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When is the next mirror? - by CCP Oneiromancer

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 07:18:00 +0000

This discussion has strayed far from its original subject, so I will lock this thread now. Please continue the discussion about the speed changes on the feedback thread here.

When is the next mirror? - by Slobodanka

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 06:16:00 +0000

I want that Crystal Ball!!!! I honestly do, I want one ingame. Is it on TQ (like in cosmos plexes or something) or is it just a hoax? Because if it's real like snowball launcher and those cute fairytales from cosmos plexes then I wanna have one!!1one1!

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 02:50:00 +0000

Wow, this is so funny. Talk about jumping to conclusions.

When is the next mirror? - by Markas Crais

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 00:51:00 +0000

Originally by: Zarlis
dude i hate to rain on your parade but
Quote:

Hey,

The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity to prepare for the Empyrean Age 1.1 patch. The changes will however still be available for testing on "Multiplicity" later this week as we continue to make adjustments.

MWD Reactivation delay has been removed, as you the players pointed out, it didn't quite feel right.

We're still making adjustments to missiles on our internal servers, we've been tweaking the numbers using the current missile damage formula but also exploring other possibilities.

The agility values are also slightly off. They were rebalanced with regard to MWD mass addition, which closed the gaps between ship types, removing uniqueness a bit. This will be fixed, also we're looking at boosting some ship classes in regards of agility.

We hope you'll continue to test the changes on Multiplicity, and continue to give feedback.

A new devblog with details on what we're changing and testing is in the makes, so stay tuned.

Nozh
Game Designer
CCP Games

so they are doing a few tweaks but basically its happening.

It's still too early to say it's happening with only a few tweaks until we get that new devblog. They rerolled to EA 1.1 because they plan on releasing that next. EA 1.1 was never intended to have the nanonerf patch since Nozh posted the devblog on July 25th and EA 1.1 was already being tested on July 18th. Simply put, they're still going to be testing on Multi.

When is the next mirror? - by Zarlis

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 00:42:00 +0000

dude i hate to rain on your parade but

Quote:

Hey,

The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity to prepare for the Empyrean Age 1.1 patch. The changes will however still be available for testing on "Multiplicity" later this week as we continue to make adjustments.

MWD Reactivation delay has been removed, as you the players pointed out, it didn't quite feel right.

We're still making adjustments to missiles on our internal servers, we've been tweaking the numbers using the current missile damage formula but also exploring other possibilities.

The agility values are also slightly off. They were rebalanced with regard to MWD mass addition, which closed the gaps between ship types, removing uniqueness a bit. This will be fixed, also we're looking at boosting some ship classes in regards of agility.

We hope you'll continue to test the changes on Multiplicity, and continue to give feedback.

A new devblog with details on what we're changing and testing is in the makes, so stay tuned.

Nozh
Game Designer
CCP Games

so they are doing a few tweaks but basically its happening.

When is the next mirror? - by D4RT N3RDiUS

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 22:43:00 +0000

to all mi carebears friendS!!!!

d4rt press in his keyboard "IDDQD" and put god mode on again...

LOL back to reality i think this is good and we can make a better patch than this one if ccp devs hear real ppl or if ccp got real devs XD sry noz but you sucks making patchs xD

we really can go somewere and make a really good patch with no nerfing aniting and only balancing things :) and maybe geting new roles and new ships in one future :)

When is the next mirror? - by Hortoken Wolfbrother

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 22:42:00 +0000

TO THE WIN BOATS POLYCARB LEGION!!

When is the next mirror? - by Hank Cousteau

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 21:54:00 +0000

Maybe CCP Should consider 30% tackling range extension rigs with a speed reduction penalty. That way you can actually bait nanos and have far more ships other than just 3 minmatar ships able to counter speed. The hull speed reductions probably should go through as well. Everything else, hold off on. Less people will be ****ed off overall if the 'balancing' occured in two stages, where you can do the finer tweaks.

When is the next mirror? - by iloni atoriandra

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 21:53:00 +0000

Im glad its being rolledback but i hope polys do get changed in line with normal rigs as they are a bit overpowered atm and lowering them in line with normal rigs and maybe reducing snakes a bit wont kill the average nano pilot.

When is the next mirror? - by Nightelf Mowhawk

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 21:16:00 +0000

whats the point of all this bull s**t if your just gonna have 'a quick 20 min dt' all night takes the mic just a lil bit

When is the next mirror? - by Vengal Seyhan

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:59:00 +0000

Originally by: Lorna Loot
Edited by: Lorna Loot on 12/08/2008 20:45:37
Edit: In reply to Vengal Seyhan

Polys themselves will be completely useless with the current changes, as will all speed rigs.

The best speed you will get is from a MWD and 3 OD, anything else added on would be so stacked its a waste of a slot.

Leeroying polyed ships might be more fun that removing and destroying what cost them over 100mill in the first place.

Alright, you can Leeroy your poly ships on the unsubstantiated belief that they'll be useless post patch, on the basis of a first edition trial patch that has recently been rolled back.

Me I'll prefer not to suicide any ships until the final patch goes live, on the unsubtantiated belief that they're going to change things with the patch so it's not all as bad as it seems right now.

Neither of these opinions above are factual... I do know, however, which one costs less ISK.

Leeroying your Vaga last week is premature ejaculation at its finest.

When is the next mirror? - by Lorna Loot

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:43:00 +0000

Edited by: Lorna Loot on 12/08/2008 20:45:37
Edit: In reply to Vengal Seyhan

Polys themselves will be completely useless with the current changes, as will all speed rigs.

The best speed you will get is from a MWD and 3 OD, anything else added on would be so stacked its a waste of a slot.

Leeroying polyed ships might be more fun that removing and destroying what cost them over 100mill in the first place.
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When is the next mirror? - by Neesa Corrinne

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:42:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

lols

Oh man, I haven't truly laughed this good in a long while. Thanks for that.

