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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MisterBubbles

Tue, 30 Dec 2009 16:53:00 +0000

Originally by: MotherMoon
there will only be about 1 station per system you'll be able to out of ship in.

makes sense to me.. sort of :P

Please document this claim.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Oktacon

Fri, 26 Dec 2009 03:56:00 +0000

After messing around with Playstation home, I think my excitement for Ambulation has gone down significantly. Considering that Home forces you into a populated server, I'm wondering how Eve will work, when 90% of the stations in the game are empty, and only 5% of the stations probably have more than 30 people in it at any time.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Serenii Astarael

Fri, 26 Dec 2009 03:03:00 +0000

Originally by: Arialla
Edited by: Arialla on 14/03/2007 00:09:15
I am in the anti-ambulation corner mostly because it seems like a lot of eye candy with no functional use at all.

Come on. We play a game where we pretend to fly spaceships on the internet, and you want 'functional use'?

I'm all for Ambulation, 'cause it's cool. Eve is cool as it is, but it would be cooler if you could get off your ship, so let's do it. I've actually heard a lot of my friends say they might play if you could get off your ship and walk around, so maybe it's even a good business move by CCP.

Besides, as a White Wolf player myself, I want them to make a good WOD game too, and if we get more cool things out of it for EvE on the way, so much the better.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Sakura Nihil

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 23:36:00 +0000

Originally by: MotherMoon
there will only be about 1 station per system you'll be able to out of ship in.

makes sense to me.. sort of :P

Wait, what the hell?

Football? Hell yes.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Esiel

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 23:12:00 +0000

Go to the Fanfest 2008 video area or the Eve Youtube site . Check out the 2 videos on Walking in station, alot of the questions people are asking are in there. I am sure it will also bring alot more questions but it is a must see if you are intrested in ambulation at all.

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by SiJira

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 22:53:00 +0000

if we cant stab other people it will be useless
Trashed sig, Shark was here

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MotherMoon

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 21:56:00 +0000

Originally by: Strel Samodelkin
Will you be allowed to have your own residence, that you can customize?

hell yeah, watch the video of it on this site :)

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Strel Samodelkin

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 21:53:00 +0000

Will you be allowed to have your own residence, that you can customize?

Caldari Nationalist Party

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MotherMoon

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 21:47:00 +0000

there will only be about 1 station per system you'll be able to out of ship in.

makes sense to me.. sort of :P

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Yelan Zhou

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 20:30:00 +0000

Originally by: Antimony Noske
Originally by: Horatius Caul
I think that Ambulation can actually contribute to a better spread of population in EVE. Yes, Jita will probably have some decent bars, but no more potential than any other system. A great entrepreneur and someone with marketing savvy might set up a locale at a rarely-visited system, gather a fanbase, drive more development of that system and eventually contribute to a new minor market hub being born.

Everyone knows Jita, Rens, Ours, and Amarr are the market hubs, so everyone trades their goods there, which ergo make them the market hubs. You'd have to be a master of marketing to develop another market hub anywhere. Price margins are already pretty slim; You'd be hard-pressed to compete for mindshare by lowering prices against the current hubs.

I am sorry to disapoint you, but there are way more market hubs than those four you named.

War. War never changes.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Antimony Noske

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 19:50:00 +0000

Originally by: Horatius Caul
I think that Ambulation can actually contribute to a better spread of population in EVE. Yes, Jita will probably have some decent bars, but no more potential than any other system. A great entrepreneur and someone with marketing savvy might set up a locale at a rarely-visited system, gather a fanbase, drive more development of that system and eventually contribute to a new minor market hub being born.

Everyone knows Jita, Rens, Ours, and Amarr are the market hubs, so everyone trades their goods there, which ergo make them the market hubs. You'd have to be a master of marketing to develop another market hub anywhere. Price margins are already pretty slim; You'd be hard-pressed to compete for mindshare by lowering prices against the current hubs.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Horatius Caul

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 18:37:00 +0000

Originally by: Icarus Flame
One problem I see is that most of the stations in the game are almost entirely empty a lot of the time. If I dock up in a lowsec station, I expect to see one or two fellow guests, not much else.
What I think this will do is force trade in Eve even more towards trade hub stations. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but most of the time a station won't mean a friendly social experience, just a bunch of lonely hallways to wander through.

I think that Ambulation can actually contribute to a better spread of population in EVE. Yes, Jita will probably have some decent bars, but no more potential than any other system. A great entrepreneur and someone with marketing savvy might set up a locale at a rarely-visited system, gather a fanbase, drive more development of that system and eventually contribute to a new minor market hub being born.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Daftny Litchinova

Thu, 25 Dec 2009 17:17:00 +0000

Walkin in station is a very good idea, if there's plenty of stuff to do in station!
I heard about playing sub-games in station, witch is a great idea...I also heard someone ask about putting Poker games in station and that would be AWESOME!!!
Betting some isk into a game while waiting for a buddy to log in before doing some mission would be great!
Think about all the other good things...movies, corp meetings, or simply looking at space from inside a station (seeing ships flying by) would be so great!

Looking forward to it! especialy poker games!!!
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Wendat Huron

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 18:24:00 +0000

Originally by: Icarus Flame
One problem I see is that most of the stations in the game are almost entirely empty a lot of the time. If I dock up in a lowsec station, I expect to see one or two fellow guests, not much else.
What I think this will do is force trade in Eve even more towards trade hub stations. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but most of the time a station won't mean a friendly social experience, just a bunch of lonely hallways to wander through.

I do hope and think they'll have some NPC moving about too.

Delenda est achura.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Janu Hull

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 17:25:00 +0000

Originally by: EspionageX
Originally by: CCP kieron
If I recall correctly, Torfi stated in the Fanfest presentation that a /dance emote was not in the plans for the Ambulation project. As for rooms such as bars, I believe those are being planned.

What?!? Why not? They had a /cabbagepatch in PS that was fun to do when you were waiting for the shuttle

Was great to form a little circle and /cabbagepatch dance

SWG was the same way. A bunch of people with Novice Entertainer and the old ten minute shuttle waits turned into reasonably good fun.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Icarus Flame

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 03:55:00 +0000

One problem I see is that most of the stations in the game are almost entirely empty a lot of the time. If I dock up in a lowsec station, I expect to see one or two fellow guests, not much else.
What I think this will do is force trade in Eve even more towards trade hub stations. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but most of the time a station won't mean a friendly social experience, just a bunch of lonely hallways to wander through.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Wacoede

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 02:29:00 +0000

Originally by: EspionageX

What?!? Why not? They had a /cabbagepatch in PS that was fun to do when you were waiting for the shuttle

Was great to form a little circle and /cabbagepatch dance

oh god memories

i was on the markov server part of the 666th Devil Dogs i remember when the devs gave us a award for helping out on a video they were shooting we all did the cabbagepatch dance (thats around 500 people all doing cabbagepatch)
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standard reply is "can i have stuff?"

