EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by CCP Explorer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#15 Originally by: Alora Venoda
i am guessing the next "normal EVE patch" will automatically include the fix in this optional patch?
The next full client release will include this fix. If we release another optional patch before the next full client release then it will also be accumulative.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games]]> Sat, 21 Jun 2009 10:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8142982 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Alora Venoda]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#14
perhaps if CCP called it a "hotfix" then all the Windows users would better understand what it is, as they are used to similar kinds of patches coming from microsoft.

i am guessing the next "normal EVE patch" will automatically include the fix in this optional patch?

Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.

Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:22:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141220 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Tarminic]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#13 Originally by: Sirion Fujiwara
What I found amazing was that the patch essentially dealt with what one would think was a minor problem, and yet it was over 4MB is size!?
But then, I don't know the first thing about programming or compiling..... ugh

It replaced the file where the code was located, I believe. The code might have only been 10 lines long but if the file was 4 megs then the patch would have also been 4 megs. Alternatively, this patch could just be a completely rewritten version of that functionality that fixed the bug.
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Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141170 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Goremageddon Box]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#12 Originally by: Sirion Fujiwara
What I found amazing was that the patch essentially dealt with what one would think was a minor problem, and yet it was over 4MB is size!?
But then, I don't know the first thing about programming or compiling..... ugh


4mb is rather small for today's standards.
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141124 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Sirion Fujiwara]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#11 But then, I don't know the first thing about programming or compiling..... ugh
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:05:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141123 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Goremageddon Box]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#10 Originally by: CCP Explorer
The difference in the reprocessing window is that before it would reprocess and not close, now it reprocess and closes. There is also a "close" button in addition to the X button in the top-right corner. You can safely uninstall the optional patch from the ESC menu and then reinstall it later (from the ESC menu again) to see the changes yourself.

The optional patch and the disconnects are a pure coincidence. The code changes were very limited and in no way part of the network layer. The disconnects seem to be a part of a general "internet lack of well-being" in the last few days.


Ah. Never had an issue closing it, but after FW, my reprocessing window takes ATLEAST 4 minutes to complete.

just a FYI.
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:04:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141122 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by NightF0x]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#9 Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Mikamir
Just a suggestion here. It might be a good idea to say exactly what you (CCP) has in mind when putting out "optional" patches like these. While I understand what is being done, there are those that probably would opt out (or in) if they had that information. Also, it would explain what is going on with people so as to reduce speculation when a percieved problem arises.
I'm not sure what you mean... in the pop-up message you got when logging in there was a link to our web site that detailed the change in the optional patch.


It's probably because he types in his pwd then walks away to take a leak then comes back and selects character. After that he just spaces out for about an hour
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]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 23:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141121 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by CCP Explorer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#8 Edited by: CCP Explorer on 20/06/2008 23:00:28
Originally by: Goremageddon Box
I noticed no change in the optional patch for the reprocessing window, and never had D/C problems till it was installed.

But seeing as how a lot of people are blaming the internet's health and not you guys, i just wanted some clarification.
The difference in the reprocessing window is that before it would reprocess and not close, now it reprocess and closes. There is also a "close" button in addition to the X button in the top-right corner. You can safely uninstall the optional patch from the ESC menu and then reinstall it later (from the ESC menu again) to see the changes yourself.

The optional patch and the disconnects are a pure coincidence. The code changes were very limited and in no way part of the network layer. The disconnects seem to be a part of a general "internet lack of well-being" in the last few days.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 22:57:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141120 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by CCP Explorer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#7 Originally by: Mikamir
Just a suggestion here. It might be a good idea to say exactly what you (CCP) has in mind when putting out "optional" patches like these. While I understand what is being done, there are those that probably would opt out (or in) if they had that information. Also, it would explain what is going on with people so as to reduce speculation when a percieved problem arises.
I'm not sure what you mean... in the pop-up message you got when logging in there was a link to our web site that detailed the change in the optional patch.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 22:54:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8141070 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Goremageddon Box]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#6 Originally by: CCP Explorer
The optional patch system reduces the complexity of the testing process.

We only provide the optional patch against the current version of the client, which saves us having to test 57 patches against older version in multiple scenarios. We're only updating one file in the build, which minimises the variables in the testing process.

On your end, if you are not being affected by the issues being fixed or you don't mind then you can also minimise the risk by not installing it. With a full client patch everybody would be required to install. And finally, a full client patch would be larger than the minimal download we can offer with the optional patch.


Alright thanks for the quick response.

Would just think from a programming point of view a universal client is easier than some clients fixed and some not.

I noticed no change in the optional patch for the reprocessing window, and never had D/C problems till it was installed.

But seeing as how a lot of people are blaming the internet's health and not you guys, i just wanted some clarification.

And again Thank you for the quick response. :)

fly safe. o7
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 22:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8140785 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Mikamir]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#4
Again, this is only a suggestion. Wink

The more you know...the more you know you don't know!]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 21:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8140783 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Goremageddon Box]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#5 Originally by: Mikamir
Just a suggestion here. It might be a good idea to say exactly what you (CCP) has in mind when putting out "optional" patches like these. While I understand what is being done, there are those that probably would opt out (or in) if they had that information. Also, it would explain what is going on with people so as to reduce speculation when a percieved problem arises.

Again, this is only a suggestion. Wink


if you look they have info on it.
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 21:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8140784 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by CCP Explorer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#3
We only provide the optional patch against the current version of the client, which saves us having to test 57 patches against older version in multiple scenarios. We're only updating one file in the build, which minimises the variables in the testing process.

On your end, if you are not being affected by the issues being fixed or you don't mind then you can also minimise the risk by not installing it. With a full client patch everybody would be required to install. And finally, a full client patch would be larger than the minimal download we can offer with the optional patch.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 21:50:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8140736 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Doc Fury]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637&page=1#2
Oh wait, I was thinking about the regular patches, nevermind.


It's so safe to play along, little soldiers in a row
Falling in and out of love, with something sweet to throw away.
I want something good to DIE for...to make it beautiful to live.]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 21:16:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8140552 <![CDATA[Optional patch.... - by Goremageddon Box]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=802637
Wouldn't this eventually make people who did/didn't update it have different mumbo jumbo on their clients?

Wouldn't that be BAD?

I believe a fix should, and needs, to be mandatory.

Also, I still have reprocessing lag, so it didn't even get fixed.

Yes I cleared cache. I still don't understand why a game would have "Optional patches." I can understand optional graphics since it's just an easy overlay, but game mechanics?

wth?
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