The sky is falling! We're testing ideas on sisi, the sky is falling!

When is the next mirror? - by Vengal Seyhan

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:39:00 +0000

Originally by: Alski
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

lols

Quote:
...ten page forum threads...

One of you guys really needs to change the word "ten" to "one-hundred"

I mean seriously tho - why Leeroy a poly-Vagabond? If you're going to Leeroy anything, do it to a Poly-Ishtar; It's not likely to do so well post patch because it's out of whack at the moment. The Vaga on the other hand, it may actually fly OK with a Poly fit - there has to be some ship in game that does, if everything is balanced well.

When is the next mirror? - by Euriti

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:38:00 +0000

Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 12/08/2008 19:56:47
Hear that? That's the sound of all of EVE's cry-baby carebears screaming in anguish.

only cry baby i see where is you dungar :colbert:

Atleast we have posted facts and numbers instead of whining like little babies while claiming 17km/s machs the norm.

posted facts? and who be you? i also have been fighting this change as its ludicrous to think that balancing it with a full set of high grade snakes that cost more then a capitals is normal ie its not.

I wasn't referring to you but to idiots like Matrix Skye, Napro, Stab wounds etc.

When is the next mirror? - by Alski

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:26:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

lols

Quote:
...ten page forum threads...

One of you guys really needs to change the word "ten" to "one-hundred"
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When is the next mirror? - by Pete Stalker

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:00 +0000

i told you this wont make it!

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=831524&page=13#378

There are only two types of aircrafts -- fighters and targets.

When is the next mirror? - by Aprudena Gist

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:00 +0000

Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 12/08/2008 19:56:47
Hear that? That's the sound of all of EVE's cry-baby carebears screaming in anguish.

only cry baby i see where is you dungar :colbert:

Atleast we have posted facts and numbers instead of whining like little babies while claiming 17km/s machs the norm.

posted facts? and who be you? i also have been fighting this change as its ludicrous to think that balancing it with a full set of high grade snakes that cost more then a capitals is normal ie its not.

When is the next mirror? - by Bruce Ironstaunch

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:11:00 +0000

I sure hope the next incarnation of the nano nerf is less ******ed than this one and adresses actual issues (polys and snakes) rather then creating a ton of new ones

When is the next mirror? - by Jenny' JoJo

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:08:00 +0000

Nanonerf is still on!. Its common for CCP to rollback server to test something unrelated to nano.

So do not buy your polys just yet!

Refresh to see next real life CCP Sig(25 total)

When is the next mirror? - by Euriti

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:07:00 +0000

Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 12/08/2008 19:56:47
Hear that? That's the sound of all of EVE's cry-baby carebears screaming in anguish.

only cry baby i see where is you dungar :colbert:

Atleast we have posted facts and numbers instead of whining like little babies while claiming 17km/s machs the norm.

When is the next mirror? - by Aprudena Gist

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:03:00 +0000

Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 12/08/2008 19:56:47
Hear that? That's the sound of all of EVE's cry-baby carebears screaming in anguish.

only cry baby i see where is you dungar :colbert:

When is the next mirror? - by Slim Goodbody

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:47:00 +0000

Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Your mother has been cleared of inappropriate content.

Your tears.... thank you.

When is the next mirror? - by RuriHoshino

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:42:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you. If a more balanced and rational approach is taken with the next set of test updates, a great deal of my own and the communities faith in CCP will be restored. Hopefully this will also encourage more constructive feedback from the players, and less lol-trolling.

Support a Real, Reasonable Change to Speed

When is the next mirror? - by Synapse Archae

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:34:00 +0000

Edited by: Synapse Archae on 12/08/2008 19:35:08

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

Thank you CCP. This alone has boosted my confidence in the dev team, and I'm very glad they felt the changes needed a harsher look.

Thanks very much to CCP for seeing that the speed changes went the wrong way. Lets try to get these done right, in the right spirit, and without randomly nerfing all kinds of other things in the process.

Originally by: CCP Garthagk
While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.

When is the next mirror? - by Natalia Kovac

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:31:00 +0000

Your mother has been cleared of inappropriate content.

When is the next mirror? - by Sykes

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:28:00 +0000

Can't please all of the people all of the time :)

Still, thanks CCP for giving this a re-think.

When is the next mirror? - by Slim Goodbody

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:27:00 +0000

Edited by: Slim Goodbody on 12/08/2008 19:27:11

Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

lols

and...

Originally by: Natalia Kovac
This post has been cleared of inappropriate content.

Regards,
The EVE Online Moderation team

When is the next mirror? - by Liang Nuren

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:27:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

<3 I hope the dev blog addresses the issues that have been raised so many times.

-Liang
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I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
-- Mahatma Gandhi

When is the next mirror? - by Natalia Kovac

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:25:00 +0000

This post has been cleared of inappropriate content.

Regards,
The EVE Online Moderation team

When is the next mirror? - by CCP Atropos

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:24:00 +0000

Originally by: Natalia Kovac
Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

lols

When is the next mirror? - by Oregon sinful

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:18:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

This just in, Polycarbon's prices soar. Did CCP just listen to the overwhelming response from their playerbase???

When is the next mirror? - by Lorna Loot

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:18:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN? WHEN?

P.S. WHEN?
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When is the next mirror? - by Amantus

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:13:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

Brilliant news.
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When is the next mirror? - by Natalia Kovac

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 19:12:00 +0000

Leeroyed my poly Vaga cos i thought it was gonna be worthless in a couple weeks. Thanks a bunch CCP.

When is the next mirror? - by McBrite

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:58:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

You, good sir, have made my day! Thanks!