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by EspionageX

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 00:55:00 +0000

Originally by: CCP kieron
If I recall correctly, Torfi stated in the Fanfest presentation that a /dance emote was not in the plans for the Ambulation project. As for rooms such as bars, I believe those are being planned.

What?!? Why not? They had a /cabbagepatch in PS that was fun to do when you were waiting for the shuttle

Was great to form a little circle and /cabbagepatch dance

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Danton Marcellus

Sat, 20 Dec 2009 00:44:00 +0000

Originally by: Criswell Blue
Edited by: Criswell Blue on 19/12/2008 23:56:36
Shoe Throw Emote. please.
Bang Shoe On Desk Emote, please.
Show Sole Of Shoe Emote, please.

Yes that's not old already...

I'd like to see color designations for different station sectors, even color lines to follow on the floor in caldari stations, them being bent on efficiency.

Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Criswell Blue

Fri, 19 Dec 2009 23:51:00 +0000

Edited by: Criswell Blue on 19/12/2008 23:56:36
Shoe Throw Emote. please.
Bang Shoe On Desk Emote, please.
Show Sole Of Shoe Emote, please.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruban Boatbuyer

Thu, 6 Nov 2009 14:19:00 +0000

Ahhhh the advantages of having a friend on the inside

Linkage

Behold the latest screenshot of the upcoming ambulation. This is what the inside of Jita will look like assuming they dont tweak the proposed Caldari station model too much. Like me you are probably wondering how my current GPU is going to cope with this?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Destination SkillQueue

Wed, 5 Nov 2009 15:12:00 +0000

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 05/11/2008 15:14:33

Originally by: Saladin
I would be against dancing of any kind. The game is bad enough with all the guys out there with female chars.

As for gambling, I am for that, but not poker, blackjack, slots or anything that exists in the real world. If ambulation brings forth games of chance, they should be games unique to the EvE universe.

While some new gambling games would be nice, events in EVE don't happen a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....(well in the future in a galaxy far, far away) Anyway EVE is about humanitys future, so real games should not be a problem.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Vexicator Nomxum

Wed, 5 Nov 2009 15:01:00 +0000

Sense no one seems to care I guess I was wrong assuming that ccp said they would be pushing ambulation out by the end of this year..

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Saladin

Tue, 4 Nov 2009 14:06:00 +0000

I would be against dancing of any kind. The game is bad enough with all the guys out there with female chars.

As for gambling, I am for that, but not poker, blackjack, slots or anything that exists in the real world. If ambulation brings forth games of chance, they should be games unique to the EvE universe.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Janet Marshall

Tue, 4 Nov 2009 11:44:00 +0000

Keiron is gone, the devs dont have time to listen and participate in our community anymore. Why are you raising this thread. Make a new one.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Stitcher

Tue, 4 Nov 2009 11:32:00 +0000

Originally by: NeoConvict
If the "in station" environment is on a different server than the "in space" environment, it creates a new transaction tracking opportunity. You can quite simply limit the size of the monetary element of an "in space" transaction/contract. I see several levels to this being necessary.

For example, transactions up to 10 mil are fast and easy and can happen anywhere, anytime, limited to once per hour between any 2 specific parties. (I know, just use an alt, but it would be annoying enough because it would slow it down a lot) Transactions up to 100 mil can be accomplished from any two stations, with nothing more needed than entry into the station and "identity confirmation scan" (character screenshot traded between partis ((for nice rpg feel)) and server log of account identities). Transactions above 100 mil require same station face to face, preceded by "identity confirmation scan" and access to a closed meeting room (more detailed server logging at this point). Contracts can and should follow the same regulations, for the same reasons.

If you don't mind treading on the toes of people who are legitimately shunting those kinds of sum about the place, that'd be fine, but I for one routinely transfer sums in excess of a hundred million between my main (who spends most of his time hopping all over New Eden low sec with a mercenary corp) and my alt (who's mostly resident in Sinq Laison), and I'm small-time. There are people out there juggling billions of ISK between their own alts and between their corp-mates for all sorts of legitimate reasons.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Vexicator Nomxum

Tue, 4 Nov 2009 11:23:00 +0000

Sooo....Ambulation isn't coming this year eh?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by SiJira

Fri, 31 Oct 2009 16:30:00 +0000

when ambulation comes we should be able to piggyback people
Trashed sig, Shark was here

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by NeoConvict

Thu, 30 Oct 2009 15:10:00 +0000

I admit I didn't read all 50 pages, but I'm throwing my ideas in the bucket in any case.

Use the in station environment to implement a system that can cut down on illegal trade in isk.

If the "in station" environment is on a different server than the "in space" environment, it creates a new transaction tracking opportunity. You can quite simply limit the size of the monetary element of an "in space" transaction/contract. I see several levels to this being necessary.

For example, transactions up to 10 mil are fast and easy and can happen anywhere, anytime, limited to once per hour between any 2 specific parties. (I know, just use an alt, but it would be annoying enough because it would slow it down a lot) Transactions up to 100 mil can be accomplished from any two stations, with nothing more needed than entry into the station and "identity confirmation scan" (character screenshot traded between partis ((for nice rpg feel)) and server log of account identities). Transactions above 100 mil require same station face to face, preceded by "identity confirmation scan" and access to a closed meeting room (more detailed server logging at this point). Contracts can and should follow the same regulations, for the same reasons.

Game time codes become a bit of an issue, however. I like that GTC sales don't require in game action at all, and it needs to remain that way. It would be best to make GTC sales an exception to the interface structure. Here's why. If a player's last moment in game were in space, he/she is not located in a station to finalize the contract as soon as game access is re-enabled. I can see lots of "lost ship" issues arising if a player and ship were forced from space into a station. So, it would need to remain as an exception, which isn't bad at all as it is already a secure transaction.

Just a thought. I'm sure you expert database people can see problems or opportunities I don't see, but I feel it is a worthy idea for consideration.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Zila Degan

Tue, 28 Oct 2009 10:46:00 +0000

i want ambulation pleasssssse !

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Irigom

Tue, 21 Oct 2009 18:06:00 +0000

Originally by: NeXXy DaLayde
50 pages and what 2 years later and this expansion still hasn't been released? When are we going to see this? what progress has been made?

second

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by NeXXy DaLayde

Sun, 19 Oct 2009 04:13:00 +0000

50 pages and what 2 years later and this expansion still hasn't been released? When are we going to see this? what progress has been made?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Serious Sally

Sun, 12 Oct 2009 08:54:00 +0000

Ive written an article that has been link to by Ten Ton Hammer, its titled "Why Ambulation is going to make EVE HUGE!"( title should give away my position on the subject). You should all read it and comment on it.

