your character in the EVE universe has no idea about events that happened on Earth, doesn't mean you don't. A lot of us had family alive who fought in the last war, from a historical point of view it's still very fresh in the minds of society.

I can't speak for anyone but myself but it would be really hard for me to distance myself from that. I'm glad I'm Gallente, but if I was Caldari after reading this story I would join the Gallente milita right quick.

But you could look at it like this. Take a country like the United States. It has one head of state that all the mega corporations are behind, and it has been indulging in domestic spying and censorship for years, and yes even before 9/11 they have been doing this, maybe not to this extent or with this much publicity. It exists on some level in almost every so called 1st world country right now. No offense to any Americans out there just used it as an example.

So maybe there are more shades of grey than they are letting on. We still don't know the Jovian's motivations in this war.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Kade Jeekin

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 11:58:00 +0000

Originally by: Falstaff

The better part of valour is discretion; in the which better part I have saved my life.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Miyamoto Uroki

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 06:49:00 +0000

Also agree with most points in this thread. Especially with the above poster.

Shades of grey are always way more intersting, especially as the Eve universe is painted as a dark and cruel place mostly.
A little more twists for minmatar and caldari leaders would have been good.

Though I will wait with a full comment until I finished the Empyrean Age novel. Also people almost always forget about the fact that we simply DON'T know most of the things from the book or the chronicles. These are all out of character insights, which really no capsuleer as in-character can know of.
So despite you see lots of RL analogies and stuff (and ofc there are lots because inhabitants of eve are still human after all), your character won't even notice them. Not to mention your char has absolutely no knowledge of history of some weird place called "earth".

I find the different flavours of politics really impressive tbh. It reflects very nicely the situation on our reality on this small planet. And imho ccp always have added lots of shades of grey in the past, and I'm pretty confident that they will continue to do so in the future.

Yes, of course there is always room to do it more epic with even more details and sidestories, but who should pay for all the writers that would be needed. Not to mention of readers that would be willing to read all the stuff.

Originally by: Puupuu
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Sylvain Lemieux

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 06:08:00 +0000

Agree with many of the point raised here.

Bad form CCP. I understand that the writers probably didn't want to present each of these Chrons in the same way but we were promised an in depth look at the mindsets of all the four leaders in the time leading up to the war and this is more a random anecdote from the past of the most mysterious character in this war and we are no closer to understanding his motives/.

Certainly the backstory released has backed up accusations that the Caldari are being made into the bad guys. Something thats not really fair or cool with me. I want depth, not good vs evil and I want a deeper understanding of what is probably the most contrived and unbelievable event of eve history (The hostile Megacorps just giving up their independance to follow one ultranationalist without a shed of doubt).

It's not enough to say 'Read the novel and all would be explained' Faction Warfare has always been promised as the saviour of Roleplay in EVE and it's really starting to do the opposite. The IGS is overrun with repetitive 'My county beats your country' threads, the major roleplay corps/alliances of the Caldari have found it impossible to really support the actions of their nation because they have been so poorly explained and these chronicles are drawing the ideologies in a painfully familiar dichotomy.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Blackjack OMalley

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 04:41:00 +0000

Originally by: Jacob Mei

Bish: I mentally was thinking "heil Heth!" at the end. With the persicution of expatriot gallentes and what not thats been going on it really does seem like the caldari are quickly becoming space ****'s. I just hope though, for CCP's sake, we dont get a story that is eeriely similar to ally forces finding consintration camps.

Playing a Caldari and member of the militia, I both dread this possibility and find it at this point to be almost inevitable. Thanks, CCP!

Give him back the knife, because the children of men have need of it

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hurs Sokira

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 01:05:00 +0000

Edited by: Hurs Sokira on 15/07/2008 01:09:34
Edited by: Hurs Sokira on 15/07/2008 01:07:28

Originally by: Bish Ounen
I think this article reveals somethng that I have suspected since Heth's initial rise to power: Tibus Heth = EVE's Adolph Hitler.

Well, according to illustration, Tibus Heth = EVE's Race Bannon from "Jonny Quest"

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/logan122800/racebannon.jpg

Here are sneak-peak of alternative illustrations for "Better Part of Valour"

http://www.classicjq.com/art/production/images/DW1963_RaceAndVillain.jpg

http://www.classicjq.com/art/production/images%5CSR_Race.jpg

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Garion Avarr

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 00:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Thorradin
Originally by: Rook Highwind
And now we watch as every previously neutral player joins the French Revolution. Damned Gallente get to play the good guys yet again

This.