When is the next mirror? - by Sacul

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:57:00 +0000

hahahhahhahahhahahha we tried to suicide our nano fleet the other day cuz of upcoming nerf's.....so glad we failed!

lmao

When is the next mirror? - by Tareen Kashaar

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:56:00 +0000

Oh. :)

I just hope you'll not just retreat back to what it was like before - iterate on the changes, fix the balance issues that surfaced on sisi in the past month - missiles and tracking, for one thing - and give us a more balanced version of these changes for testing and iteration :)

Looking forward to more info :)
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When is the next mirror? - by Mira O'karr

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:42:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

thats awesome ! i think a lot of people are very keen to see new ideas to rebalance speed to be made available for testing.

you know, i didnt expect this to happen :) faith is restored :)

When is the next mirror? - by Euriti

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:41:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP Oneiromancer
The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

Thank you good sir.

When is the next mirror? - by CCP Oneiromancer

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:37:00 +0000

The speed changes have been rolled back on Singularity. There will be a devblog with a more elaborate explanation.

You will be able to continue testing them on Multiplicity, once a new mirror is in place there.

When is the next mirror? - by Trojanman190

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:28:00 +0000

Originally by: Steven Barker
Is another patch waiting to go on. The mirror is there but the speed changes appear to be missing.

We can only hope.

Personally, I'm really hopeful... it would be foolish for a company that prides itself on dev - player interaction to start ignoring its playerbase. I'm willing to bet the next patch will be more 'balance' and less 'nerf', something we can all agree on, or at least a step in the proper direction.

When is the next mirror? - by Steven Barker

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:24:00 +0000

Is another patch waiting to go on. The mirror is there but the speed changes appear to be missing.

When is the next mirror? - by CCP Oneiromancer

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 18:12:00 +0000

A new mirror has been deployed today on Singularity. The mirro was taken last Thursday, on August 7th.

We would like to apologize for the prolonged lack of new mirror. The lack of human resources due to the summer vacations as well as a less-than-good synchronization with the Game Design department has caused this delay and we again apologize.

In the hopes of offering better information about the mirroring process, I have created a new thread here.

When is the next mirror? - by rValdez5987

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 17:05:00 +0000

Originally by: Destructor1792
Originally by: rValdez5987
you know you can always just skill your characters up simultaneously on both servers right?

Hell you can even spec for command ship on SISI while training for t2 bs weapons on TQ...

Sure that sp is lost when mirror happens, but hey your TQ stuff gets imported.

Win Win situation imo.

See the problem with whiners is that they dont look for solutions, they want the solutions to find them, or devs to bend over backwards. tbh whiners need to be ignored until they understand this.

And you do know that people use the test server once in a while when new stuff is released!! Seems the only whiner here is "YOU"(judging by your troll comments in other threads!) And If they want people to test New Content then it is up to them to make sure that the test server is as up to date as possible

Here's a little example for you:
You want to buy & try out the latest game instore for your pc? "Hey, soz, but we've only got a PC which is around 6 months old... best upgrade it yourself then come back and test the game" That is the analogy of your comment!!

That analogy doesn't work. And honestly, your being given the privilege to be on the test server, its not your right. I am personally just sick and tired of seeing people whine when all of the crap you complain about normally can be avoided through other means (including lag)

You want to know why CCP isn't listening to you? BECAUSE YOUR WRONG. Besides ccp doesn't listen to idiots. (and dont say that nano nerf was brought up by idiots, because you know some of the other more expensive setups were gamebreakingly fast.)

When is the next mirror? - by RaTTuS

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 15:06:00 +0000

new patch new mirror

go go go
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When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 15:02:00 +0000

Originally by: Kepakh
Originally by: Hari Sel'don

...if they did close down the server then they would have to hire a team of 100+ people to simply test the new content.

Oh boy, I wish I was so young, unexperienced and naive once again
V

I wish you were not an incompetent ***** but I dont think thats going to happen either If CCP closed Sisi then they would be forced to increase the size of their team to thoroughly test any changes they wanted to introduce.

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 14:50:00 +0000

Quote:
The multiple problems with windows resizing or moving around were partially fixed and the issue is still under testing.

There will also be a new mirror today, if the server starts up ok and there are no problems with the new database.

Don't worry... be happy *whistles*
\o/

When is the next mirror? - by Red zeon

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 14:39:00 +0000

incompatible release, soon i hope a pach will find daylight

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 13:24:00 +0000

Originally by: Hari Sel'don

...if they did close down the server then they would have to hire a team of 100+ people to simply test the new content.

Oh boy, I wish I was so young, unexperienced and naive once again
V

When is the next mirror? - by Bronson Hughes

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 13:09:00 +0000

Originally by: verde bandit
We, "guys", the community, my country, the WHOLE FRACKING CIVILIZED WORLD is on Summer Vacations for Christ's sake are you just stupid or are you trying to flame on purpose ?

And if I was a Dev's alt, I'll probably get your account banned some days for ****ing a Dev's alt off.

I'm really not trying to flame in any manner, just pointing out something that I noticed and trying to be funny about it. Sorry if I offended you.

Oh, for the record, it's not summer in the southern hemisphere. I hear they're very upset by not being considered part of the 'whole fracking civilized world'.
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"I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne

When is the next mirror? - by Jamie Hara

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 12:54:00 +0000

Originally by: Kil'Roy
I am certain that they could find enough "volenteers" from the community to test all their new content as needed.

Volenteers who wouldn't go crying their little hearts out because a new mirror wasn't promptly put on Sisi.

And it wouldn't cost them a dime, other than setting up a system to only allow "Certified" testers onto Sisi.

Probably save them a lot of headaches, due to childish behavior, on and off Sisi.

Well it's a good thing that CCP aren't affected by crying on and off the forums as much as you are or they would have severely worsened their testing procedures.