Linkage

Later All

Serious Sally

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by jcoutepascher

Sun, 12 Oct 2009 04:37:00 +0000

that looks awsome ! didnt even look at the 50 pages sorry :-)

Originally by: MasterDecoy
Originally by: Steppa

The skills you are going to need;
Stretching - level 1 - no pre-req (primary willpower - secondary social)
Standing - level 2 skill - pre-req Stretching III
Sitting - level 2 skill - pre-req stretching II

Walking - level 3 - pre-req stretching III, crawling I
Jogging - level 4 - pre-req stretching III, Walking III
Running - level 6 - pre-req stretching III, walking III
Dancing - level 8 - pre-req stretching IV, running IV
Moonwalking - level 12 - pre-req walking IV, pedophelia V, acquittal V, debt V

this man wins the thread

i agree

also things i would like :

- walk in ships aswell (includes take a srceenshot next to it :P )
- be more than one toon in a ship (tho only owner pilots it )
- be able to rent space/offices/residence/shops (decorate tem aswell)
- be able to paint ships
- buy trade goods like clothing & aparel (add more trade items & be able to use/wear them)
- bars/clubs/venues/churches/hostel/casinos ( you could restrict how much 'rooms' a station has
so that it would drive rent cost higher & thus creating a sublet market
- general public areas (rest areas, eating areas etc...)
- 'hollodecs' (artificial recreation areas) (holoreel's market ?)
- be able to control some NPC like militants, Exotic dancers,Janitors (maybe add a Scotty we can bash ;-P )
- ships landing on pads rather then just floating in hanger
- make hanger a personal space & 'park' your ship elswhere but still be only one to access it
- better eve talk/voice (its too choppy , you could use QoS flags maybe this would be more fluid )
- find more whomen/girls to play eve :P *dreaming*

but before that & most importantly Eve needs to be perfected as it is already.
by that i mean be more efficient on the client side maybe a linux native client aswell(not in a emulator )
fix stuff that dosent work properly . (why not make the client use multi-tread (multicore capable)
I would realy whant to see this come true yes but i would prefer if CCP focus on fixing stuff first then move on. EVE is great & has great potential for Expansion (either system/map wise or feature wise )
there is lots of ideas here & i think /hope ccp will take some in count .

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by DjLowballer

Fri, 10 Oct 2009 12:14:00 +0000

I am so pumped for this for one reason: It will bring my friends back to the game. Most of my friends love eve but NEED some little doll to dress to be happy. On my home forums I am the only one still playing. It will be nice to have them back.

For what I would like to see: Outlandish dress. Sure everyone can act the sleek, dark, mysterious person but I want the ability to own a tan zuit suit,purple shirt with a metallic pink tie, pink converse allstars, and a cowboy hat. Please put this or the EvE eq in the game please.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by EnslaverOfMinmatar

Thu, 9 Oct 2009 02:36:00 +0000

If wartargets dock and walk around the station, allow sabotage of their ships

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Alrekkar

Wed, 8 Oct 2009 15:54:00 +0000

Originally by: Red Crown
But on a lighter note. I also want to be able to walk up to the docks of other player's ships. "Hey, heard some guy got a Carrier/Dread/Faction Ship docked in here lets go see it!" I'd like to see station interiors changed so that I can see 2-5 ships docked next to mine and more in the background.

I second this and add that since you are now able to move around your own hangar, how about being able to view all your docked ships (Up to a certain number that can be cycled through and user selected as 'viewable in station') to get a better view of what you have available and also to show off in front of other pilots. Perhaps finally be able to view that 'Large Station Vault' or that stack of 'repackaged ships and equipment' that I know every player has sitting around waiting for the market to change to get the best price.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by T' Elk

Mon, 6 Oct 2009 01:15:00 +0000

Edited by: T'' Elk on 06/10/2008 01:34:32
OK.. Everything looks all good and purty.. I support the /dance emotes for one, because me wife wants to dance around me while im trying to fit me ship, and also because theyd make a nice addition to the emote collection

Bars would be great, and player run if possible. Gambling, sparing, trading, buying, selling etc in certain rooms such as trading, buying, selling in a market room, and gambling and sparing in separate rooms as well.

I would also like to see the scale of ships/objects corrected, as this sometimes makes the game look unreal.

I'm hoping that i will be able to run the in-station environments smoothly, so please try and keep the requirements down.. I.e. im running 32 bit Windows Vista Home Premium AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core processor 5400+ 2.8 GHz , NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GSS w/ 512mb video memory, 3.0gb ram. Hope it will work.

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See you on the battlefield my brothers, let the gods watch over you and let you live long!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Commander Whitford

Sat, 4 Oct 2009 11:23:00 +0000

Barfights?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by faceswapme

Mon, 29 Sep 2009 17:49:00 +0000

Edited by: faceswapme on 29/09/2008 17:49:31
I really like the atmousphere in EVE, the way there is no rush to do something and its almost relaxing to play when you want it to be.

When you dock in the station, I'd love to know whether you will be able to sit and watch the other ships dock around you.
and also when you are looking at your ship, to see some sort of tug ships bringing down another ship to dock next to you, etc.

I think what you guys at CCP are thinking of incorperating looks great, and if done right, this game could be absolutley EPIC.

EDIT - Doh, posted on wrong charachter.

Signed,

ShadowII

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Jobby

Fri, 26 Sep 2009 17:10:00 +0000

fs, 50 pages.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Nooto

Fri, 26 Sep 2009 14:15:00 +0000

pls release nanonerf on 16.11 it would be the perfect date for our nanokiddies to start a new wow career

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Deviana Sevidon

Thu, 25 Sep 2009 16:07:00 +0000

Originally by: Sokratesz
screw waaaaambulation, fix the bloody game

You mean the Nanonerf, Right? It is already overdue.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Sokratesz

Wed, 24 Sep 2009 12:09:00 +0000

screw waaaaambulation, fix the bloody game

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Wedge Capulet

Wed, 24 Sep 2009 12:05:00 +0000

Yeah, I want to play poker for isk in EVE's many station bars and casinos; would be good for when you're stuck in a station with nothing better to do.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Caesar Khan

Wed, 24 Sep 2009 11:59:00 +0000

If we are going to be able to walk around in stations and interact with whats ever in there i would suggest getting CASINOs.
Have you ever met a Miner/Pirate/Soldier etc that doesnt GAMBLE?

Have a chance to win those extra millions of isk or have a chance to lose them..
The casinos can have slot machines,pokertables where you play against other players,rulette,black jack,all the known games.
Im sure it would have been a hit.

