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EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Bald Rikk]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#30 Better tracking
Slower targets

I'd recommend slower targets... fit a statis webifier.

You may also consider blasters for the improbed tracking they offer and better DPS. But you wil have to work more to manage range.

-- Baldrikk

Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.

]]> Thu, 26 Jun 2009 23:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8177990 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Pteranodon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#29

Originally by: Boz Well

Your argument is derailing quickly. I never said, nor am I saying now, that missioning with max skills is not more efficient than missioning with low skills. Of COURSE BS 5 is useful. Of COURSE T2 weapons are useful. Hell, also having full Estamel's gear would be useful. That does NOT lead to the conclusion that you should wait to do level 4's until you have max skills and a full Estamel-fit BS.

The proper time to start level 4 missions is simply when your personal risk/reward analysis says it's time. That can be with just a few million SP in a Dominix or Raven, depending on the player. You might find it fun to be able to fly multiple BS with max skills and T2 guns, but that has jack to do with when someone should start level 4's.

If a new player wants to start level 4's with only a few million SP, he can and should do so imo. He will be slower than a higher-SP player, but that's irrelevant. He might not have the option to fly multiple BS with T2 gear, but that's irrelevant. So long as he uses eve-survival, plays cautiously and preferrably uses a noob-friendly ship, he'll make substantially more cash than he would from level 3's. And more importantly, he'll be doing what he wants to do (level 4 missions).

Everybody in Eve can do what they want. I guess if you haven't got a tec2 tank or tec2 this or that that is fine. Tec2 is only a consequence of being better-it is not the be all of everything but it sure helps. Do it your way I'm only trying to add value & certainly not trying to upset anybody I mean I've only got a standing of 9+ with Caldari Navy through mission running so I'm not really that qualified to make these comments.
]]> Wed, 25 Jun 2009 15:37:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8168181 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Boz Well]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#28
The proper time to start level 4 missions is simply when your personal risk/reward analysis says it's time. That can be with just a few million SP in a Dominix or Raven, depending on the player. You might find it fun to be able to fly multiple BS with max skills and T2 guns, but that has jack to do with when someone should start level 4's.

If a new player wants to start level 4's with only a few million SP, he can and should do so imo. He will be slower than a higher-SP player, but that's irrelevant. He might not have the option to fly multiple BS with T2 gear, but that's irrelevant. So long as he uses eve-survival, plays cautiously and preferrably uses a noob-friendly ship, he'll make substantially more cash than he would from level 3's. And more importantly, he'll be doing what he wants to do (level 4 missions).
]]> Tue, 24 Jun 2009 15:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8161368 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Pteranodon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#27 Edited by: Pteranodon on 24/06/2008 14:15:11
Edited by: Pteranodon on 24/06/2008 14:09:19

Originally by: Boz Well
Originally by: Pteranodon
We are back to that same old topic & it comes true so many times. You can't fly battleships with low skills. It is not enough to sit in a battleship- you need a good tank supported with all the supplementary skills.

I suggest you park that Battleship for a few months & train a solid tec2 tank & all associated skills. Then you will fly through missions at level 4 with much less concern than what you are having.

I reckon your base skill for battleships for level 4 missions must be around 8-10 million skill points- anything less & you will experience the problems you are getting & worse stand a chance of loosing that ship.

One final note for the trolling community I am not saying that you cant fly a BS with less points but being skilled right makes the experience far more rewarding.

I completely disagree. I'll admit the OP's choice of ship isn't the most noob friendly, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be doing level 4's. It just means he might need a change of ship until his SP improve. Ships like the Domi/Raven adapt perfectly to low SP chars. Without knowing his exact SP I can't say for sure whether I think he personally should be attempting level 4 missions, but level 3 missions until 10 million SP? Lol? Please.

With eve survival and a noob-friendly BS, there's no reason not to be completing level 4 missions with only a few million SP. And that's with only minimal risk, i.e. the risk that you might shoot the wrong group or somehow pull the entire room. But absent a boneheaded mistake while warp scrambled, you aren't going to lose a BS with lower SP. A little competence goes a long way to making up a lack of SP, at least for missions (which are easy to begin with).