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 11:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Hari Sel'don

CCP cannot afford to close down Sisi for even a few months mate, if they did close down the server then they would have to hire a team of 100+ people to simply test the new content. Allowing the public to test the new patches for them drastically decreases labour costs and allows the content to be thoroughly tested before being released onto the live server.

I am certain that they could find enough "volenteers" from the community to test all their new content as needed.

Volenteers who wouldn't go crying their little hearts out because a new mirror wasn't promptly put on Sisi.

And it wouldn't cost them a dime, other than setting up a system to only allow "Certified" testers onto Sisi.

Probably save them a lot of headaches, due to childish behavior, on and off Sisi.

When is the next mirror? - by Talon7649

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 11:36:00 +0000

oooh, im getting all giddy like a little girl

When is the next mirror? - by Pbs

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 11:06:00 +0000

Edited by: Pbs on 12/08/2008 11:07:39
Vrotmnenogi! А new mirror!

PS: And Sisi is down... Wake up, Sisi, Matrix has you...

When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 10:45:00 +0000

By the way guys a new mirror is being put on Sisi as we speak :)

When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 10:22:00 +0000

Originally by: Kil'Roy
Originally by: Lionel Redstar
I wonder what would had heapend if the mirror were not announced:
-the ppl didn't knew about it
-the CCP stuff could do it without being *****ed about it
-no more stupid non-dev posts on a dev forum

So CCP I hope you learned you lesson: DON'T ANNOUNCE THE MIRROR BEFORE if you don't wanna be *****ed.
Kids, grow up and learn to be patience, you'll soon gonna find out that things done in a hurry are not always so good.

Yep, plus, I still think they should just close Sisi down to the general public for at least 6 months, and teach some "kids" a lesson.

CCP cannot afford to close down Sisi for even a few months mate, if they did close down the server then they would have to hire a team of 100+ people to simply test the new content. Allowing the public to test the new patches for them drastically decreases labour costs and allows the content to be thoroughly tested before being released onto the live server.

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 09:36:00 +0000

Originally by: Lionel Redstar
I wonder what would had heapend if the mirror were not announced:
-the ppl didn't knew about it
-the CCP stuff could do it without being *****ed about it
-no more stupid non-dev posts on a dev forum

So CCP I hope you learned you lesson: DON'T ANNOUNCE THE MIRROR BEFORE if you don't wanna be *****ed.
Kids, grow up and learn to be patience, you'll soon gonna find out that things done in a hurry are not always so good.

Yep, plus, I still think they should just close Sisi down to the general public for at least 6 months, and teach some "kids" a lesson.

When is the next mirror? - by Lionel Redstar

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 07:02:00 +0000

I wonder what would had heapend if the mirror were not announced:
-the ppl didn't knew about it
-the CCP stuff could do it without being *****ed about it
-no more stupid non-dev posts on a dev forum

So CCP I hope you learned you lesson: DON'T ANNOUNCE THE MIRROR BEFORE if you don't wanna be *****ed.
Kids, grow up and learn to be patience, you'll soon gonna find out that things done in a hurry are not always so good.

When is the next mirror? - by Luma Rahl

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 02:57:00 +0000

Originally by: Atiro Kali
Umm...

Sorry to get us back on subject but does anyone know when is the next mirror gonna be?

Two weeks ago

When is the next mirror? - by Atiro Kali

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 01:51:00 +0000

Umm...

Sorry to get us back on subject but does anyone know when is the next mirror gonna be?

Dev-miesters wanna hook us up so we can go frolic in ur beautiful lil playground?

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 00:52:00 +0000

Edited by: verde bandit on 12/08/2008 00:52:07

Originally by: Myra2007
I just don't believe you should be lecturing people about them.

What did you just do exactly ?

When is the next mirror? - by Myra2007

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 00:15:00 +0000

Originally by: verde bandit

The guy in charge of the copy is part of Operations Department, while the editing work is done by Deployment. Maybe some Deployment people are on vacations ?

Yes, maybe they are. Or maybe they are not? I don't know and apparently you don't either.

I am sure ccp has good reasons why they couldn't do the mirror yet. I just don't believe you should be lecturing people about them.

Originally by: verde bandit

Are we going to debate that argument for 2 pages to prove me I'm wrong ?

I might just ask you the very same question. Anyway my point stands and i am outta here.

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 23:55:00 +0000

Edited by: verde bandit on 11/08/2008 23:56:18

Originally by: Myra2007
1) No, it's not.

2) The people who are responsible for the sisi patches are apparently not on vacation. The dude that does the mirrors returned last week on monday from what we know.

So how is it even remotely an issue that you are on summer vacation?

The guy in charge of the copy is part of Operations Department, while the editing work is done by Deployment. Maybe some Deployment people are on vacations ?

Are we going to debate that argument for 2 pages to prove me I'm wrong ?

When is the next mirror? - by Myra2007

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 23:31:00 +0000

Originally by: verde bandit

the WHOLE FRACKING CIVILIZED WORLD is on Summer Vacations for Christ's sake are you just stupid or are you trying to flame on purpose ?

1) No, it's not.

2) The people who are responsible for the sisi patches are apparently not on vacation. The dude that does the mirrors returned last week on monday from what we know.

So how is it even remotely an issue that you are on summer vacation?

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 23:02:00 +0000

Edited by: verde bandit on 11/08/2008 23:03:54

Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Well, stop talking about yourself as if you're a CCP staffer (i.e. 'we're on Summer vacation' when talking about CCP not getting the mirror done) and I'll consider it. If you're not a CCP staffer's alt, you're at least from Iceland and refering to the fact that most Icelanders are on summer vacation.

We, "guys", the community, my country, the WHOLE FRACKING CIVILIZED WORLD is on Summer Vacations for Christ's sake are you just stupid or are you trying to flame on purpose ?

And if I was a Dev's alt, I'll probably get your account banned some days for ****ing a Dev's alt off.

