EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Murixo]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#886 ]]> Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:47:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9518529 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Zylawy]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#885
but T3 POS's would be the best way to solve this issue, since there it could be considered new content! and they will not have to rewrite anything.
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:38:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9515598 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mulco]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#884 Originally by: Syberbolt8
Originally by: Esiel
Originally by: Dryson Bennington
Although not a POS owner, I have seen many POS' and I can say they do look a bit bland and not very station like. I would suppose this would be a good idea for a single person game where station building had been into the game structure and the graphics. But for the purpose of lag I would have to say no. Lag is bad enough already. Until the problem of corps contacting CCP just to free up bandwidth for a 200 ship fleet battle it woulnd't be worth it.


What in heaven and hells name are you talking about. What does an upgrade in graphics and a repositioning of different parts have to do with lag. I want my station to be 1 piece that means moving the parts closer together I can't see how that would cause any lag whatsoever.


I agree, where does lag come in on this? there is no extra lag caused by this, as a matter of fact, it would be the same amount of lag pos's currently make if not less depending on how CCP does it.


I would say that it actually reduces the lag due to that the database can handle it as one object with many propertys instead of multiple objects with the same amount of properties.
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:58:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9514975 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#883 Originally by: Esiel
Originally by: Dryson Bennington
Although not a POS owner, I have seen many POS' and I can say they do look a bit bland and not very station like. I would suppose this would be a good idea for a single person game where station building had been into the game structure and the graphics. But for the purpose of lag I would have to say no. Lag is bad enough already. Until the problem of corps contacting CCP just to free up bandwidth for a 200 ship fleet battle it woulnd't be worth it.


What in heaven and hells name are you talking about. What does an upgrade in graphics and a repositioning of different parts have to do with lag. I want my station to be 1 piece that means moving the parts closer together I can't see how that would cause any lag whatsoever.


I agree, where does lag come in on this? there is no extra lag caused by this, as a matter of fact, it would be the same amount of lag pos's currently make if not less depending on how CCP does it.
Support the DEAD HORSE POS's]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:13:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9514653 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Esiel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#882 Originally by: Dryson Bennington
Although not a POS owner, I have seen many POS' and I can say they do look a bit bland and not very station like. I would suppose this would be a good idea for a single person game where station building had been into the game structure and the graphics. But for the purpose of lag I would have to say no. Lag is bad enough already. Until the problem of corps contacting CCP just to free up bandwidth for a 200 ship fleet battle it woulnd't be worth it.


What in heaven and hells name are you talking about. What does an upgrade in graphics and a repositioning of different parts have to do with lag. I want my station to be 1 piece that means moving the parts closer together I can't see how that would cause any lag whatsoever.

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]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9514049 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Michael Goldman]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#881 ]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9512522 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Elle D]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#880 ]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 07:49:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9512475 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Ignition SemperFi]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#879 ----
People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
Quote:

They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 05:30:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9512078 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dryson Bennington]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#878 ]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 05:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9512013 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Karrade Krise]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#877
Keep it undead!


Voluntold, New Webcomic

]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:23:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9510929 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by CommanderData211]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#876 ]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:29:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9509967 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Neo Zion]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#875 ]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9504112 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Darth Shenron]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#874 c'mon ccp time to tidy up the pos set up

you know it makes sense

]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:11:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9504056 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Franga]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#873 ----------
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:05:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9500310 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Sethose Olderon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#872 Corporate & Alliance Owned Stargates
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 02:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9498897 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by xVx dreadnaught]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=30#871 ]]> Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:46:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9498896 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by CommanderData211]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#870 ]]> Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9497325 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by What Trigger]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#869
I dont even own a POS but think this would be a great idea, as previously stated this should help reduce lag when warping to a POS

PS, free bump
]]> Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9493187 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by k'nah Manaan]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#868
]]> Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9491237 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by xVx dreadnaught]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#867
When I thought of POS's at first I thought they would be like the 0.0 takeable station. I was shocked to see them and there restrictions. Altho I do like some of the advances they made to them.

I think that once the shields are down. The modules could be targeted and shot offline. (like the Weapons system, fittings, clone bay, refine, repairs etc)Then once it comes out of seige the option to either storm the station and take it or finish it off! If the station is taken you must repair (or lose) any of the damaged modules.
]]> Thu, 1 Jan 2009 04:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9487360 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by ZephyrLexx]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#866

*wow*

Please do this CCP
]]> Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9487200 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Razar51]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#865
]]> Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9486410 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by CommanderData211]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#864 ]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 23:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9486331 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#863 Originally by: Malen Nenokal
I can see the technical issues involved in implementing this. What happens to the current POS'? Do they reconfigure to fit this design automatically once it's patched in? Or would everyone who owns a POS be required to set it up on patch day?