Advising people to spend months doing mind-numbingly easy low-pay missions (i.e. level 3's) is advising them to play a boring game imo. Taking a low SP char into level 4's is honestly one of the more fun parts of PVE in this game, heh. Level 4's lose any semblance of a challenge once you learn the missions/get higher SP.

IMO, OP, get a dominix (or a Raven if you prefer) and try again once you train some basic skills if you don't have them already (i.e. armor tanking, heavy/sentry drones). You don't need t2 drones. You don't need t2 LAR's. You don't need t2 hardeners. And enjoy the challenge the missions provide while you can, heh.

As I said in my last paragraph I'm not saying that you cant fly a BS with less points but to fly it properly with acceptable risk balance takes more than a few million skill points.

Even the Raven takes 5-6 million skill points until it can tank acceptably & give good returns from missile damage. How do I know these things....because I've been where the OP has been & now missions are much more fun with a wide choice of ships & weapons & T2 defence.

One final thought to consider. Why did I train all my battleships to BS5? (Gallente & Caldari)-if you think level4-5 does not make a difference-try it & see-the difference is big very BIG.
]]> Tue, 24 Jun 2009 14:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8161015 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ritzenhoff]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#26
In this mission the tracking problem is especially bad since you are basically chucked right into the mix with the cruisers orbiting you almost instantly (in other missions they are easy to kill because they have to approach you first, which is when they are vulnerable).

Take out the guns and battleships with your Mega, use your drones on the cruisers and frigs.

It's not a particularly hard mission, it's just that it doesn't suit the ship you are using.
]]> Tue, 24 Jun 2009 11:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8160324 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Rude Bwoy]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#25
Drop the sentries/ missile batteries first - they're pretty easy to kill. Use AM Large ammo.

Who's the rudest of them all!]]> Tue, 24 Jun 2009 11:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8160248 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ergoth 2020]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#24
i have 5mil sp spread between drones/gunery/support skills

lvl4 missions are so much better isk wise

i just need to find an agent thats not near blow sec cos i keep gettin missions there Sad

all good so far and thanks for all tips they all helping
]]> Mon, 23 Jun 2009 23:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8157793 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Boz Well]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#23

Originally by: Pteranodon

We are back to that same old topic & it comes true so many times. You can't fly battleships with low skills. It is not enough to sit in a battleship- you need a good tank supported with all the supplementary skills.

I suggest you park that Battleship for a few months & train a solid tec2 tank & all associated skills. Then you will fly through missions at level 4 with much less concern than what you are having.

I reckon your base skill for battleships for level 4 missions must be around 8-10 million skill points- anything less & you will experience the problems you are getting & worse stand a chance of loosing that ship.

One final note for the trolling community I am not saying that you cant fly a BS with less points but being skilled right makes the experience far more rewarding.

I completely disagree. I'll admit the OP's choice of ship isn't the most noob friendly, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be doing level 4's. It just means he might need a change of ship until his SP improve. Ships like the Domi/Raven adapt perfectly to low SP chars. Without knowing his exact SP I can't say for sure whether I think he personally should be attempting level 4 missions, but level 3 missions until 10 million SP? Lol? Please.

With eve survival and a noob-friendly BS, there's no reason not to be completing level 4 missions with only a few million SP. And that's with only minimal risk, i.e. the risk that you might shoot the wrong group or somehow pull the entire room. Razz

But absent a boneheaded mistake while warp scrambled, you aren't going to lose a BS with lower SP. A little competence goes a long way to making up a lack of SP, at least for missions (which are easy to begin with).

Advising people to spend months doing mind-numbingly easy low-pay missions (i.e. level 3's) is advising them to play a boring game imo. Taking a low SP char into level 4's is honestly one of the more fun parts of PVE in this game, heh. Level 4's lose any semblance of a challenge once you learn the missions/get higher SP.