When is the next mirror? - by Ferocious FeAr

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 20:27:00 +0000

Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 11/08/2008 20:31:08

Originally by: Kepakh
Originally by: Destructor1792
Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 14:47:08
//angry mode off

Now, turn your //I use my brain mode on, please.

You do not pay for test server, it is a privilege. CCP is not obliged to allow you test server access for monthly subscription you pay. You are invited there to help out with testing.
Changes affect everyone, no matter of skills or ships you fly therefore every skill set is contributing to testing results the same way as perfect skills set. If it is not entertaining for you, don't log in there. Test server isn't there to provide you fun.

To be fair, allowing us to test minimize their labor costs drastically. Not saying that its a bad way to do things but I believe your perception of the test server is wrong. Say what you wish but when they want people to test bugs yet they don't announce what needs to be tested when they release their incremental patches ....it tends to get frustrating.

Don't hate me, learn to love me

When is the next mirror? - by Bronson Hughes

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 19:47:00 +0000

Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 11/08/2008 19:47:35

Originally by: verde bandit
Edited by: verde bandit on 11/08/2008 19:04:28

Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Dev alt spotted....

If you say so.
It's been twice now I've been "spotted" in this thread so I guess I'lll get used to it.

Well, stop talking about yourself as if you're a CCP staffer (i.e. 'we're on Summer vacation' when talking about CCP not getting the mirror done) and I'll consider it. If you're not a CCP staffer's alt, you're at least from Iceland and refering to the fact that most Icelanders are on summer vacation.
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When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 19:04:00 +0000

Edited by: verde bandit on 11/08/2008 19:04:28

Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Dev alt spotted....

If you say so.
It's been twice now I've been "spotted" in this thread so I guess I'lll get used to it.

When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 18:21:00 +0000

Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: verde bandit
Originally by: Hari Sel'don
To be honest we pay a considerable amount of money to pay on Tranquility per month and personally I believe that we deserve to have a test server to allow us to test patch releases before they are released in order to increase the quality of gameplay on the live server. It is technically a privilege however we pay for Singularity just as much as Tranquility! I think it is ridiculous that it takes CCP two weeks to put a new mirror on Singularity.

Do you guys realize we're on Summer vacations ?

Dev alt spotted....

Haha, maybe instead of commenting on my posts he should sort the mirror out.

When is the next mirror? - by Bronson Hughes

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 17:03:00 +0000

Originally by: verde bandit
Originally by: Hari Sel'don
To be honest we pay a considerable amount of money to pay on Tranquility per month and personally I believe that we deserve to have a test server to allow us to test patch releases before they are released in order to increase the quality of gameplay on the live server. It is technically a privilege however we pay for Singularity just as much as Tranquility! I think it is ridiculous that it takes CCP two weeks to put a new mirror on Singularity.

Do you guys realize we're on Summer vacations ?

Dev alt spotted....
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"I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne

When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 16:40:00 +0000

Originally by: verde bandit
Originally by: Hari Sel'don
To be honest we pay a considerable amount of money to pay on Tranquility per month and personally I believe that we deserve to have a test server to allow us to test patch releases before they are released in order to increase the quality of gameplay on the live server. It is technically a privilege however we pay for Singularity just as much as Tranquility! I think it is ridiculous that it takes CCP two weeks to put a new mirror on Singularity.

Do you guys realize we're on Summer vacations ?

I believe that over two weeks for a mirror is pretty ridiculous, one week would be acceptable since a mirror should take two days according to CCP.

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 16:28:00 +0000

Originally by: Hari Sel'don
To be honest we pay a considerable amount of money to pay on Tranquility per month and personally I believe that we deserve to have a test server to allow us to test patch releases before they are released in order to increase the quality of gameplay on the live server. It is technically a privilege however we pay for Singularity just as much as Tranquility! I think it is ridiculous that it takes CCP two weeks to put a new mirror on Singularity.

Do you guys realize we're on Summer vacations ?

When is the next mirror? - by Hari Sel'don

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 16:26:00 +0000

To be honest we pay a considerable amount of money to pay on Tranquility per month and personally I believe that we deserve to have a test server to allow us to test patch releases before they are released in order to increase the quality of gameplay on the live server. It is technically a privilege however we pay for Singularity just as much as Tranquility! I think it is ridiculous that it takes CCP two weeks to put a new mirror on Singularity.

When is the next mirror? - by Grarr Dexx

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 01:45:00 +0000

There's plenty of people who already have those skills on the test server, we don't really need another one tbqfh

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Mon, 11 Aug 2009 00:48:00 +0000

Originally by: Grarr Dexx
(to bug hunt, not to test your nerfed nano***got setups)

Testing Nano-setups are part of the bug hunting, to actually check if the changes work as intented :)

When is the next mirror? - by Grarr Dexx

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 17:45:00 +0000

You pay to play on Tranquility. The fact that you are allowed to play on a whole secondary server practically for free (to bug hunt, not to test your nerfed nano***got setups) should never be taken for granted.

When is the next mirror? - by Destructor1792

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Kepakh
[Now, turn your //I use my brain mode on, please.

You do not pay for test server, it is a privilege. CCP is not obliged to allow you test server access for monthly subscription you pay. You are invited there to help out with testing.
Changes affect everyone, no matter of skills or ships you fly therefore every skill set is contributing to testing results the same way as perfect skills set. If it is not entertaining for you, don't log in there. Test server isn't there to provide you fun.

WTF - u a dev alt or summit ? Why are we invited there to test ? BECAUSE otherwise they'd have no idea what sort of impact changes would have.

And how are we supposed to test any new changes to current gameplay if our skill tree isn't up to date ? All these shiny ships u like.. guess what.. I (along with hundreds of others) helped test them.. new patches & content.. yep, we also helped test those out as well!!