I dont think every station should have a casino but it should be a few around.Then players that likes to gamble,but hate missions and mining,can have a chance to still make lots of isk in a short time

Just a thought and i dont know if this idea has been presented before.I didnt have time too read all posts.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Anahid Brutus

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 15:37:00 +0000

Originally by: Von Kleist
Please fix the lag in the game first, tia.

hey buddy, they can do both at once ok

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Von Kleist

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 15:34:00 +0000

Please fix the lag in the game first, tia.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Anahid Brutus

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 15:30:00 +0000

I, for one, greatly look forward to this feature!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Commander Raven

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 11:16:00 +0000

As long as it includes the fw ranks as well when u walking around :)
To make sure the role play carries on :)

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by ZackM21

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 10:12:00 +0000

anyone go a release date

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Aeswynne

Sun, 21 Sep 2009 07:40:00 +0000

Ambulation sounds great now it means the ISK spammers can follow us around the station.
Make the universe a better friendlier place, NUKE JITA.... Someone PLEASE?
What are you doing in my pod? GTFO!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Setarcos Nous

Fri, 19 Sep 2009 21:06:00 +0000

Originally by: Magmain
CCP teamed up with that ****** carebear MMO company to make a new game, ambulation is purely a bait and test additional game play feature for the upcoming game produced by both the companies.

Originally by: Kyra Felann
Wuh? What carebear MMO company? Are you referring to White Wolf? They make pen'n'paper role-playing games, not MMOs. Am I missing something here, or do you just have no clue what you're talking about?

Not to mention that (and as an old WoD LARP player I speak from experience) I would hardly call a game where perma-death is the norm "carebear".

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by FullMetal Basilisk

Fri, 19 Sep 2009 09:43:00 +0000

all i have to say is this:

I hope this comes to fuition, and there better be cleavage.

BOOOOBIIIESSS!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Danton Marcellus

Wed, 17 Sep 2009 23:17:00 +0000

Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 17/09/2008 23:20:52
I seriously hope the wardrobe section will be very large, with different styles of fashion from different regions, systems and planets even, allowing people to dress like a Poitot or Intaki Prime intaki should they opt to make a statement.

Surely the gallente hair/skin protective devices will be going out of fashion and be replaced by fancy hats and caps of all kinds, with feathers!

Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MotherMoon

Wed, 17 Sep 2009 22:51:00 +0000

at the same time as a a person go out dancing all the time, it's fun.

Dancing it random places is stupid, but what is wrong with dancing at a club?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Anita Too

Wed, 17 Sep 2009 16:00:00 +0000

Edited by: Anita Too on 17/09/2008 16:00:34
Excerpt from Eve novel:

"Mila was dressed in a sleveless dark top with a v-cut that exposed a subtle amount of cleavage, tapering tightly around her slim waist and then extending into an elegant dress that covered her feet with trains dancing behind her as she walked."

Do we get to dress our avatars like that? And note that wearing sexy dresses does not limit to just Gallenteans (as Mila is a Caldarian).

Edit: Typo

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by S3RGEANT

Wed, 17 Sep 2009 14:44:00 +0000

Originally by: Amber Leonne
I'll be brief. The entire purpose of avatars is immersion and interaction. Every single race needs unique interaction, we're very different people. If even the Gallente can't dance, you're simply not catering to the RPG of your MMO and any single damned thing you have written about the history/lifestyle of the races is null and void if you're not even going to prepresent it when given the opporunity. Just like I expect to see hallowed temples inside the Amarr stations with mass prayers and jihad ritual oragnizations before a fleet sets off to the faction war.

are you saying that because the Gallente (according to lore) are a very liberal and 'fun loving' race that all of their highly trained combat pilots should be dancing around the stations like a bunch of ******s??
That seems pretty damn stupid to me. im pretty sure that if the game were 'real' then all these hard nosed, academy trained pilots wouldnt even know how to smile let alone dance.

Dancing is stupid and i dont care which race is friendlier than the other. none of them should be give the dance function!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by RaWBLooD

Mon, 15 Sep 2009 00:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Shanree

I do agree with the emotes/jumping and all that... I don't see a necessity for any of that here. It would just seem out of place to me.

It would be fun to jump up onto high ledges and stare down at everyone staring at the market screens from above.
miners-you can: switch, rob, wardec, nerf, scam them, buy below market, pirate them on their way to sell. mining < trading, ratting, manufacturing from market bought minerals,they still wont go away

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Amira Silvermist

Sun, 14 Sep 2009 21:09:00 +0000

Originally by: Chuck Dexter

are there any new informations about the release-date of Ambulation?

I guess the time we hear about Ambulation will be at Fanfest. I doubt they will release more info before that.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Chuck Dexter

Sun, 14 Sep 2009 16:12:00 +0000

Hi,

are there any new informations about the release-date of Ambulation?
19 month ago since this thread started and I'm really excited, on which stage in developement Ambulation is.

Thank you very much for any infos.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Shanree

Fri, 29 Aug 2009 20:15:00 +0000

I'm way late in replying to this thread as, though I'd heard of the Ambulation project some time ago, when it was first announced, and thought "Oh, very cool...", I was deeply into another MMO and basically hadn't played Eve in a while.

That said, I was quite psyched to hear about the prospect of getting out of my ship, walking around those huge space stations that, as of now, only hint at activity going on (vehicles going back and forth, walkways sloping up to who-knows-where...), and I'd often sat looking around the stations wondering, "So... what would they do in these huge stations? I imagined people living and working, shopping... going about their lives, with these huge ships "pulling in" and docking was just a normal day-to-day thing. I'd think, "wouldn't it be cool to be able to actually walk around these stations..." I never actually thought it would happen since Eve was a strictly space-oriented game.

So, needless to say, the news of this Ambulatory system was quite cool. I was kinda expecting some kind of rudimentary "get out and walk around the space stations" type of deal, but nothing too ambitious. It hadn't occurred to me just how "all out" CCP would go on this. Needless to say... I'm impressed. And psyched.

I think it's going to add a lot more depth to an already really deep game, along with more opportunities for interaction, brought to a more "personal" level. Rather than communicating from between ships zipping around a huge universe, which tends to feel kind of cold and impersonal, we'll be able to get out of those ships and meet in a meeting room, or a bar, etc. That's an extremely cool concept to me. I think it has the potential to do some great things in terms of community.

I do agree with the emotes/jumping and all that... I don't see a necessity for any of that here. It would just seem out of place to me. These are supposed to be real people existing in an alternate universe... not elves and gnomes frolicking happily through some colorful fantasy forest.

So yeah... Very cool stuff, indeed.

Can't wait to see this implemented.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Wed, 27 Aug 2009 03:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Javeeik
I dont understand why a few of you are wishing this dosent come to play, if you dont want to walk around a station you dont have to, it will add a much more immersive aspect for roleplayers and possibly be as if not more addictive as old SWG was, the idea of owning places in stations where players can interact is fun, and the chat channels will still be there so no1 is excluded, and AGAIN i say it is OPTIONAL you dont have to walk around.

also dance emotes probably will be in it, however only in appropriate places ie dance floors/clubs i read. so you wont just get idiots doing it allover.

