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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Horny girl1]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=2#33</link>
      <description><![CDATA[we going in to WAR !!! <img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_twisted.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Twisted Evil'><img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_twisted.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Twisted Evil'><img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_twisted.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Twisted Evil'><br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Swift Wind]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=2#32</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />For the curious, we use a 3rd party service to send bulk emails for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is spamfilters. Many ISPs are on hairtrigger response for spam and a series of protocols are evolving to help legitimate bulk email navigate those filters. CCP is not in a position to spend the time to become masters of this arcane art, so we rely on a 3rd party to do it for us. <br /><br />Our service providers are also able to track and measure the effectiveness of the email campaigns in complex and delightful ways and it would be hard and expensive for CCP to build its own parallel technology to do that.<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />LOL, we do the EXACT same thing. <br /><br />Trying to navigate todays spam filers, blacklists, etc. is a freaking nightmare, hell we don't even send marketing mail off our servers and currently we got blacklisted by a major ISP for automated emails sent from the hosting company server to customers. <br /><br />BAH it sucks!<br /><br /><br /><center><img src="http://6rasshopper.com/sig.jpg" border=0></center><br /><font color=green><i><b><center>Anywhere, Anytime. </center></b></i></font id=green>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Tarminic]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Tarminic on 07/07/2008 20:56:20</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 06/07/2008 06:56:39</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Fastercart</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 05/07/2008 23:51:51</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade><b></b><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><u><i><b>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .</b></i></u><br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I bolded the explanation.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I saw that<br /><br />Re read my Explination again.<br /><br />the company they are useing is on a Global blacklist for hosting spam. anything comeing from their "address" or even from their dedicated IP address will automaticaly be chucked into everyones spam list.<br /><br />theirfor CCP decided to pay some third party (CP20 in this case) who is a known and blacklisted spammer to send out the Emails for them in order to get past everyones spam protection. . . .<br /><br />in other words, <br /><br />THEY GAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO A KNOWN SPAMER<br /><br />WORSE THEY PAYED THEM TO TAKE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM THEM<br /><br />DO I REALY NEED TO SPELL OUT JUST HOW !@#$ STUPIDO CCP WAS IN DOING SO?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Funny, they're not on the spam list in on my GMail account, and to this day I have not received a single spam e-mail so I know it's working. Maybe if Yahoo's e-mail service wasn't such crap...<br />----------------<br /><b><a href="http://tinyurl.com/37u9k8" target="_blank">Play EVE: Downtime Madness</a> v0.83 (Updated 7/3)</b>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Lord Fitz]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#30</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>ElrondMD</i><hr height=1 noshade>There is not a single good reason to have subscribers come to accept unknown senders as CCP mails, its unprofessional and opens the end user to risks associated with copycat fakes.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />There are plenty of good reasons, but the rest of your point stands, especially with a mail that takes you to the login page.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Robert Rosenberg]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 06/07/2008 06:56:39</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Fastercart</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 05/07/2008 23:51:51</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade><b></b><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><u><i><b>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .</b></i></u><br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I bolded the explanation.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I saw that<br /><br />Re read my Explination again.<br /><br />the company they are useing is on a Global blacklist for hosting spam. anything comeing from their "address" or even from their dedicated IP address will automaticaly be chucked into everyones spam list.<br /><br />theirfor CCP decided to pay some third party (CP20 in this case) who is a known and blacklisted spammer to send out the Emails for them in order to get past everyones spam protection. . . .<br /><br />in other words, <br /><br />THEY GAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO A KNOWN SPAMER<br /><br />WORSE THEY PAYED THEM TO TAKE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM THEM<br /><br />DO I REALY NEED TO SPELL OUT JUST HOW !@#$ STUPIDO CCP WAS IN DOING SO?