IMO, OP, get a dominix (or a Raven if you prefer) and try again once you train some basic skills if you don't have them already (i.e. armor tanking, heavy/sentry drones). You don't need t2 drones. You don't need t2 LAR's. You don't need t2 hardeners. And enjoy the challenge the missions provide while you can, heh.
]]> Mon, 23 Jun 2009 21:37:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8157068 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Revan Crow]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#22 ]]> Mon, 23 Jun 2009 11:10:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8153571 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Hugh Ruka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#21 Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 20/06/2008 15:20:36
can you post your skills+levels from categories: gunnery, engineering, mechanic and you Gal BS skill level ?

we can then make a better picture of your situation.

I am using a sentry Dominix and I can kill 1 cruiser every 8 seconds (2 drone+gun volleys). If you need 1 minute to kill one cruiser, you definitely lack DPS.

Forget the tractors, put a gun in the last turret slot. Also use an AB, head away from the rats to minimise transversal and fire away. concentrate drones and guns on one target to kill it quickly. always allign to a warp out object that is away from the NPCs so you can warp out instantly when needed.

With my skills, your setup deals 330DPS total (gal BS 5, large hybrid 4), which is very low. Definitely fit the 7th turret slot with another railgun or upgrade to 425mm rails, you have a tracking bonus on that ship, so it will help you offset the tracking loss.

As an alternative train for cruise missiles and use them in your 2 missile slots, they add decent dps and do not take capacitor. Something like this:

[Megathron, temp]
Large Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
2xArmor EM Hardener II
2xArmor Thermic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

3xCap Recharger II
LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets

6x350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun
2x'Malkuth' Cruise Launcher I

3xCapacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead I x5

With decent skills you can perma guns+lar+mar or guns+ab+lar depending on the situation. However it still has short range and shyti DPS. For a good capacitor save, use Thorium charges. You loose damage, but gain more cap/sec for tank/AB.

EDIT: As Pteradon noted, park the BS and run level 3 mission in a BC till you have better skills. Do not attempt Stop the Thief L4.
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I suggest you park that Battleship for a few months & train a solid tec2 tank & all associated skills. Then you will fly through missions at level 4 with much less concern than what you are having.

I reckon your base skill for battleships for level 4 missions must be around 8-10 million skill points- anything less & you will experience the problems you are getting & worse stand a chance of loosing that ship.

One final note for the trolling community I am not saying that you cant fly a BS with less points but being skilled right makes the experience far more rewarding.
]]> Fri, 20 Jun 2009 12:55:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8137696 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Kzintee]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#19
It can not take you 1-2 minutes to kill 1 cruiser (or a BC). If it does, go back to lvl3 missions cause you will in fact make more ISK that way. And have significantly less risk.

Get t2 drones and train drone interfacing. Drones do wonders against cruisers and frigs.

Do not shoot cruisers first unless you can score a kill before said cruiser gets into orbit.

Your tracking at this point can not handle a cruiser in orbit. Nor will it be able to even after you train your skills up, hitting cruisers in 20km orbit is hard with 350mm.

Your best bet on this particular mission is to take out stationary targets first, the missile batteries. At the same time you just let your drones loose. Depending on your drone skills you may or may not want to control them manually...sucky drone skills will get your drones hung up on a t2 ceptor frigs (the 30,000 bounty ones that can outtank your med drones) while the rest of the gang pummel you to pieces.

I honestly don't know why you're having so much trouble, esp with an active tank.
My CNR has:
2 EM hards
2 Therm hards.
DCII
Large shield ext.
2 field purger rigs, 1 shield extender rig.