And guess what - with each change, they mirrored the server so we were pretty much up to date. Heck, on a couple of occassions, they actually maxed out are skills so the testing could be done quicker.

SO STOP shooting yourself in the foot by saying skills are irrelevant! If they weren't then DUN DUN DUNNN.. we could all fit & fly whatever we wanted so quit being a troll, use your brain and stop trying to derail another post.

You Lot wanted the nano changes, & now they've been released on sisi, you ***** and whine when everyone asks for their current skills to be mirrored over..

Why ? because we'll get to see 1st hand the difference between TQ and sisi & how much of a difference the changes really do make to our play styles.

Instead, we have to waste a month or two re-training skills we already trained up on TQ just to get an idea of what effect the changes are really going to have! And this is down to a 5hr brainstorm with the changes released a few days later!!!

This is not new ships or modules which everyone has to train - this is current modules which everyone uses

And then guess what - just when you've got yourself on par with TQ skills they'll release the changes so you never got to test them properly live.

So your argument fails on why not to mirror the server with the current planned changes
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I Have No Fear, Fear is for the weak.

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 15:14:00 +0000

Originally by: Destructor1792
Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 14:47:08
//angry mode off

Now, turn your //I use my brain mode on, please.

You do not pay for test server, it is a privilege. CCP is not obliged to allow you test server access for monthly subscription you pay. You are invited there to help out with testing.
Changes affect everyone, no matter of skills or ships you fly therefore every skill set is contributing to testing results the same way as perfect skills set. If it is not entertaining for you, don't log in there. Test server isn't there to provide you fun.

When is the next mirror? - by Destructor1792

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 14:44:00 +0000

Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 14:47:08

Originally by: Kepakh

You do not need to have same skills as you currently have on TQ to test new content. Skills are rather irrelevant, there are other players who will test out with diffrent skill sets.
As said above, having different skills from TQ can be considered as advantage. You can train skills and ships you would not train on TQ normaly.
Logging Sisi occasionaly only and complaining about low skills afterwards is truly ridiculous.

You do not pay CCP to work for you on test server, you work for them.

Another troll Why do I pay money to play ? hmmm ? And stop trying to drag another reason into this..
The reason we want an update is due to major changes..

If i wanted to learn how to fly something else then sure, log onto sisi and train up that skill yet this isn't then reason behind this thread..

Originally by: Kepakh
Skills are rather irrelevant

Probably the stupidest comment I've seen so far when testing new content or changes to current content

Tell ya what, we're reset all your skills, bring out major changes that require testing then sit back and laugh as you complain on the forums that you can't give the changes a true test because half your skills are missing!!

It really is time for people to Grow up and post constructively, not leaving stupid little troll comments with no reasoning behind "said" trolls

//angry mode off
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I Have No Fear, Fear is for the weak.

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 13:57:00 +0000

Originally by: Destructor1792

And you do know that people use the test server once in a while when new stuff is released!! Seems the only whiner here is "YOU"(judging by your troll comments in other threads!) And If they want people to test New Content then it is up to them to make sure that the test server is as up to date as possible

Here's a little example for you:
You want to buy & try out the latest game instore for your pc? "Hey, soz, but we've only got a PC which is around 6 months old... best upgrade it yourself then come back and test the game" That is the analogy of your comment!!

You do not need to have same skills as you currently have on TQ to test new content. Skills are rather irrelevant, there are other players who will test out with diffrent skill sets.
As said above, having different skills from TQ can be considered as advantage. You can train skills and ships you would not train on TQ normaly.
Logging Sisi occasionaly only and complaining about low skills afterwards is truly ridiculous.

You do not pay CCP to work for you on test server, you work for them.

When is the next mirror? - by Destructor1792

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:00 +0000

Originally by: rValdez5987
you know you can always just skill your characters up simultaneously on both servers right?

Hell you can even spec for command ship on SISI while training for t2 bs weapons on TQ...

Sure that sp is lost when mirror happens, but hey your TQ stuff gets imported.

Win Win situation imo.

See the problem with whiners is that they dont look for solutions, they want the solutions to find them, or devs to bend over backwards. tbh whiners need to be ignored until they understand this.

And you do know that people use the test server once in a while when new stuff is released!! Seems the only whiner here is "YOU"(judging by your troll comments in other threads!) And If they want people to test New Content then it is up to them to make sure that the test server is as up to date as possible

Here's a little example for you:
You want to buy & try out the latest game instore for your pc? "Hey, soz, but we've only got a PC which is around 6 months old... best upgrade it yourself then come back and test the game" That is the analogy of your comment!!

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Bringing The Fun Back

I Have No Fear, Fear is for the weak.

When is the next mirror? - by rValdez5987

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 12:02:00 +0000

you know you can always just skill your characters up simultaneously on both servers right?

Hell you can even spec for command ship on SISI while training for t2 bs weapons on TQ...

Sure that sp is lost when mirror happens, but hey your TQ stuff gets imported.

Win Win situation imo.

See the problem with whiners is that they dont look for solutions, they want the solutions to find them, or devs to bend over backwards. tbh whiners need to be ignored until they understand this.

When is the next mirror? - by Destructor1792

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 11:56:00 +0000

Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 11:59:47

Originally by: Kepakh

I have to admit forums ain't well moderated...
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=46836

Posted - 2003.12.09 16:02:00 - [1]
(Updated on May 26, 2008 by CCP Tanis.)
Current Singularity mirror:
A new mirror to Singularity has been applied to Singularity on May 20th, 2008.
The mirror was taken on May 5th.

K - well i took the jan date from the very 1st post on this thread which is why i voiced my concerns but that'll teach me for not checking the post date .

However, even if the latest was on may 5th that is still over 3 months old!! Lots can be skilled for in that amount of time.

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I Have No Fear, Fear is for the weak.