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />You should probably use two e-mail addresses then huh, one to sign up for things and one for personal correspondence that does not get spammed. Gmail is free so no need to get outraged yo.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Lord Fitz]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#29</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade>THEY GAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO A KNOWN SPAMER<br /><br />WORSE THEY PAYED THEM TO TAKE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM THEM<br /><br />DO I REALY NEED TO SPELL OUT JUST HOW !@#$ STUPIDO CCP WAS IN DOING SO?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Being on a Spam blacklist doesn't make you a spammer. It means you've been flagged for sending bulk emails. In this case those emails were all sent to people that subscribed to eve, and gave up their email with the indication it would only be used for eve-related mailings, like this one (not third party advertising/spam). <br /><br />PLENTY of companies send out solicited email like this and make it onto spam blacklists. This DOESN'T !!! mean that they share your email with other people that will send you SPAM !!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />The reason they make it onto spam lists is one of two reasons: <br />a) an automated system picks up that a large number of mails is sent and so it is possible that it is spam<br />b) someone marks it as spam rather than removing themself from the mailing list<br /><br />That doesn't mean that it is actually SPAM. I go through my junk mailbox and regularly pull out mail that is marked as spam but I am genuinely interested in, from people I gave my email to just so they could send me exactly that. This is worlds apart from real SPAM which is people you never gave your email to sending you mails you don't want.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Raymon James]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 06/07/2008 06:56:39</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Fastercart</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 05/07/2008 23:51:51</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade><b></b><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><u><i><b>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .</b></i></u><br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I bolded the explanation.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I saw that<br /><br />Re read my Explination again.<br /><br />the company they are useing is on a Global blacklist for hosting spam. anything comeing from their "address" or even from their dedicated IP address will automaticaly be chucked into everyones spam list.<br /><br />theirfor CCP decided to pay some third party (CP20 in this case) who is a known and blacklisted spammer to send out the Emails for them in order to get past everyones spam protection. . . .<br /><br />in other words, <br /><br />THEY GAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO A KNOWN SPAMER<br /><br />WORSE THEY PAYED THEM TO TAKE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES FROM THEM<br /><br />DO I REALY NEED TO SPELL OUT JUST HOW !@#$ STUPIDO CCP WAS IN DOING SO?<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Lord Fitz]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#26</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade>RyanD<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .<br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Another reason why they don't use their own domain. Can you imagine if eve-online.com ended up on a heap of blacklists ? It might prevent some of the emails necessary for day to day running of the business from reaching their targets ;)<br /><br />I've had to send out just 30-50 emails before, and I know the hassle that it causes, the amount of time and effort using someone else saves means their programmers can get back to fixing the bugs.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 6 Jul 2008 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Fastercart]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 05/07/2008 23:51:51</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade><b>There was an error with our bulk mail service provider. The mail was not sent as tested. It should have had a more correct email address than the one that appears in the email that was transmitted. We apologize for the confusion and we are taking steps to address the issue internally and with our service provider</b><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .<br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>I bolded the explanation.<br />__<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI9SOpB2Sms" target="_blank">Rorqual</a> AKA <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWGco3T4pLw" target="_blank">Mega Maid</a><br /><br />Oh, my God. It's Mega Maid. She's gone from suck to blow.]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Raymon James]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Raymon James on 05/07/2008 23:51:51</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade>There was an error with our bulk mail service provider. The mail was not sent as tested. It should have had a more correct email address than the one that appears in the email that was transmitted. We apologize for the confusion and we are taking steps to address the issue internally and with our service provider.<br /><br />For the curious, we use a 3rd party service to send bulk emails for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is spamfilters. Many ISPs are on hairtrigger response for spam and a series of protocols are evolving to help legitimate bulk email navigate those filters. CCP is not in a position to spend the time to become masters of this arcane art, so we rely on a 3rd party to do it for us. <br /><br />Our service providers are also able to track and measure the effectiveness of the email campaigns in complex and delightful ways and it would be hard and expensive for CCP to build its own parallel technology to do that.