EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Ishmael Hansen]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#20 Originally by: Atandros
Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Please CCP tell me how is invention suposed to work?

A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.

Now ME datacores sell at 500 rp's each, that's 108 days of accumulating rp's, with the best of luck I can try invent in every 60 to 100 days. So in one year I can try invent a single bpc (cos no way you can try it with diferent bps) a total of 3, yes 3 times. AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, COS IT'S A CHANCE BASED THING

IS THIS A JOKE? For 2 years that I'm hoping CCP will fix r&d, I wasn't expecting much with tis invention deal, but I wasn't thinking it wasn't this bad.





Have you ever noticed the market tab in your neocom?


Yeah, mechanical engineering datacores was 25m in market yesterday, I need 8, that's 200m, not counting the 8 in starship, knowing that a tech 2 cruiser costs 17m to build, DOES THIS SOUND REASONABLE?


]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 13:01:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377556 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Imhotep Khem]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#19 ____
"If your not dyin' your not tryin'."
"Are you prepared to go all the way, Alexi?" DuGalle]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 12:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377762 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Darth Bob]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#18
5 agents on a character, 3 characters on an account, 70RP/day without doing missions

1050 RP/day

That's 8 days for a cerb bpc? sounds pretty sweet to me


]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 12:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377898 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Alcrista Somez]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#17
I can see both sides, in that those who do have T2 bpos, either by chance or by parting with a large amount of isk, will want to protect their ability to make a fortune. While those of use that dont have T2 bpos will always be slightly miffed that the dice didnt fall in our favour and theres no 'for sure' way of making up for that. But thats life.


]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 12:15:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377935 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Bermag]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#16 Originally by: skillbuyer
Datacores are available in pretty solid amounts from certain exploration content.


Have you been to any of the exploration contents so you know they are in solid amounts?
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 12:14:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377937 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by ockackies]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#15 Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Please CCP tell me how is invention suposed to work?

A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.


ive got a level 3 high energy physcis agent, he gives me 45rp's / day, and thats without doing any missions, so I could get 1 core every 5 1/2days if I also did missions. Also remember you can have upto 6 (5 sensibly) agents running at once, which would be about 1 datacore a day with missions.

I also have 46k RP saved up, so I can buy 4 cores / day for the next 23 days. If I was more of an industry character I would have had 5 agents by now, and be able to buy alot more cores.
There is going to be alot of people with saved up RP, so the market is likly to start getting flooded with cores for the next month as people buy thier limits each day. What I dont understand iswhy your level 4 agent is giving you less RP then my level 3.
Oh, and remember you can get more RP/day by increasing your relevent science skills.
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 12:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4377983 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Seishomaru]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#14 Originally by: Victor Valka
Lets just hope datacores are available from other sources then agents.

And that people are smart about what they do with them.

I certainly wouldn't sell them.


reprocess for 42 tritanium ?
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 11:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378154 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Tulakh]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#13
You cannot get ALL datacores from just a single agent (and are limited to 4 a day).
So basicly this means market / contracts serve you the ability to collect them all Smile

Also train up on charisma skill, train up agent standings skill this will improve agent quality which will increase your research point accumulation (i have an lvl 2 agent giveing me 75RP a day).

Another note if you can do it create an research agent on each of your 3 accounts, that way you can get 12 datacores a day and acumulate 3x the ammount of RP you normally could (6x if you do the missions on all 3 accounts).

Also invention doesn't mean you can step up to the highest tier 2 battleship anyway since you still need to aquire the T2 components which will take some time to collect aswell.
It is not meant to be an instant replacement tool to bring the world T2 ships nor is it meant to bring unlimited wealth (hence the 4 datacores a day limit, and to prevent an market flood from people who want to sell them).

Another side note there *IS* a chance your invention can fail which means bye bye datacores and the thing starts right over again.

Anyway good luck!
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 11:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378237 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Audrea]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#12 Originally by: skillbuyer
Datacores are available in pretty solid amounts from certain exploration content.


Such as?

Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it?
Save Tranquility! Rolling Eyes]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 11:18:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378395 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Shar Tegral]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#11 Originally by: Victor Valka
And that people are smart about what they do with them. I certainly wouldn't sell them.

I most certainly plan to sell them. And buy them, too.
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.

Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 11:16:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378413 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Victor Valka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#10
And that people are smart about what they do with them.

I certainly wouldn't sell them.
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 11:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378498 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by James Lyrus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#9 Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: James Lyrus
Rubbish. It's just not a solo industry.


Actually. Inventions were conceived to help the small guys.


No, it was conceived to break that T2 cartels, and allow newer players into the T2 economy. It was intended to provide a less moronic way of distributing T2 than a lottery, which meant that people who actually wanted to 'do research' could, and it would make a difference.

This in no way precludes them buying the materials needed, producing and reselling the product to cover costs.
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 10:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378790 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Victor Valka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#8 Originally by: James Lyrus
Rubbish. It's just not a solo industry.


Actually. Inventions were conceived to help the small guys.
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 10:21:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4378877 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by James Lyrus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#7
There's what, 100k+ accounts in EVE. If _all_ of them generate 20 rps/day (getting standings to use a L2 agent is pretty easy) then that's a whole lot of datacores.

If they're worth a newbie training up to get a couple of mill every month or two, then it'll happen.

Or, perhaps pool them with your corpmates? I've got a corp of 30 people, pretty much all of whom have R&D agents in some shape or form...

I think this is a brilliant move - more economy is great.
]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 10:01:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379032 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Victor Valka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#6 ]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 09:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379133 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by skillbuyer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#5 ]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 09:39:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379159 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by solidshot]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#4 Even worse you need the racial encryption skill, and the minnie one for example is going for 300 mil a pop Mad


]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 09:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379206 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Atandros]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#3 Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Please CCP tell me how is invention suposed to work?

A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.

Now ME datacores sell at 500 rp's each, that's 108 days of accumulating rp's, with the best of luck I can try invent in every 60 to 100 days. So in one year I can try invent a single bpc (cos no way you can try it with diferent bps) a total of 3, yes 3 times. AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, COS IT'S A CHANCE BASED THING

IS THIS A JOKE? For 2 years that I'm hoping CCP will fix r&d, I wasn't expecting much with tis invention deal, but I wasn't thinking it wasn't this bad.





Have you ever noticed the market tab in your neocom?
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Sun! Sex! Sin! Death and destruction!]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 09:14:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379289 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Vorian Atraties]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837&page=1#2
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]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 08:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379485 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Ishmael Hansen]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837
A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.

Now ME datacores sell at 500 rp's each, that's 108 days of accumulating rp's, with the best of luck I can try invent in every 60 to 100 days. So in one year I can try invent a single bpc (cos no way you can try it with diferent bps) a total of 3, yes 3 times. AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, COS IT'S A CHANCE BASED THING

IS THIS A JOKE? For 2 years that I'm hoping CCP will fix r&d, I wasn't expecting much with tis invention deal, but I wasn't thinking it wasn't this bad.




]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 07:21:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379782 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Ishmael Hansen]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837
A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.

Now ME datacores sell at 500 rp's each, that's 108 days of accumulating rp's, with the best of luck I can try invent in every 60 to 100 days. So in one year I can try invent a single bpc (cos no way you can try it with diferent bps) a total of 3, yes 3 times. AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, COS IT'S A CHANCE BASED THING

IS THIS A JOKE? For 2 years that I'm hoping CCP will fix r&d, I wasn't expecting much with tis invention deal, but I wasn't thinking it wasn't this bad.




]]> Wed, 29 Nov 2009 07:21:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/4379783 <![CDATA[Invention = the crap (tech 2 lobby won again?) - by Ishmael Hansen]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=432837
A caracal bp needs 8 starship and 8 mechanical engineering datacores for invention, my mechanichal engineering lvl 4 agent gives me 36 rp's per day, witch I can double if I do missions.

Now ME datacores sell at 500 rp's each, that's 108 days of accumulating rp's, with the best of luck I can try invent in every 60 to 100 days. So in one year I can try invent a single bpc (cos no way you can try it with diferent bps) a total of 3, yes 3 times. AND IT MIGHT NOT WORK, COS IT'S A CHANCE BASED THING

IS THIS A JOKE? For 2 years that I'm hoping CCP will fix r&d, I wasn't expecting much with tis invention deal, but I wasn't thinking it wasn't this bad.




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