This is my tank, and since we're using EFT, it has 240 defense against 50/50 EM/Therm damage. I have 20k shield with 80/83% on EM/Therm resists.
I did this mission recently and I don't remember it (which meant it was not anything worth remembering). I have a t1 XL shield booster fitted for those moments when shields are down to below 30% (which does not happen very often)

So it's a mystery wrapped in an enigma but basically this means two things:
- You lack skills.
- If you want to stick to guns, you need to learn what to kill first. Or get rid of the guns. Guns are NOT easy to use (My first BS was a Rokh).
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 23:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8134543 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ergoth 2020]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#18

i dunno how ppl can do it with less tank
or as ppl were saying just killing them quicker cos there were eating my tank quick

well cheers all for help
hope loot is worth it lol
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 23:10:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8134411 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ergoth 2020]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#17
now theres plenty there so i dread to think wot happens if i try kill more

i'm having to kill 1 warp out then rep etc

i'm sure that cant be right that tank should hold on longer than that surely
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 22:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8134274 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by PhantomMajor]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#16
even if you don't complete the mission in time for the time bonus the money you can make from the omber is more than worth it :-)

this news was brought to you by the "Carebear miners association"

Ladies and gentlemen, we will shortly be experiencing some exploding followed by some crashing...so i'd hold on if i were you!]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 22:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8134273 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Kzintee]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#15 What do you mean by "lasting only 1-2 min".
- You are out of shield. Sorry, have to ask this. On a Mega this means nothing.
- You are into structure. That's bad.
- You are out of cap. That's also bad.

I loaded your setup into EFT and with my skills I can run everything permanently with Em/T defense rating of 930. That's quite a lot of defense.

Check to see if you're being NOS'ed. That's when you see an orange funnel that's extending around your ship appx where your shields might be. That'll make you run out of cap really quick.

What I think might be happening is that you simply arent killing things fast enough, which is easy to achieve with noob hybrids. Maybe a little cap drain here or there coupled with a lot of incoming DPS and not killing things fast enough could explain your troubles.

If that's the case, I got bad news for you. This mission is easy. There are many missions much harder than this, so I'm not sure how you'll fare in those. Better insure the ship.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 22:12:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8134003 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ergoth 2020]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#14
to answer some questions i have thought of getting a domi but i really like my mega and was hoping to use it more i dont have the isk 4 domi yet so i trying with this.

i learning skills 4 t2 harners and LAR but gonna take a bit (i'm on l4 on both)

by the looks of i ppl seen to be doing this one with less tank which i really dont see how as with wot i've got i'm not lasting long enough to try and figure out who to try and take down.

is it pos that it could be bugged as i am literally only lasting about 1-2 mins if that

i'm going to try with some of ur setups and see what happens as its now after DT

]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 18:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8132570 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Hanneshannes]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#13
If you wanna be safe, kill the 3 scrammers first.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 17:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8132330 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Kzintee]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#12 You're doing something very wrong if you can't keep this up in a Mega with that kind of defense rating.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 17:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8132329 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Wet Ferret]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#11
I usually ignore the missile batteries, though. They do put out a lot of burst damage but they have a very long refire rate, and EM is the only damage they do iirc so with an armor tank shouldn't be too bad for you. The cruisers are what put out the most damage, IMO. Once those are dead the rest of the junk in there doesn't really hurt.

I like to believe that a change of tactics is all that's needed to complete a mission, rather than "train more skills" or "fly another ship" which are more like last resorts Razz

But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.

]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 16:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8131906 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Sanzorz]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#10 Edited by: Sanzorz on 19/06/2008 14:44:39
I had Repair Systems 4 for ages and I only used 1 repper and 2 hardeners. Go with 2 EM hardeners and 1 thermal, if you want. Stick 2-3 damage mods in low and fry those turrets. Your tank might be failing, but it will keep up for quite a while to sustain it, when you lower the damage tanked from the sentries. Go for the Turret Sentries first as those have hp less of a frigate, then the cruise turrets because they pack a punch when they hit.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 14:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8131110 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Talsha Talamar]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#9 if I remember correctly in this mission,
the turrets have to go first, Cruise>Missile>Sentries

]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 13:16:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8130517 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Imo thefirst]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#8
high :
gallente navy 425 mm rail
2x Meta 4 L nos
2x dronelink
1x tractor

mid :
sensor booster II
fleeting web
omnidirec
2x cap rechareger II

low :
LAR II
complex MAR
Damage controll II
thermal hardner II
3x EAMS II

rigs :
2x ccc
1 x (rep amount rig)

Drones :
sentrys
hammer II for frigs

kill cruise towers first
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Imo TheFirst
CEO of DSBDK
Diplomat for AuroB]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 13:05:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8130516 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Pteranodon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#7 Edited by: Pteranodon on 19/06/2008 11:49:57
I would leave the Megathron in the hanger until your skills are much higher.