<br /><br />I hope that provides some illumination.<br /><br />RyanD<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>your "expert third party" is on Yahoos email blacklist for spamming though, . . .<br /><br />. . . otherwise this email would have never landed in my spam box<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Complete Tart]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jenny Spitfire</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Maybe it is less laggy for Eve if they send mails on different servers?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Why are you typing normally today??<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Chum Tea]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade>spamfilters<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />That's where I found my copy. Left it there, too.<br /><br />Seems that bulk mail service provider hasn't mastered the arcane art, yet, after all.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Thorradin]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />Why cant CCP use their own domains for sending email... handling petitions because of this seems to be a bad way to use resources.<br /><br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>because frankly at times <b>their</b> total idiots.<br /><br />Its the only logical reason I can think of!<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br /><img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_lol.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Laughing'><br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jim McGregor]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/07/2008 18:52:21</i></span><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Winterblink</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />Sounds like a black hat turns white phenomenon, not entirely unlike virus writers moving into computer security. I'd be willing to bet you the most expensive ship in Jim's collection that part or all of the organization in question started out trying to "navigate" those filters to sell erection dysfunction medication and fake Rolex watches.<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br /><img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_lol.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Laughing'><br /><br />Your mind takes me places I dont want to go. <img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_twisted.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Twisted Evil'><br /><br /><br />---<br />Its dead, Jim.<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Winterblink]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>CCP RyanD</i><hr height=1 noshade>For the curious, we use a 3rd party service to send bulk emails for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is spamfilters. Many ISPs are on hairtrigger response for spam and a series of protocols are evolving to help legitimate bulk email navigate those filters. CCP is not in a position to spend the time to become masters of this arcane art, so we rely on a 3rd party to do it for us. <br /><br />Our service providers are also able to track and measure the effectiveness of the email campaigns in complex and delightful ways and it would be hard and expensive for CCP to build its own parallel technology to do that.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Sounds like a black hat turns white phenomenon, not entirely unlike virus writers moving into computer security. I'd be willing to bet you the most expensive ship in Jim's collection that part or all of the organization in question started out trying to "navigate" those filters to sell erection dysfunction medication and fake Rolex watches.<br /><br />Then again that domain is based in Montreal, so I should probably thank CCP for their donations to the Canadian information technology sector. :)<br /><br /><div align=right><img src="http://winterblink.com/image/sig/wb_sig1.jpg" border=0><br /><a href="http://www.warpdriveactive.com" target="_blank">warp drive active</a> | <a href="http://winterblink.com/env" target="_blank">nature vraie</a></div id=right>]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jim McGregor]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<br />Thanks Ryan. Makes sense.<br /><br />---<br />Its dead, Jim.<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by CCP RyanD]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[There was an error with our bulk mail service provider. The mail was not sent as tested. It should have had a more correct email address than the one that appears in the email that was transmitted. We apologize for the confusion and we are taking steps to address the issue internally and with our service provider.<br /><br />For the curious, we use a 3rd party service to send bulk emails for a number of reasons but the biggest reason is spamfilters. Many ISPs are on hairtrigger response for spam and a series of protocols are evolving to help legitimate bulk email navigate those filters. CCP is not in a position to spend the time to become masters of this arcane art, so we rely on a 3rd party to do it for us. <br /><br />Our service providers are also able to track and measure the effectiveness of the email campaigns in complex and delightful ways and it would be hard and expensive for CCP to build its own parallel technology to do that.<br /><br />I hope that provides some illumination.