It's really annoying to see the Gallente seem to be chosen to be some ultra-mecca empire while the Amarr are regulated to the Inquisition, the Caldari are ****s, and the Minmatar are either forced slaves or willing slaves (for the Federation).

Plus the Federation's past and present mindset that seems to be very "we bring freedoms and equality, whether you like it or not and it's how we want it".

Well, we haven't had the Amarrian chron yet, maybe CCP will decide to paint them as good guys in it. Besides, I don't see that the Gallente really seem to be particularly an ultra-mecca empire, more an imperialist regime that forces its ideals (which work pretty well for it, even if there are problems, but might not work for everyone else) upon everyone else, willing or unwilling.

Hmm. Well, I won't go farther into the implications of that.

I wasn't sure at first if Heth was going to be Lenin or ******, but . . . it was pretty clear to me at first that it was one of the two, and it quickly became clear which one.

Speaking of which, did anyone else think of the Reichstag Fire when Malkalen happened?
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hurs Sokira

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 00:44:00 +0000

Edited by: Hurs Sokira on 15/07/2008 00:51:46
Edited by: Hurs Sokira on 15/07/2008 00:50:27

Originally by: Jacob Mei
Originally by: Gaius Kador
Where did the shades of grey go?

It got thrown out when CCP realized the vast majority of people want heros and villians to fight with/for.

Considering the fact that "vast majority of people" stay in EVE for about seven months, it is very sad to see that CCP is not trying to deepen the storyline to prolong this stay longer.

Instead CCP tries for a cheap trick: "Look! Space-****s!" Once novelty of playing a space-**** in Factional Warfare wears off in about couple of months, CCP expects that people will either move to 0.0 and abandon all attempts at roleplaying or exploring the storyline in any meaningful way, or just quit.

I just really do not understand this. It appears that CCP trying to make storylines and chronicles as formulaic and simplistic as possible. They have explicitly stated that they want to move people to 0.0 as much as possible, so it looks like making unpalatable Empire storylines is the way to achieve it.

Why do it? Can't we have good storylines in Empire AND in 0.0? Can't we have events influencing each other? I simply do not understand the current direction. It alienates long-term RPers who losing interest in staying with the game, newcomers find it hard to engage with shallow "heroes and villains", 0.0 Alliances have no reason to pay any attention to roleplaying. Players lose, CCP loses. Why do it then?

P.S. I find it very ironic that CCP censoring term "****" and Adolph ****** in their forums, yet they feel perfectly OK hinting at both with Tibus Heth and "Gallente concentration camps" and describing "Kristallnacht" in almost perfect details.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by rValdez5987

Tue, 15 Jul 2009 00:22:00 +0000

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Getting put on space station guard duty, for these guys, was like being told to cook and eat your own face.

I cant stop laughing. For some reason I found this part HILARIOUS.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Dex Nederland

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 23:22:00 +0000

Originally by: Jacob Mei
Well my concern is more that if CCP isnt careful they may end up turning EvE into WWII in space and then being accused of being unorginal or something along those lines.

It has already been done multiple times in multiple locations - I even had an entire post removed because I did a work around of the shortened version of National Socialism (****sm) and the failed Austrian artist (******) to try and explain what I was saying.

Originally by: Borg9
Edited by: Borg9 on 14/07/2008 20:49:44
I liked this story because it explains how the Caldari State really is. I like being apart of a Axis-like powerhouse like the Caldari State. Freedom of speech is bad because ppl say stupid sh*t and you can't kill them after:( Who cares about the hippie-frenchie gal all they want to do is pic flowers,smoke pot, and listen to soft rock. For the Caldari State!!Hile Heth!!!!
Why is a Axis Alliance in WW2 censored? Man I hate this politically-correct world.

But it wasn't like that and that is not how it was described in most of the material before May 2008.
KK had ZERO say in what NOH published and very little in what LD's media outlet published.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 23:12:00 +0000

Originally by: Gaius Kador
Where did the shades of grey go?

It got thrown out when CCP realized the vast majority of people want heros and villians to fight with/for.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Gaius Kador

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 23:07:00 +0000

Where did the shades of grey go?
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Hieder

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 22:19:00 +0000

I hope there are more pieces like this written, showing the tensions the TRUE patriots are having with Heth. Then perhaps he will be seen as lowdown political slimeball he truely is.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 21:26:00 +0000

Originally by: Thorradin

Plus the Federation's past and present mindset that seems to be very "we bring freedoms and equality, whether you like it or not and it's how we want it".