One of the main issues I've seen is the convoluted belief that CCP could somehow magically make more developers and graphic artists make the code perfect and solve internet lag (some may even believe world hunger, who knows). So they attest that this is 'wasted resources'.

Course, development doesn't work that way. 'More developers' don't usually solve a problem any better than less (even developers have stacking penalties). Graphic artists and layout designers aren't too shit-hot at coding, usually. And lag can never be 'fixed', as with each increase in capacity will come a direct increase in use (ooh, I know so many hate hearing that it's the players' fault, but alas, tis often true).

Then, they don't understand that CCP /= EvE. The money players spend each month to pay for EvE goes into many projects, the ones we know about include EvE's marketing campaign, the card game, the t-shirts and posters, the magazines and books, as well as CCP's other venture with White Wolf producing a completely separate MMO. And let's not forget that there are probably many things that are not even public and are being researched or in production.

Finally, the concept that EvE is better a certain way. Here's where I default, as every player that loves the game, values it and wishes it to be a certain way. This is simply the way it is. Many feel that adding things such as ambulation, or planetary flight, with 'lessen' the game and make it weaker. To those individuals, only time can tell if they are right or not. I predict 'not', but there's still more to see.

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Brigsby5987

Wed, 27 Aug 2009 02:43:00 +0000

Originally by: Javeeik
I dont understand why a few of you are wishing this dosent come to play, if you dont want to walk around a station you dont have to, it will add a much more immersive aspect for roleplayers and possibly be as if not more addictive as old SWG was, the idea of owning places in stations where players can interact is fun, and the chat channels will still be there so no1 is excluded, and AGAIN i say it is OPTIONAL you dont have to walk around.

also dance emotes probably will be in it, however only in appropriate places ie dance floors/clubs i read. so you wont just get idiots doing it allover.

Dont forget, it REDUCES LAG by removing market alts, and people who are otherwise docked and putting them on a seperate "station server" . Anyone who doesnt want to have to get out of their pod can opt out. But you still get to benefit from having less people in space. We all know that the number of people in space compared to the number of people in stations is not an even number. Id say in any given system around 50% or more are docked.

This change might not effect 0,0 as much.... but it sure as hell isnt going to hurt you.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Javeeik

Wed, 27 Aug 2009 01:36:00 +0000

I dont understand why a few of you are wishing this dosent come to play, if you dont want to walk around a station you dont have to, it will add a much more immersive aspect for roleplayers and possibly be as if not more addictive as old SWG was, the idea of owning places in stations where players can interact is fun, and the chat channels will still be there so no1 is excluded, and AGAIN i say it is OPTIONAL you dont have to walk around.

also dance emotes probably will be in it, however only in appropriate places ie dance floors/clubs i read. so you wont just get idiots doing it allover.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ultin Harvor

Fri, 15 Aug 2009 15:08:00 +0000

Originally by: Neth'Rae
Originally by: Ultin Harvor
But what I want to know is will it be compatible with classic graphics? Just got a laptop (Dell + Vista = Uber annoyance!) which can't run premium, I don't think it can anyway. I'll be using this laptop for at least 3 years while I'm at University so I hope that I will be able to walk around while I'm there. There's nothing worse than being stuck inside while your friends are out having fun, and this ectoplasm is going off!

No, Ambulation will require the premium graphics, otherwise they would have to make new textures and models just for the premium client, also I think it uses quite alot of the new stuff added in the premium gfx-engine.
So you better get a better laptop or a stationary..

Thanks Neth....and damnit

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Neth'Rae

Fri, 15 Aug 2009 13:57:00 +0000

Originally by: Ultin Harvor
But what I want to know is will it be compatible with classic graphics? Just got a laptop (Dell + Vista = Uber annoyance!) which can't run premium, I don't think it can anyway. I'll be using this laptop for at least 3 years while I'm at University so I hope that I will be able to walk around while I'm there. There's nothing worse than being stuck inside while your friends are out having fun, and this ectoplasm is going off!

No, Ambulation will require the premium graphics, otherwise they would have to make new textures and models just for the premium client, also I think it uses quite alot of the new stuff added in the premium gfx-engine.
So you better get a better laptop or a stationary..

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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Kavin Alavandar

Fri, 15 Aug 2009 13:44:00 +0000

Yes, Sidus, you will actually have to remake your avatar to use Ambulation.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Sidus Isaacs

Wed, 13 Aug 2009 12:35:00 +0000

One importent thing: WIll I be able to change my avatar with this? I do not think my avatar is suitet for walking around :P

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Political Prisoner

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:17:00 +0000

THIS IS AWESOME ... you're fixing lag when ??

Respectfully,

Political Prisoner

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Richtor Mettle

Tue, 12 Aug 2009 20:09:00 +0000

Bump and a question.

I know that we will be able to see our ships in the hangers; however will we also see other ships docking in the background or ships flying past the docking bay you are in?

Oh, and I hope it won't be like Earth & Beyond where everyone goes to the same docking bay to leave the station. Talk about losing the suspension of disbelief.

Currently I feel like I'm the only one in the station in the only hanger since I never see anyone else undocking and going past my hanger while in the station.
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ultin Harvor

Sat, 9 Aug 2009 11:39:00 +0000

Originally by: sexyminer
what butons are we going to use to move around is it like first person shotters were we use w s a d or arrow keys or r we using the same as moving ships double clicking on the floor?

I believe that you will be able to choose, also I think that it was mentioned somewhere that you will be able to zoom 'inside' your characters head to get a first person perspective.

But what I want to know is will it be compatible with classic graphics? Just got a laptop (Dell + Vista = Uber annoyance!) which can't run premium, I don't think it can anyway. I'll be using this laptop for at least 3 years while I'm at University so I hope that I will be able to walk around while I'm there. There's nothing worse than being stuck inside while your friends are out having fun, and this ectoplasm is going off!

Oh and can someone please scratch my neck, I can't reach it inside this damn Pod!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by sexyminer

Thu, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:00 +0000

what butons are we going to use to move around is it like first person shotters were we use w s a d or arrow keys or r we using the same as moving ships double clicking on the floor?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Levinn Orpherus

Thu, 7 Aug 2009 11:37:00 +0000

me want now

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Natheniel

Wed, 6 Aug 2009 20:12:00 +0000

Any word on the release date yet?
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Draeca

Tue, 5 Aug 2009 14:56:00 +0000

Well we be able to bear the FW decoration medals in our jackets?
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 23:15:00 +0000

Eh, maybe to her it is. I can understand if that was what she was saying, because that seems to be popular opinion nowadays anyway. My generation and those who have come after are becoming more and more impersonal, by my opinion, to the point where they are locked behind computers and neck-bent over phones all day.