<br /><br />RyanD<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jim McGregor]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Rhak Amharr</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jenny Spitfire</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Maybe it is less laggy for Eve if they send mails on different servers?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Ok, who are you, and why did you hack Jenny's account?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />She gets around. :)<br /><br />I think several people use that account.<br /><br />---<br />Its dead, Jim.<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Daelorn]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#15</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Rhak Amharr</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jenny Spitfire</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Maybe it is less laggy for Eve if they send mails on different servers?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Ok, who are you, and why did you hack Jenny's account?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />or are we on a new Jenny?<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Rhak Amharr]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#14</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jenny Spitfire</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Maybe it is less laggy for Eve if they send mails on different servers?<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br />Ok, who are you, and why did you hack Jenny's account?<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Dihania]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Viqtoria</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>ElrondMD</i><hr height=1 noshade>There is not a single good reason to have subscribers come to accept unknown senders as CCP mails, its unprofessional and opens the end user to risks associated with copycat fakes.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br /><u><i><b>this</b></i></u> TBFH<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />I didn't send those cp111oneeleven.com mails... I swear!<br /><br /><font color=pink>Bad practice is bad</font id=pink><br /><br /><br />.<br /><b><font color=yellow>EVE:</font id=yellow> <font color=pink>"The Hand-holding Age"</font id=pink>.<br />I need isk!</b>Accepting donations.<br />Renting sig space.Taking various jobs.]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Viqtoria]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>ElrondMD</i><hr height=1 noshade>There is not a single good reason to have subscribers come to accept unknown senders as CCP mails, its unprofessional and opens the end user to risks associated with copycat fakes.<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br /><u><i><b>this</b></i></u> TBFH<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by ElrondMD]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[There is not a single good reason to have subscribers come to accept unknown senders as CCP mails, its unprofessional and opens the end user to risks associated with copycat fakes.<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jenny Spitfire]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />Maybe it is less laggy for Eve if they send mails on different servers?<br />---------<br /><i>Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!</i><br /><br /><a href="/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=756443" target="_blank">Go vote!</a><br />Put voice for silent majority.<br />LOVE PVP, HATE grief]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jim McGregor]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size:7pt;"><i>Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/07/2008 08:30:42</i></span><br /><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />Why cant CCP use their own domains for sending email... handling petitions because of this seems to be a bad way to use resources.<br /><br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>because frankly at times their total idiots.<br /><br />Its the only logical reason I can think of!<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />No, I think they have their reasons. It would help me understand why they do this by finding out what those reasons are. :)<br /><br />---<br />Its dead, Jim.<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Karanth]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Can't read any other threads before poasting spam WTF!<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by F'nog]]></title>
      <link>http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=814700&amp;page=1#7</link>
      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Raymon James</i><hr height=1 noshade><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />Why cant CCP use their own domains for sending email... handling petitions because of this seems to be a bad way to use resources.<br /><br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>because frankly at times their total idiots.<br /><br />Its the only logical reason I can think of!<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><br />I concur. They can do some really great things, but then they seem to feel that they must balance those out with the most ridiculous possible choices in others.<br /><br /><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Kazuma Saruwatari</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said<img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_lol.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Laughing'><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Chribba</i><hr height=1 noshade>Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! <img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_smile.