We are the Gallente. Lower your sheilds and surrender your ships. we will add your race and technology to our own empire. You will adapt to the Gallente way of life. Resistance is futile.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Borg9

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 20:46:00 +0000

Edited by: Borg9 on 14/07/2008 20:49:44
I liked this story because it explains how the Caldari State really is. I like being apart of a Axis-like powerhouse like the Caldari State. Freedom of speech is bad because ppl say stupid sh*t and you can't kill them after:( Who cares about the hippie-frenchie gal all they want to do is pic flowers,smoke pot, and listen to soft rock. For the Caldari State!!Hile Heth!!!!
Why is a Axis Alliance in WW2 censored? Man I hate this politically-correct world.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Thorradin

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 20:28:00 +0000

Originally by: Rook Highwind
And now we watch as every previously neutral player joins the French Revolution. Damned Gallente get to play the good guys yet again

This.

It's really annoying to see the Gallente seem to be chosen to be some ultra-mecca empire while the Amarr are regulated to the Inquisition, the Caldari are ****s, and the Minmatar are either forced slaves or willing slaves (for the Federation).

Plus the Federation's past and present mindset that seems to be very "we bring freedoms and equality, whether you like it or not and it's how we want it".

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 20:07:00 +0000

Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Jacob Mei
Dex: I was refering to the comment the guy made, to paraphrase: "What happened to the needs of the many are more important than the needs of the one?" He goes on to say that alot of people seem more happy about the fact that there is a central leader but he feels the state has changed as a result. Another thing to note is towards the end the whole article was scrubbed by orders from higher ups which, if the news reporters reaction is to be taken seriously, is something completely out of the norm for the caldari.

Good points and thanks for pointing them out. I did need a second glance through it. I am not sure it is a Caldari media corporation that is putting the piece together, but perhaps it is NOH or something else. Agency Central? What organization is that, is that a sub-division of the Caldari Providence Directorate (Provist)?

I would say that whole articles/news pieces can and are scrubbed by higher ups throughout Caldari megacorporations before Heth. If one article paints KK in a bad light, Echelon won't run it but NOH will. The media in the State being an engine to drive sales of corporate products, make your corporation look 'more' Caldari than the other guys, etc. So if it was out of the State, I doubt it was Echelon Entertainment subsidary; EE is pushing the official story since Heth became CEO of KK.

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Bish: I mentally was thinking "heil Heth!" at the end. With the persicution of expatriot gallentes and what not thats been going on it really does seem like the caldari are quickly becoming space ****'s. I just hope though, for CCP's sake, we dont get a story that is eeriely similar to ally forces finding consintration camps.

We were there more than a month ago, we have been watching this coming for a long time. It is a challenge to play a character based more defending/supporting corporate rights (read State rights as in US Civil War), when it seems like there is a push to make the State like late 1930s, early 1940s Germany.

Well my concern is more that if CCP isnt careful they may end up turning EvE into WWII in space and then being accused of being unorginal or something along those lines.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Rook Highwind

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 19:56:00 +0000

And now we watch as every previously neutral player joins the French Revolution. Damned Gallente get to play the good guys yet again

Also adds a new twist to the idea of Caldari being CCP's 'chosen race'

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Dex Nederland

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 19:44:00 +0000

Originally by: Jacob Mei
Dex: I was refering to the comment the guy made, to paraphrase: "What happened to the needs of the many are more important than the needs of the one?" He goes on to say that alot of people seem more happy about the fact that there is a central leader but he feels the state has changed as a result. Another thing to note is towards the end the whole article was scrubbed by orders from higher ups which, if the news reporters reaction is to be taken seriously, is something completely out of the norm for the caldari.

Good points and thanks for pointing them out. I did need a second glance through it. I am not sure it is a Caldari media corporation that is putting the piece together, but perhaps it is NOH or something else. Agency Central? What organization is that, is that a sub-division of the Caldari Providence Directorate (Provist)?

I would say that whole articles/news pieces can and are scrubbed by higher ups throughout Caldari megacorporations before Heth. If one article paints KK in a bad light, Echelon won't run it but NOH will. The media in the State being an engine to drive sales of corporate products, make your corporation look 'more' Caldari than the other guys, etc. So if it was out of the State, I doubt it was Echelon Entertainment subsidary; EE is pushing the official story since Heth became CEO of KK.