If I'm stuck in house, the least I want to do is to be able to get out and meet people. I'm not female, but when CCP said that 'some people just don't think of themselves as ships', I knew exactly what they meant. I relate much more to a moving body and actions than I do a slow moving tank.

I've also been involved in a lot of deceptions, on the receiving and giving end. One way it is so EASY to deceive in EvE is because of the impersonal nature of chat. That's how I see it, at least. There is so much you can do with just words, to mislead, offer insult, double suggest, etc, etc. I just disagreed on the basic principle that the words you say are no less fake than the face you wear. They are just as much a part of it.

I mean, do you think every character I have uses exact verbage or big words or punctuation? Do you think every character I play even speak English?

But I think people are more likely to assign significance, subconscious or not, to something that they SEE, than something they hear. Some will, anyhow. Just reading text doesn't have the same effect as seeing someone in front of you and knowing they are talking.

I wonder how general I am being when I say that older players might feel more comfortable, at least superficially, when they talk face-to-face.

All I know is that, to me, stations aren't going to be a limitation. I have a few channels I speak in, but sometimes I talk to only those who are docked in station with me. If anything, it's impersonal, because your either in a temporary chat room, or your using local. I'd love to be in the same room as some. I'm not going to be feeling 'cut off' or restricted, at least.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MotherMoon

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:00 +0000

sorry but among other things biff has said that immersion doesn't exist.

It sounded more to me like "You're putting more value into the impersonal" meant he was saying that your opinion is wrong. that you way of thinking if broken.

Originally by: Dapanman1
Terrible idea, you're an idiot

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 22:23:00 +0000

Hey, they state their opinion. I stated mine fairly, I openly disagreed with her opinion. There was no malice, no insults, no snide remarks. I'm trying to be civil. Please don't be 'uncivil' for me

I put value on a lot of things that others don't find to be important. A good hand shake, a respectful nod, saying hello to someone as you pass. I prefer to deal with people the way I wish they would deal with me. I try to 'humanize' them, instead of just leaving them as 'neighbor' or 'person.'

So, the face is digital, and thus, fake. For many, their whole persona is fake, from the moment the touch the keyboard. I don't know of too many who go by their real names online. I'm the closest one I know, actually, and that's only because I've used this same moniker for a long while now, across many games. But that's not the same.

Ambulation opens possibilities for interaction that weren't available before. It may just 'personalize' EvE for a lot of people. Instead of seeing nothing but a face (I'm sorry, but all Khanid look the same to me), you might remember a style or a particular habit. Sometimes its not all roleplay. One of my old friends used to be a chronic smoker, so you could tell when he took a puff, cause he'd stop moving for just a moment. Annoying at first, but after awhile it just seemed 'him.'

But I don't think the digital face and actions will be any more fake or less than the persona that we write through in the chat channel. In one channel I'm serious, in another I'm joking around (poor Gallente people ;?j ). In Amarr I'm as likely to be roleplaying as talking about radioactive sheep. Do any of these people 'interacting' with me see any more of my personality than this mockery of a world allows?

So, I disagree with you. To me, being face to face with someone will at least FEEL more real, even if I know it's no different. And, I don't think I'm alone out there.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ubu

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 22:19:00 +0000

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Ruze
Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

The face is fake and the words are real. You're putting more value into the impersonal.

stop trolling people, the only reason you posted what you just did was to get a rise out of someone posting their opinion.

Really? You think that his statement is a troll? I think he's trying to point out how it looks to him and where value of the social interaction actually exists. Not a troll at all. In fact I think your post is the one that adds nothing to the conversation.

As for the poker and all of that. I can not see a good reason to only allow it for ambulation. Segregating it's usability as a means of forcing people into ambulation while there is no compelling reason would seem to indicate a lack of confidence in ambulation's usefulness. Mining is so bloody boring it would actually be nice to have the games option. That or see more mining macros. Did I mention mining numbs the brain?

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by MotherMoon

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 21:37:00 +0000

Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Ruze
Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

The face is fake and the words are real. You're putting more value into the impersonal.

stop trolling people, the only reason you posted what you just did was to get a rise out of someone posting their opinion.

Originally by: Dapanman1
Terrible idea, you're an idiot

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by B1FF

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 21:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Ruze
Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

The face is fake and the words are real. You're putting more value into the impersonal.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Berendas

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 18:03:00 +0000

I always though it would be cool if people w/o much coin could buy those little module-like stations (Pleasure Hub sized) just for a place to meet and chat w/ friends.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:43:00 +0000

Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Ruze
Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

But will it be a hassle for your friend? You're going to talk to your friend, with one of the existing methods, and ask them to stop what they are doing and travel to your location so they can talk to you while excluding others in your social group who may be able to contribute to the interaction?

That's some how better than just talking to them. You know through that method you used to ask them to come talk to you. That makes no sense.

That's the wonder of friends. Sometimes he'll tell you 'nah, ain't got time', and other times he'll come over. Nothing is an absolute. In the one hand we can have this impersonal conversation from a galaxy away. On the other, the players in my same system might mean a lot more to me than just people I pass as I go about my business.

I guess it's the same as how cities work. We stay at home, drive to work, work, then come home. In a small town, that used to be different. You knew everyone around you, because you HAD to interact with them. Now, we have TV and internet and phone, and we get in cars and drive a thousand miles. And we don't know our own neighbors.

Ambulation will be adding that front porch to EvE. Some may think this is a 'old and outdated'. Personally, I think it's more advanced and civilized. I'm under the distinct impression that our world is quickly regressing and human beings are no longer forced to really relate with one another.

There's a whole sociopolitical topic there. Maybe we can meet in a station somewhere and talk it over further.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:38:00 +0000

My own opinion is that the primary reason to not allow poker in a pod is to help bring players into Ambulation. There will be many shopowners in those few systems that are busy, and one of their 'selling' points might just be to host tournaments, etc.

If a person really wants to play poker in EvE, he will get out of his ship and really interact. If he is so intent on playing poker while mining, he can alt-tab and play it in a broswer, or maybe even through the in-game browser. But if he's out and walking, he can actually get involved in body posture and emotes. He can try to bluff or act happy.

Again, we're stating an opinion. I think it'll be perfectly suited for only Ambulation. It'll help draw crowds, it'll add a bit of that 'special flavor'. And pilots will meet face to face.

Personally, I hope they leave the social hour for Ambulation, and the ship piloting for space. Maybe even one day we might see market and research/industry actions restricted in dock, at least.

Just an opinion.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by B1FF

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:31:00 +0000

Originally by: Ruze
Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

But will it be a hassle for your friend? You're going to talk to your friend, with one of the existing methods, and ask them to stop what they are doing and travel to your location so they can talk to you while excluding others in your social group who may be able to contribute to the interaction?