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 11:33:00 +0000

Originally by: Destructor1792
Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 10:41:35
Current mirror date: 17th January 2008

They want us to test new changes, then mirror the server.. simple really otherwise nearly all input will be based on what tranq was like at the start of the year!! Or is that CCP's idea of accurate QA testing

C'mon CCP - you've upset alot of the player base with your proposed changes & in all my time of playing, i've never seen this much anger vented towards you! - and they're not minor changes either!..
Time to let us test them with our current skills cos atm, you're being torn to shreds on not only the Eve-O forums but on alot of others as well

I have to admit forums ain't well moderated...
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=46836

Posted - 2003.12.09 16:02:00 - [1]
(Updated on May 26, 2008 by CCP Tanis.)
Current Singularity mirror:
A new mirror to Singularity has been applied to Singularity on May 20th, 2008.
The mirror was taken on May 5th.

When is the next mirror? - by Destructor1792

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 10:34:00 +0000

Edited by: Destructor1792 on 10/08/2008 10:41:35
Current mirror date: 17th January 2008

They want us to test new changes, then mirror the server.. simple really otherwise nearly all input will be based on what tranq was like at the start of the year!! Or is that CCP's idea of accurate QA testing

C'mon CCP - you've upset alot of the player base with your proposed changes & in all my time of playing, i've never seen this much anger vented towards you! - and they're not minor changes either!..
Time to let us test them with our current skills cos atm, you're being torn to shreds on not only the Eve-O forums but on alot of others as well
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I Have No Fear, Fear is for the weak.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 10:20:00 +0000

Originally by: Red zeon
Ragieza, this is a very political game also, dont mather if you flame alot of people and talk shit if your not in a corp and solo mission all day in empire.
but saying wrong things can lead up to annoying bullshit

And you think i care?

When is the next mirror? - by Red zeon

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 08:29:00 +0000

Ragieza, this is a very political game also, dont mather if you flame alot of people and talk shit if your not in a corp and solo mission all day in empire.
but saying wrong things can lead up to annoying bullshit

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Sun, 10 Aug 2009 07:46:00 +0000

Aww, so cute. Little Noobie thinks he got a dig.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 22:59:00 +0000

Originally by: Kil'Roy
Originally by: Ragieza

Considering ur a 07 character u cant say much urself...

You are new, you haven't heard of Forum Alts. This is just my latest...

I like to be able to say anything I want, even flame those in my Alliance, without someone crying to my CEO about it.
Kind of liberating, maybe I'll join a Corp that doesn't care sometime.

As for you, I suggest you use the search feature for past topics regarding the test server, it might be enlightning to someone who is so new to the game. It might put your expectations a little more inline with reality, well maybe.

People that use forum alts to hide there identity, are cowards =]
if u use a alt to hide from people in a game,
what are you like in real life?

You must be a right loser.
Grow some balls and stop hiding.

Get out there n show them you dont care.

Scared of a game u pay for,
you really are pathetic.

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 20:53:00 +0000

Originally by: Ragieza

Considering ur a 07 character u cant say much urself...

You are new, you haven't heard of Forum Alts. This is just my latest...

I like to be able to say anything I want, even flame those in my Alliance, without someone crying to my CEO about it.
Kind of liberating, maybe I'll join a Corp that doesn't care sometime.

As for you, I suggest you use the search feature for past topics regarding the test server, it might be enlightning to someone who is so new to the game. It might put your expectations a little more inline with reality, well maybe.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 18:14:00 +0000

Originally by: Kepakh
Originally by: Ragieza

Okay mr i got my skills on sinq so i can say this n laugh.

Im going to log onto test server and test my shiney new frig on a brand new character!
oh yes. thats because i dont need skills,
i can fly my frig not even fitted!

well done kepakh for failing on ur witty comment.
and yes it is there to test ur fittings because its a test server.
u cant test ships without fits or different fits.

you are a utter idiot.
stay out of this topic.

My comment was most likely too witty for your comprehension ability... I failed, I am sorry.

be gone!
off with ur head.

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 17:58:00 +0000

Originally by: Ragieza

Okay mr i got my skills on sinq so i can say this n laugh.

Im going to log onto test server and test my shiney new frig on a brand new character!
oh yes. thats because i dont need skills,
i can fly my frig not even fitted!

well done kepakh for failing on ur witty comment.
and yes it is there to test ur fittings because its a test server.
u cant test ships without fits or different fits.

you are a utter idiot.
stay out of this topic.

My comment was most likely too witty for your comprehension ability... I failed, I am sorry.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 17:22:00 +0000

Originally by: Kil'Roy
Originally by: Ragieza
Originally by: Kepakh
If you want to help out with testing, you test with skills you have, you give feedback. No more no less. It is voluntary and a privilege, treat it like that.

Testing requires no need to have same skills as on TQ. Singularity isn't there to test your fittings.

Okay mr i got my skills on sinq so i can say this n laugh.

Im going to log onto test server and test my shiney new frig on a brand new character!
oh yes. thats because i dont need skills,
i can fly my frig not even fitted!

well done kepakh for failing on ur witty comment.
and yes it is there to test ur fittings because its a test server.
u cant test ships without fits or different fits.

you are a utter idiot.
stay out of this topic.

Ok, so you are a Noob, so what, get used to it.

So they missed their "planned" window for deploying a mirror, so what, you are not paying for this service.

People demand an estimate, and when it is given and missed by unforseen circumstances, or what ever, people respond like this?

I would expect such demands for answers to when mirrors will be applied will be, or should be, ignored in the future.

I was kind of surprised with this one.

Considering ur a 07 character u cant say much urself.
if u were to not have all ur updated skills on sinq from tq
u would be missing out on alot of important sp.
cause ur still workin on spec'ing urself out.

The fact is, if a new patch as big as this comes out.
the mirror should be ready straight away to be put on.
i think that stands for what every 1 would think.