If that hurdle can be overcome, then this idea would be possible.

Please CCP? Do this, it will make EVE just that much sexier. Cool


This issue was solved, the majority of us like the idea of making these tier 2 pos's or just stop seeding the old ones and use these as new ones. no reason to remove them at all..
Support the DEAD HORSE POS's]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 15:50:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9483918 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Malen Nenokal]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#862
If that hurdle can be overcome, then this idea would be possible.

Please CCP? Do this, it will make EVE just that much sexier. Cool


Eden Federal Recon
]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 15:01:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9483661 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Shane Moorey]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#861 Edited by: Shane Moorey on 31/12/2008 12:18:32
This would be an awesome Christmas present next year!!!! (or 2010)
]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 12:18:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9482816 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Elle D]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#860 /ccp
]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 04:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9480897 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Lythane]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#859 Wed, 31 Dec 2009 02:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9480525 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#858 Originally by: Jinx Barker
Edited by: Jinx Barker on 25/12/2008 17:26:07
Merry Christmas guys! This thread has seem a couple of them***, imagine that!

Let see if CCP will actually listen to its players, then perhaps this thread can die by the next Christmas. It deserves a good rest from its toils, but, alas, it is "too much work" for CCP, so I guess we have to kick this horse a few thousand more times before anyone listens.

***Correction:
This is a 3d Christmas for this thread! YAY.







Wow, can't believe I missed this while on holiday, ah well, happy Christmas, and may CCP make sure this is the last one this thread has to live through.

Oh back to the top BTW, shame this isn't sticky.

Be sure to vote for this in the Assembly hull if you want it, check my sig for the link.
Support the DEAD HORSE POS's]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2009 00:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9479883 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cailais]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#857
C.




Originally by: Capa
So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
]]> Mon, 29 Dec 2009 00:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9466216 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Seth Ruin]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#856
... k? MAKE IT SO! Mad
]]> Sun, 28 Dec 2009 06:04:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9460922 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Reccon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#855
/signed
]]> Sun, 28 Dec 2009 05:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9460906 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Razar51]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#854 ]]> Sat, 27 Dec 2009 22:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9459461 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Kharnakh]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#853
]]> Sat, 27 Dec 2009 22:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9459460 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by sg3s]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#852 Edited by: sg3s on 26/12/2008 14:45:10
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Edited by: Jinx Barker on 25/12/2008 17:26:07
Merry Christmas guys! This thread has seem a couple of them***, imagine that!

Let see if CCP will actually listen to its players, then perhaps this thread can die by the next Christmas. It deserves a good rest from its toils, but, alas, it is "too much work" for CCP, so I guess we have to kick this horse a few thousand more times before anyone listens.

***Correction:
This is a 3d Christmas for this thread! YAY.


Cake will be baked with it's next birthday.

I just need a good short way to write down "Happy 3rd birthday "POSs: Flogging the dead horse" eve-online thread. \o/"

edit: or maybe it'll just be a big cake.
]]> Fri, 26 Dec 2009 14:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9452321 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Jinx Barker]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#851 Edited by: Jinx Barker on 25/12/2008 17:26:07
Merry Christmas guys! This thread has seem a couple of them***, imagine that!

Let see if CCP will actually listen to its players, then perhaps this thread can die by the next Christmas. It deserves a good rest from its toils, but, alas, it is "too much work" for CCP, so I guess we have to kick this horse a few thousand more times before anyone listens.

***Correction:
This is a 3d Christmas for this thread! YAY.







::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
]]> Thu, 25 Dec 2009 17:25:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9447875 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Khanak Hryad]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#850 Originally by: sg3s
/me lurks

*cough*

/me leaves
I see what you did there, you clever lurker you...

I'm on to you...

/me keeps an eye on sg3s


/* This be a sig */
Free bottle of rum to the first 3 who mod this sig!

]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2009 19:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9443523 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Lt Shard]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#849 ]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2009 05:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9439784 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by sg3s]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#848
*cough*

/me leaves
]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2009 02:54:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9439279 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by ninjaholic]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#847
Man, greatest POS idea ever Very Happy




SUPPORT EVE-O's OWN IN-GAME FIGHT RECORD TOOL !!]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2009 12:28:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9434841 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dr Prometheus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#846 - Dude where is my Charon? -]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2009 11:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9434634 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#845 Support the DEAD HORSE POS's]]> Tue, 23 Dec 2009 03:50:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9432886 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Jinx Barker]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#844
CCP said this is "too much work" - and last CSM just walked away quietly. So, tell your CSM not to take no for an answer, and divert some work at CCP toward this.