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Bish: I mentally was thinking "heil Heth!" at the end. With the persicution of expatriot gallentes and what not thats been going on it really does seem like the caldari are quickly becoming space ****'s. I just hope though, for CCP's sake, we dont get a story that is eeriely similar to ally forces finding consintration camps.

We were there more than a month ago, we have been watching this coming for a long time. It is a challenge to play a character based more defending/supporting corporate rights (read State rights as in US Civil War), when it seems like there is a push to make the State like late 1930s, early 1940s Germany.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Isilwen Nightfall

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 19:38:00 +0000

Indeed, i'm a bit disappointed too.

Maybe i was expecting something a bit more epic, but meh. It's Caldari style.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Kyoko Sakoda

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 19:19:00 +0000

Ah, it's not like the media would have published anyway. None of them have guts these days.

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 18:43:00 +0000

Dex: I was refering to the comment the guy made, to paraphrase: "What happened to the needs of the many are more important than the needs of the one?" He goes on to say that alot of people seem more happy about the fact that there is a central leader but he feels the state has changed as a result. Another thing to note is towards the end the whole article was scrubbed by orders from higher ups which, if the news reporters reaction is to be taken seriously, is something completely out of the norm for the caldari.

Bish: I mentally was thinking "heil Heth!" at the end. With the persicution of expatriot gallentes and what not thats been going on it really does seem like the caldari are quickly becoming space ****'s. I just hope though, for CCP's sake, we dont get a story that is eeriely similar to ally forces finding consintration camps.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Bish Ounen

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 18:26:00 +0000

I think this article reveals somethng that I have suspected since Heth's initial rise to power: Tibus Heth = EVE's Adolph Hitler.

Don't believe me? Take a close look at it, it's all there; Cruelty as a soldier, involvement with labor organizations, pseudo-communist rhetoric, Hyper-Nationalism, Blatant racism and racial scapegoating for internal problems, a willingness to sacrifice others for personal advancement, and a consistent grab for power.

Any one of these things alone would be nothing. Put them together, and you have a recipe for National Socialism/Dictatorship on a Galactic level. Trust me, it will only get worse. Next comes the straightforward nationalizing of industries not currently under Heth's control, and the call for "Caldari Purity" which will lead to pogroms and death camps for Gallente Ex-Pats still living in Caldari space.

Congratulations Caldari, You have just become Intergalactic Space Nazis.

Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Yann Ephemere

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 18:13:00 +0000

"And then suddenly theres this mad shuffle of movement, and the egger stands up and kind of stumbles back, and the guy he was talking to is just kind of sitting in his chair shaking, and something black and round falls from his hand, under the table."

I'm very curious to hear the community's ideas on this.

New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Dex Nederland

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 17:36:00 +0000

Originally by: Jacob Mei
The guy in the image, is that Heth?

Also, I dont know if you would be able to answer this, will you be writing storys that reflect the status the war as it is in game? IE if the Gallente bust out and take over alot of the caldari space would that event be reflected in a eve chronicle?

Really liked the story, interesting glimpse as to how the state is changing and what its people feel about the change.

I totally disagree with your assessment that is shows how the State is changing. It shows Heth was a racial bigot a decade plus ago. That is about the only insight into Heth I got from it. I suppose it shows that the corporate employees are just as unsure about what is going on as the long time loyal Caldari pod pilots.

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For the past three Mondays we've published a special series of Chronicles intended to shed some light on the four empires' political minds. We continue today with The Better Part of Valor, a Chronicle focusing on the Caldari State's fearless leader, Tibus Heth.

It fails to shed any additional light on the political mind of Tibus Heth. The last article, "Dark End of Space" shed more light on the Caldari reasoning in my opinion - picking up where the last war left off (or at least that is what I assume is going on).

I am very disappointed in this one compared to the "Paths They Chosen" and "Silent Furies".

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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by Jacob Mei

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 16:26:00 +0000

The guy in the image, is that Heth?

Also, I dont know if you would be able to answer this, will you be writing storys that reflect the status the war as it is in game? IE if the Gallente bust out and take over alot of the caldari space would that event be reflected in a eve chronicle?

Really liked the story, interesting glimpse as to how the state is changing and what its people feel about the change.
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New Special Chronicle: The Better Part of Valor - by CCP Gnauton

Mon, 14 Jul 2009 14:56:00 +0000

Hi guys,

Time for another installment in our series of special chronicles. This week's story, "The Better Part of Valor", details a past incident in the life of Tibus Heth, the Caldari State's fearless leader.

Enjoy.