That is all im going to say, the mirror should be ready
so every 1 can participate and test.
as the sq server is for testing, which ccp should for-see that.

And actually we r payin for the service cause if we didnt pay
we wouldnt be on the test server in the first place.
its not like we could come out of nowere n be like oh yes
i can go on the test server because its free,
oh wait, i forgot i have to have my account topped up before the mirror update

That is so free.

Again, get a clue =/

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 17:03:00 +0000

Originally by: Ragieza
Originally by: Kepakh
If you want to help out with testing, you test with skills you have, you give feedback. No more no less. It is voluntary and a privilege, treat it like that.

Testing requires no need to have same skills as on TQ. Singularity isn't there to test your fittings.

Okay mr i got my skills on sinq so i can say this n laugh.

Im going to log onto test server and test my shiney new frig on a brand new character!
oh yes. thats because i dont need skills,
i can fly my frig not even fitted!

well done kepakh for failing on ur witty comment.
and yes it is there to test ur fittings because its a test server.
u cant test ships without fits or different fits.

you are a utter idiot.
stay out of this topic.

Ok, so you are a Noob, so what, get used to it.

So they missed their "planned" window for deploying a mirror, so what, you are not paying for this service.

People demand an estimate, and when it is given and missed by unforseen circumstances, or what ever, people respond like this?

I would expect such demands for answers to when mirrors will be applied will be, or should be, ignored in the future.

I was kind of surprised with this one.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 16:51:00 +0000

Originally by: Kepakh
If you want to help out with testing, you test with skills you have, you give feedback. No more no less. It is voluntary and a privilege, treat it like that.

Testing requires no need to have same skills as on TQ. Singularity isn't there to test your fittings.

Okay mr i got my skills on sinq so i can say this n laugh.

Im going to log onto test server and test my shiney new frig on a brand new character!
oh yes. thats because i dont need skills,
i can fly my frig not even fitted!

well done kepakh for failing on ur witty comment.
and yes it is there to test ur fittings because its a test server.
u cant test ships without fits or different fits.

you are a utter idiot.
stay out of this topic.

When is the next mirror? - by Kepakh

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 15:49:00 +0000

If you want to help out with testing, you test with skills you have, you give feedback. No more no less. It is voluntary and a privilege, treat it like that.

Testing requires no need to have same skills as on TQ. Singularity isn't there to test your fittings.

When is the next mirror? - by Fumunda minuts

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 13:44:00 +0000

Big speed changes across EVE. Please everyone go onto sisi and help us test. Give us feedback. Ok, but whats this I'm 3mill sp's short of what I have on tranq? Galli frigate 5 is not trained, most all my nav skills are not trained yet. How can I test my Ares on sisi? I can't even fly it there.
Since the announced changes I've asked in forums and on SISI. I had a bug dev say it was going to be mirrored this week. Now it's too much trouble to do it? Well they did it before. With these changes affecting so many people in EVE and with all the calls for mass testing on SISI. You'd thank they'd mirror the dammed thing.
Anyway I can't test my current ceptors and if I start to train the missing skills on SISI the changes will be implemented on Tranq well before my skills are trained on SISI.

When is the next mirror? - by Murk Loar

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 04:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Kil'Roy
I propose they close down Sisi for a period of 6 months, and only allow true Bug Hunters on it.

Not such a bad idea.Even if there had to be some kind of BH registration just to connect to SiSi Id still do it.

On a sidenote,having max skilled players on the test server is not what CCP want people.It's 'meant' to be a reflection of the live server so all skill groups can test different things....you dont have max skills on TQ so why complain about not having them on SiSi?Okay,you may be a couple million sp behind on the test server and in a perfect world your skills would be identical to TQ everyday but it's not and complaining about it daily wont make it happen.Just be happy that they allow us on there at all.

tl;dr...we're meant to be testing what we can 'really' fly/use on TQ.

(And,be patient...Arma Day will happen again and we can all vent in carriers and dreads for 23 hours)

When is the next mirror? - by Kil'Roy

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 04:17:00 +0000

I propose they close down Sisi for a period of 6 months, and only allow true Bug Hunters on it.

Maybe then, it would be taken for granted.

When is the next mirror? - by rValdez5987

Fri, 8 Aug 2009 20:38:00 +0000

I cant see how good nano is in my own experience due to missing skills however i can tell by the number of vagabond, ishtar, pilgrim kills that i have that this patch is pure win, and the fights to kill those suckers were the best i have had in terms of adrenaline rushes.

When is the next mirror? - by Ragieza

Fri, 8 Aug 2009 18:07:00 +0000

Guys careful,
CCP employers brains will blow up.
remember they use hamsters to run the servers.
imagion what they are,
guinea pigs?

ccp sort it out seriously.
if ur gonna release a big patch like this
atleast update the skills before u put it on
otherwise u aint gonna get people being able to test it out fully
meaning its pointless,
and the people who r doin it,
are quite sad to repeat the same skills they get on TQ

flame me if u wish.
i aint gonna waste my time trainin skills on 2 different servers
the exact same time.

whats the point .

think smart ccp, think smart!

mirror update same as patch
= happy customers = more testing = u can relax and eat ur peanuts while u wait for replys
instead of complaints.

Fail much?

*awaits for ccp love bird fans to point the flaws in my post because they have no life*

When is the next mirror? - by verde bandit

Fri, 8 Aug 2009 16:09:00 +0000

Originally by: Archetype02

make a single mirror maxing every1's skill it only needs to be done once every year to accomidate new players.. thanks..

this also gives people the option to test EVERYTHING not just what they have trained for thus making it a more viable way to actualy test things.

CCP need feedback from things tested with different skillsets.
If every feedback report they'd get was from ALL Level V skilled pilots it'd be pretty useless.