::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
]]> Mon, 22 Dec 2009 06:23:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9427139 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dertranger]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#843 ]]> Sun, 21 Dec 2009 12:34:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9422373 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Manos Soban]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#842 ]]> Sun, 21 Dec 2009 08:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9421523 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dreyrden]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=29#841
/signed
]]> Sat, 20 Dec 2009 22:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9421522 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dr Karsun]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#840
And with customisation to make it look different for other races it would really make a big differance. I love it!

/signed!
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My Deviantart profile]]> Sat, 20 Dec 2009 11:38:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9416284 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mafaka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#839 ]]> Sat, 20 Dec 2009 07:30:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9415413 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Anarich]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#838
]]> Fri, 19 Dec 2009 13:01:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9409818 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cheopis]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#837
Re-sticky until implemented, please.
]]> Fri, 19 Dec 2009 13:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9409817 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dr Prometheus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#836 - Dude where is my Charon? -]]> Fri, 19 Dec 2009 10:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9408965 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Doc Iridium]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#835
Please re-sticky.
]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2009 07:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9401406 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Amarria Drezine]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#834 ]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2009 01:57:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9400328 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cheopis]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#833 Originally by: Evelgrivion
Originally by: Cheopis
Whoops, this hasn't been re-stickied yet.



I'm not sure why there are so many requests for re-stickying, since this thread hasn't ever actually been stickied. Confused

I'm glad you guys still like the idea though. Cool


This thread was indeed stickied, and for quite a long time

Speaking of which. Bump. This thread needs to be stickied again.
]]> Wed, 17 Dec 2009 12:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9395518 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Richter Skystalker]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#832 ]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 18:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9390205 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Xiese]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#831 Originally by: Xiese
never surrender, never retreat.

This idea is too good to let it fall to far down the feature list.

PS is it me or have some of the sticky threads come loose and are now on page 3 or 4


My fault actually, I wasn't refering to this topic I was refering to "common threads", and some other stickys that came loose. People assumed I meant this thread. That being said this should have been stickied a long time ago.
]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 17:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9390204 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Evelgrivion]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#830 Originally by: Cheopis
Whoops, this hasn't been re-stickied yet.



I'm not sure why there are so many requests for re-stickying, since this thread hasn't ever actually been stickied. Confused

I'm glad you guys still like the idea though. Cool
]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 11:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9388012 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cheopis]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#829

]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 10:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9387749 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mos7Wan7ed]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#828
TBH i would love to see POS work this way and maybe have a mini ambulation system to it, even if its only a hand full of rooms.
]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 02:51:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9386244 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Billy Merc]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#827
i like this new pos idea...maybe some sort of t2 / next generation pos...used purely for foward deployment of operations.

dont like the anchor it at gate thing....but i think it should the follwing things should be noted:

.: Thes pops should not be able to claim sov
.: These pos's should be anchorable ANYWHERE is system..but not near gates.
.: These pos's should be detectable by probe and ship scanner
.: U should be able to get an exact location on these pos's with probes
.: Limits to how many can be deployed in a single system
.: Limited weaponry (maybe a fighter bay...that pos gunners can drop fighters/ drones and control them...+ small stationary guns)
.: Area of effect cyno jamming ability would be a nice feature (cant drop cyno within 1 au of it ?????...maybe)
.: Should NOT be able to mine moons

it needs to be balanced...but as a foward deployment platform...this idea is sexy as hell


]]> Tue, 16 Dec 2009 00:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9385814 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Esiel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#826 Originally by: mythpilot
I like "I" but can we seriosly have a Jumpclone vat bay at a POSQuestion


No we can't. That was just one of the many ideas the OP had to improve POS's

While the OP had many ideas, many of which are good. I think the idea we love the most about the dead horse is MODULATION. I would probably support some of the other ideas but untill we can at least have a real space station rather than bunch of floating pieces of a station the extras can wait imho.

(Dead horse love, get some now)
.

]]> Mon, 15 Dec 2009 18:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9383745 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by mythpilot]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#825
]]> Sun, 14 Dec 2009 15:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9375965 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cheopis]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#824
caught it before it fell off the front page where it belongs.

re-sticky please.
]]> Sun, 14 Dec 2009 08:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9374364 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Khanak Hryad]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#823

/* This be a sig */
Free bottle of rum to the first 3 who mod this sig!