That's some how better than just talking to them. You know through that method you used to ask them to come talk to you. That makes no sense.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by B1FF

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:20:00 +0000

Originally by: Robrina Brun
I'm not sure, but we might be talking to a sockpuppet.. anyways.

As far as I can see, amongst the ambulation features that have been announced (but not confirmed), the only one that makes any sense to be used while "In Pod" is the Tactical Map. Of course, little IC reasons can be made to prevent it from being edited while in the field.

Gambling and mini-games seem out of place as part of a combat vessels computer software compliment. You don't want G'narg, the Navigation slave playing dice instead of keeping the sensors properly aligned.

The rest: housing, bars, deeper character customization; are decidedly ambulation based. And, as far as that one special dress costing more than a battleship. We are the social elite of the EvE universe, 1 isk is enough to feed a family of four for a year, probably several. Of course we're going to be buying clothing that is insanely expensive.

Game fiction justification for features is fail. You design the features and then alter the fiction to match. It's called fiction for a reason.

There's no reason for poker in a pod?
Game Mechanic: If you allow people to play poker in ship then you have a larger audience for poker. Larger audience means larger chance of finding people to play against thus more people using the feature. You also get the funny situations like yelling at your tackler cause they missed a grab due to an intense hand. Funny things like that are what we look back on fondly. That's social interaction.

Game Fiction:
The Caldari Gaming Commision (CGC) is proud to announce a new plugin for pod software that allows poker to be piggy backed over the current communication system. That means that you can now play poker on CGC sanctioned tables from anywhere. Some suspect that this move by the CGC is an attempt to create a new revue source to help offset the increased costs of the war between the empires as part of a secret deal brokered with the Caldari State in regards to the fraud investigation from earlier this year. When asked for comment CGC spokesperson Dave Cassel said, "We're merely providing a requested product to the widest possible user base. That's what we're in business to do. Any rumors of war funding are simply rumors."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:16:00 +0000

Me, personally? I don't like using EvE as an instant messenger. Getting out and talking with someone, digitally face-to-face, isn't going to be a hassle. I even prefer it to sending tells or talking in an open channel in other games.

I think that there will be a lot of empty stations, but for those few that are active and lively, there will be plenty of interaction that can only be had by expressing yourself in your character, through movements and setting.

But I've made due with this limited form of communications (despite it's 'range', I still see it as limited) for three years or so now. I will be pretty happy to have something that I see as superior.

That's just me. I'm an old MUD fan, a pretty die-hard roleplayer, and maybe just plain old-fashioned. Talking to some one face-to-face is almost always preferable to using a cell or texting. Feels more personal, feels more genuine, and it feels more sincere.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by B1FF

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 17:05:00 +0000

Originally by: Big Trader

What? No, you still get your "Alliance" channel, you still get your "Corp" channel, you still get all your other normal channels like usual. What might change is that instead of speaking in "local" that goes star system-wide, it becomes more of a "Everyone on station" sort of local.

The chat channels are already on a 'seperate' server, somewhat. B1FF just likes to spin things to look worse than they really are.

Please show me where I said chat channels were going away.

The point I'm trying to illustrate is: You won't be using ambu nearly as much as you think you will due to the fact that existing communication is vastly superior.

A station is the smallest possible pool of people to communicate to. Alliance and/or corp is the largest. Any interaction you do in ambulation is only visible by people in ambu at your current station. Any interaction you do in corp/alliance channel is visible by everyone in the corp/alliance. If you're in ambu with 3 corp mates and you say something 4 people can see it and respond. If you say that same thing in corp then everyone in the corp can see it and respond. Thus you're going to be talking in corp. Add in the fact that you also limit your possible actions and there's no incentive to use it.

The idea that you have more or better social interaction by limiting your audience is what is broken about ambu and why I say people won't use it. A social person is not going to make use of something that limits their ability to be social. Their interaction will be in corp or alliance or their rp channel or blueprints or any other place you interact currently.

tl;dr You don't get better social interaction by limiting your audience and what you can do while interacting with them.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Anosse

Mon, 4 Aug 2009 03:34:00 +0000

I'd like it if there were different styles of clothing available in different areas of space, that way you can tell where a person has been.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by bUBbLeS

Sun, 3 Aug 2009 11:17:00 +0000

Originally by: Yargan Rasaan

So, back to ideas and suggestions. I know it's been mentioned a lot, but concerning maybe some day being able to land on planets:

wouldn't that bring a whole new varitey/more possibilities for trade, production etc.?

I'm talking about such simple but nonetheless important things as food! Corporations growing veggies on a planet to feed their npc-employees, stuff like that.

And you'd be able to catch mini-pets

Insert cAKe here!!!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Yargan Rasaan

Sun, 3 Aug 2009 08:49:00 +0000

Edited by: Yargan Rasaan on 03/08/2008 08:55:31

Originally by: Ruze

I haven't seen a specific reference saying that a player won't be able to see local. I haven't seen any reference saying that a player won't be able to see a station-wide channel, or if each individual room will actually have it's own channel.

But me? I'm just personally against local in general. Both as an intel tool AND as a spam channel that only the fools can shut off. So of course, I'm going to be hoping for 'no-local' ambulation.

In that case... BRING IT ON!
Yeah, I got that whole chat-channel thingy wrong. I sometimes wish I could turn off local, too.

THX for enlightening me, folks!

So, back to ideas and suggestions. I know it's been mentioned a lot, but concerning maybe some day being able to land on planets:

wouldn't that bring a whole new varitey/more possibilities for trade, production etc.?

I'm talking about such simple but nonetheless important things as food! Corporations growing veggies on a planet to feed their npc-employees, stuff like that.

Plus it just fells right to land on a PLANET for once. I had been a bit disappointed when I first started playing Eve, not being able to land on planets. Feels natural to me. After all, we live on one in RL.

Edit: Just read my post again. This is actually not necesserily ambulation related.
But it would be great to walk under a blue sky! Gives the old Privateer/Freelancer feeling.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 19:56:00 +0000

Eh, we all spin the dradle now and then. Obviously our perception of words and whispers will suit our own personal opinions. That's just being human.

What WAS talked about in the tentonhammer vid was that each room having it's own chat 'channel', with rooms actually having user limits. They seem to be focusing alot on allowing your character, when speaking to another player, to look and interact ... emotes, smiles, etc.

I haven't seen a specific reference saying that a player won't be able to see local. I haven't seen any reference saying that a player won't be able to see a station-wide channel, or if each individual room will actually have it's own channel.

But me? I'm just personally against local in general. Both as an intel tool AND as a spam channel that only the fools can shut off. So of course, I'm going to be hoping for 'no-local' ambulation.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Big Trader

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 19:51:00 +0000

Originally by: Yargan Rasaan
Since that would be a result of different servers being used for each, it's a fact that this is going to happen?
If so, not well indeed.
Me not being a computerist meself can only hope CCP will come up with a solution for this. Would a third server just for chat be helpful? Or am I just being silly?