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Smile'> /me bows<hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Raymon James]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<BLOCKQUOTE><font face="Verdana"><img src="http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_icons/icon_quote_message.gif" border="0" > <b>Originally by:</b> <i>Jim McGregor</i><hr height=1 noshade><br />Why cant CCP use their own domains for sending email... handling petitions because of this seems to be a bad way to use resources.<br /><br /><hr height=1 noshade></font></BLOCKQUOTE>because frankly at times their total idiots.<br /><br />Its the only logical reason I can think of!<br />]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Jim McGregor]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<br />Why cant CCP use their own domains for sending email... handling petitions because of this seems to be a bad way to use resources.<br /><br /><br />---<br />Its dead, Jim.<br />]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Vala Draaken]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Finnally found the other thread.<br /><br /><a href="http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=814414&page=1#14" target="_blank">Official statement</a><br /><br />Hope that helps,<br /><br />Vala D.<br /><br />--------<br /><img src="http://eve-files.com/dl/110539" border=0>]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Vala Draaken]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[oops, That was my alt <img src=http://myeve.eve-online.com/bitmaps/img/board_smilies/icon_redface.gif border=0 width=15 align=middle alt='Embarassed'><br />--------<br /><img src="http://eve-files.com/dl/110539" border=0>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Vala Darkside]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Yes, I got it, too. I petitioned it and it turns out it is an official mail from CCP.<br /><br />Hope that helps,<br /><br />Vala D.<br />--------<br /><img src="http://eve-files.com/dl/110539" border=0>]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[cp20.com spam WTF! - by Bambi]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<br /> Anyone had this e-mail?<br /><br />WAR IS UPON US!<br /><br />&gt;&gt;&gt; EMERGENCY ACTION MESSAGE &lt;&lt;&lt;<br /><br />SENDER: CONCORD DIRECT ENFORCEMENT DIVISION<br /><br />GENERAL BROADCAST<br /><br />MESSAGE READS:<br /><br />TO ALL PILOTS:<br /><br />CONCORD HAS RECEIVED AUTHENTICATED COMMUNICATIONS FROM AMARR EMPIRE, CALDARI STATE, GALLENTE FEDERATION AND MINMATAR REPUBLIC MILITARY REPRESENTATIVES CONFIRMING THAT A STATE OF WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED WITHIN THE NEW EDEN CLUSTER.<br /><br />DIRECT ENFORCEMENT DIVISION ASSETS HAVE BEEN REDEPLOYED TO PROTECT CONCORD FACILITIES. PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR IN-SYSTEM PROTECTION OF NEUTRALS AND EMPIRE NATIONALS HAS SHIFTED TO LOCAL MILITARY AUTHORITIES.<br /><br />CONCORD CANNOT ASSURE THE SAFETY OR SECURITY OF ANY SHIP IN TRANSIT AT THIS TIME.<br /><br />PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM CONCORD DIRECTORATE:<br /><br />DIPLOMACY HAS FAILED. OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU ALL.<br /><br />&gt;&gt;&gt; MESSAGE ENDS &lt;&lt;&lt;<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - <br />With the launch of Empyrean Age, the newest expansion for EVE Online, pilots can now engage in solo, small group or even fleet battles any time you want via a new feature called Factional Warfare. Players have asked for easier, more accessible PvP fights and to have the ability to find friends to fight with without making the commitment to 0.0 space and Alliances. CCP has answered with Factional Warfare - war is upon New Eden and your help is needed.<br /><br />Enlist today and add 14 free days to your account.<br />http://cp20.com/Tracking/*************<br /> <br />Log in, and see what you've been missing.<br /><br />Players can now enlist in any of the four empire militias, granting access to special missions into contested space and epic PvP action where you can engage in combat against opposing militia forces in high security space - without CONCORD interference. Each combat zone is full of missions built for new and veteran players alike - including those accessible only to pilots in inexpensive frigates. <br /><br />Enlisted pilots will also be able to fight for the control of entire star systems in designated combat zones. Militias battle over control bunkers in each zone which can help direct that system's defenses. Capturing and controlling these systems is critical to determining who will win and who will lose in the war raging across New Eden.<br /><br />We want you back. If you left EVE Online because you found it difficult to find PvP action, we are confident Factional Warfare solves that problem. If you haven't played EVE Online recently you will also be surprised by the incredible new graphics released last year in the Trinity expansion as well.<br /><br /><br />Offer valid until July 31st, 2008. If user converts their Trial account into a Paid Subscription, payment options include a valid credit card, debit card or direct debit.<br /><br /><br /><br />This email was sent to: ###### You received this e-mail because you are or have been a subscriber of EVE Online. If you have questions about the contents of this e-mail, please contact Customer Service at support@eve-online.com. If you wish to stop receiving future mailings from EVE online then please follow this link: http://cp20.com/Tracking/t.fo?1********<br />Powered by CampaignerPro.<br /><br />http://www.campaigner.com/campaignerpro/?visitor_id=2<br /><br />EVE is dead, long live EVE!<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
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