I would change to a Dominix and use the following setup. All tec1 at present but you will fly through the mission.

Lows

2 Large Armor rep
2 Active xx Hardeners (xx for mission type)
2 Active xx Hardeners
1 Damage control

Mids

Fill with cap rechargers (use eutectic if you cant use tec2)

Highs

2 Drone link Augmentors
4 250mm guns (don't worry about loss of damage bonus-track better than dual 250). Use Thorium Ammo as it give you range & does not nerf your range like antimatter.

Rigs

3 CCC

Drones

5 Berserker
5 Infiltrator
5 Hammerhead
+ what ever you want (wardens are fab)

Use guns to supplement the drones. Domi gets a 10% bonus to drones per BS level. This setup will keep you out of trouble until you can develope your BS skills.

Get a full tec2 tank as quick as you can. It will be the single most important step along with good drone skills to fly the domi well. Safe landings. If you ever see my alt, Taharqua10 near Sobeski- give me a call I can help you spec good battleships & help you complete level4's.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 11:46:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8130024 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by FT Diomedes]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#6
[Megathron, Dio's Megathron]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x5

If you have decent skills, it all fits and works beautifully. If your cap skills are not great, drop the Tracking CPU and add another Cap Recharger II for permarunning.
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Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 10:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8129548 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Thirzarr]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#5
2x Large Armor Repairer (II if possible)
1x N-Type Thermic Hardener I
1x N-Type EM Hardener I
1x Damage Control II
2x Capacitor Power Relay II

3x Cap Recharger II
1x 100MN Afterburner II

7x 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L
[empty high slot]

3x Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hammerhead II x5
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this worked like a charm on several missions. Altho I spent some iskies on Faction Hardeners (not tooo expensive, since this is just a gallente-tryout) and I was able to use t2 everywhere else, too. I would NEVER fly anything that NEEDS range without an AB (the way to dictate range, outrun cruisers, work the transversal and get out of tight situations).

EFT sais I can permarun the above setup, ab and both lars and all guns blazing. It's an ok Tank and definately fun to fly. The rail-hyperion however would easily outperform it. But you asked Megathron, so this is it.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 09:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8129327 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Zo5o]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#4 Edited by: Zo5o on 19/06/2008 09:12:02

This post is baffling me.

I do this mission with 533 tankable against Sansha and have no problems.

I'd probably decline missions against Sanshas if I flew a megathron though. The damage types that a megathron throws out aren't the best to use against Sanshas.

Considered a domi, OP? It's a better overall ship for missions than the megathron because you can choose the type of a larger percentage of its DPS.
]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 09:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8129292 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Hugh Ruka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101&page=1#3
Kill the sentries and missile batteries as first I'd say. Then the DPS should be workable.
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Otherwise - cheat a bit if you have the isk, and buy a faction tank (less than 300M for 2 large reppers and hardeners)

OR

use 1-3 auxiliary nano pumps instead of ccc and put on a heavy cap injector.

- Carebear Pirate -]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2009 07:14:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/8128831 <![CDATA[downing the slavers 2/2 LVL4 - by Ergoth 2020]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=801101
i have just started doing lvl4 missions and my second mission was downing the slavers 2/2

i'm having few probs with this and not sure if its because of tenique setup or skills

my setup is (megathron)

6x 350mm proto rails
2xtractor beams

4x cap rech 2

1x power relay
2x EM hardners
2x Therm hardnrs
2x LAR Accom

3x CCC

5x hammer 2 drones

now this setup can tank 752 according to EFT

the prob is as soon as i get trown in via the gate i am ight in the middle of it all and they all agro me and my tank cant hold. am i missing something or do i hust need to wait till i got more skills to boost my tank

cheers to all in advance
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