Note: I can't wait for ambulation. Just having concerns.

What? No, you still get your "Alliance" channel, you still get your "Corp" channel, you still get all your other normal channels like usual. What might change is that instead of speaking in "local" that goes star system-wide, it becomes more of a "Everyone on station" sort of local.

The chat channels are already on a 'seperate' server, somewhat. B1FF just likes to spin things to look worse than they really are.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Borg9

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 18:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Al Thorr
Ambulation will cause lag. Fact.

Its relatively simple to work out why.

Nuff sed really

Lets hope it never comes to light. just like reverse engineering

Regards

Al Thorr

Dude stop drivin the failbus....if half the ppl in eve are on the ambulation server then that means that only half of eve will be on the space server meaning less lag. So your pretty much dividing the population between 2 servers.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Yargan Rasaan

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 17:43:00 +0000

Edited by: Yargan Rasaan on 02/08/2008 17:45:46

Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: Yargan Rasaan

One point (made by B1FF, I think) actually does concern me. Ambu being on a different server with the impossibility of speaking with persons outside. Since i can't be bothered to file through the whole thread, can anyone please enlighten me on this?

Normal chat channels are not going away. The problem is that a station is the smallest possible subset of people in the game. With the current system we can interact socially with anyone anywhere anytime. So are you going to talk to the handful that are docked where you are _and_ in ambu or are you going to talk to your corp?

Since that would be a result of different servers being used for each, it's a fact that this is going to happen?
If so, not well indeed.
Me not being a computerist meself can only hope CCP will come up with a solution for this. Would a third server just for chat be helpful? Or am I just being silly?

Note: I can't wait for ambulation. Just having concerns.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Lafe

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 15:19:00 +0000

In a strange kind of way I'm looking forward to this. Probably because I get to make a new portrait for all my characters (right?).

And oh, also because IAC probably will open a big, fat bar somewhere in a Jita station near you.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 15:00:00 +0000

I've been waiting and daydreaming about ambulation since 2005. I can wait another year.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Nottingham Lace

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 14:13:00 +0000

this looks alright if it will be in game in 6 months or less

if its going to take year or more, it wont be so sweet later on

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Ruze

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 13:26:00 +0000

Originally by: Al Thorr
Well the way I see it .... Especially if you squint really hard ...

The fact that it is on a seperate serer means that lag mnust occur. as you are changing from server to server as you ambulate and fly etc.

Imagine jita for example - yes yes I know worst case scenario. imagine 50% of population there changing between ambulation / eve servers and back every couple of minutes. Surely that would cause lag.

I admit that Ambulation per se will not cuase the lag. just the getting to and from the servers.

Yeah, you could generate about the same lag with log-offs and log-ins, which when done in mass can really effect a system. You won't be lagging in ambulation as you walk around, and you won't be lagging BECAUSE of people walking around in Ambulation, but as people keep having to load up your system coming back to their ships from the Ambulation servers, it could and probably would cause a small bit of lag, especially done in mass.

Only time I can see it being *noticable* is if a corp gets an emergency notification during a party or meeting or some such.

"The greatest offense is no defense."

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Dictum Factum

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 12:20:00 +0000

Originally by: bUBbLeS
also would give extra server power for mini-pets

There goes the neighborhood.

I know less than you think I do.

Gemini Sun is Recruiting

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by bUBbLeS

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 11:57:00 +0000

if it was on another server cluster to the "outside"- it wouldnt matter, you dont want to be going "outside" unless your in a ship do you?

also would give extra server power for mini-pets

Insert cAKe here!!!

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Al Thorr

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 09:25:00 +0000

Well the way I see it .... Especially if you squint really hard ...

The fact that it is on a seperate serer means that lag mnust occur. as you are changing from server to server as you ambulate and fly etc.

Imagine jita for example - yes yes I know worst case scenario. imagine 50% of population there changing between ambulation / eve servers and back every couple of minutes. Surely that would cause lag.

I admit that Ambulation per se will not cuase the lag. just the getting to and from the servers.

Just a Thought

Regards

Al Thorr
"You cant polish a turd" - The new rendered font is living proof.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Flamewave

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 02:24:00 +0000

Originally by: Al Thorr
Ambulation will cause lag. Fact.

Its relatively simple to work out why.

Nuff sed really

Lets hope it never comes to light. just like reverse engineering

Regards

Al Thorr

A butterfly flaps its wings in Central Park and the Eve cluster lags?
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EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Stitcher

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 01:49:00 +0000

This whole conversation would be a lot smoother if we could somehow set it up so that people have to pass a test before they can post here.
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Lt. Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Eve Spair

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 01:48:00 +0000

Originally by: Al Thorr
Ambulation will cause lag. Fact.

Its relatively simple to work out why.

Nuff sed really

Lets hope it never comes to light. just like reverse engineering

Regards

Al Thorr

fail, ambulation will be on different servers and thus will NOT affect the regular server(s) in anyway. Meaning no additional lag whatsoever.
Please read up on the matter before stating such a ridiculous claim.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Al Thorr

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 00:07:00 +0000

Ambulation will cause lag. Fact.

Its relatively simple to work out why.

Nuff sed really

Lets hope it never comes to light. just like reverse engineering

Regards

Al Thorr

"You cant polish a turd" - The new rendered font is living proof.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Falkus Windowmaker

Sat, 2 Aug 2009 00:02:00 +0000

Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: Ruze
Ambulation without real usefullness, is nothing but novelty. Agreed.

Games in general have no usefulness and are nothing but novelties. I was always under the impression that games were for having fun with, and as long as people have fun walking around, going to bars, buying clothes, etc, then it's not any more a novelty than fleet combat or manufacturing or missions.

Also a very good point. I used to play Matrix Online, back before SOE bought it. There wasn't a lot of diversity in missions, PvP was kind of a sham, but I spent so much time partying. There wasn't any level gain or money being made with it, but it was fun, in it's way.

SOE didn't buy Matrix Online. Matrix Online was given away for free by Warner Bros in exchange for selling the rights to the DC comics MMO IP license to SOE. In fact Warner Bros couldn't wait to get the Martix Online off their hands because it was such an epic failure. Also SOE was not even interested in acquiring the Martix Online at the time either but free is free.

EVE Ambulation (aka Full Body Avatar) Discussion - by Lui Kai

Fri, 1 Aug 2009 22:38:00 +0000

The only mechanic I can think of to encourage ambulation without requiring it is an accelerated training time while out of pod but logged in.

But honestly, an artificial mechanic like that still isn't good for the feature, and ultimately would just lead to folks standing around AFK all day, anyway.
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