]]> Sun, 14 Dec 2009 00:13:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9372679 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Quacka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#822 Sat, 13 Dec 2009 22:51:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9372314 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Sig Sour]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#821 ]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2009 21:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9371845 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Jeiden Rougal]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#820
I observe this thread now for as long as i actively play and it drive me nearly to tears it hasnt been implented...
Poses are now the only thing that looks odd in Eve in my Eyes now and sincerly i think its a Thing that would change the game for the better if it would been revised wisely.

The current Pos system is in nearly all terms something that is not enjoyabe and stands out compared to other aspects of the Game.

If CCP would implement this they could use this opportunity to change the whole system for the better.

The following is just my idea how it could turn out but peaople can dream:

1: Implement the Pos design that started this thread
2: Revamp the Sov system in a way that streamlines the warfare and drives it away from the timeconsuming and boring shootdonws of Poses built up for the only Purpose of stalling. It should only depend on taking out "tactical" Poses and the ones that dont fall in tihis category (like the ones set up for moonminig etc) would fall to the hands of the one with Sov if it would change. Problem is how define a "tactical" Pos and how to stopp (or make it unreasonable) People from making all poses in a system to this and making it as now. Sadly ive not come up with a answer to this myself but there are smarter people out there as myself so we could get an idea soon

If it changes to this im positive Poses will be what they should be, a Basis from where Corps can operate of and not smething you spam just for the sake of slowing the enemy down without actuall other meaning

...hm ive letme get carried away a bit, but i hope i could express my thoughs clearly



Tecam Hund - 2006.09.22 10:55:00
About Ransom:
"It might not be profitable at once, but in the long run killing everything that moves is like skinning sheep instead of just cutting the wool."]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2009 20:50:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9371738 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#819 Originally by: Dr Prometheus
Dont see why it cant be implemented; turrets, and other stuff currently out of the bubble should stay there, rest of the Pos should be combined as suggested in first post. Cant be that difficult.


I was thinking no shields, docking for safety, only allows what you can fit in the SMA's to dock, when docked you just center on the pos as you view. You have to be docked to use the CHA, Refitting, Silos, Recators, pos gunning, labs, and manufacture slots, etc.

These should be introduced as tier 2 pos's and shouldn't replace the current ones, allow the current ones to be used for sov, remove the production mods and arrays.

So it would look like this.

Tier 1:
Ugly stick for pos wars, bubbles like now to fleet support and safety, no production mods.

Tier 2:
Pretty module pos, like a mini station with limited access to docking space, only corp hanger no personal storage, Used for mainly production and research, t2 materials, etc.

Just how I would like to see it.
Join Gen Tec]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2009 19:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9371164 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dr Prometheus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#818 - Dude where is my Charon? -]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2009 14:52:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9369869 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#817 Originally by: Ticondrius
Necroed or not, this is still a fine idea. Please do not lock simply due to age.

/signed



This wasn't necroed, It has been active this whole time :), just gos to show what people who deal with pos's wants.


Join Gen Tec]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2009 13:22:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9369410 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Doc Iridium]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#816
Re-sticky, please.
Well, I've said my piece - wait, is that Veldspar over there? Woot!]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2009 11:37:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9362079 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by DEATHsyphon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#815 --------------------
I'm not not going to pod you!]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2009 06:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9360650 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Xindi Kraid]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#814
additionally see sig
-Xindi Kraid
CSFI lead engineer and shipwright

Improve POS cargo access]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2009 05:52:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9360620 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Ticondrius]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#813
/signed
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PROPOSAL: Chaos Incarnate's Face
MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2009 05:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9360555 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Vrikshaka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#812

I've noticed it now and then but never bothered to click it during all this time since I usually dont give a **** about pos. Well, shooting at them is ok Razz but owning one....cba tbh. But if they looked like this.....f****ng hell, I'd want one!!

Looks ARE important. If everything in this game was as fugly as it's pos, none of us would be playing it tbh. Throw in some cool new functionality on top of this new design and presto you'd have a new reason for people to resub or even start playing to begin with (I know I would Razz).

I realise it would be a sh*tload of work to make the transfer from the existing pos system to this one but damn CCP, it would be so worth it.

Mmmm....good design is inspirational....how about more/new pos functions, also to revive lowsec, like smaller pos that you'd need to anchor at gas clouds in order to refine the gas, or science stations for doing archaeology or whatever, all sorts of things exploration related with a new and beefed up take on it, and other things - moving away from the stale old system where pos can only be anchored at moons. The modular system suggested by the OP could be taken very far and be used in tons of flexible ways (while looking simply awesome...).

Anyway sorry getting a bit ahead of things here... Start by switching to the new looks for the existing pos, then gradually adapt the functioning too, and then keep moving towards new and beautiful things... Come on CCP you know you want to!! Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy]]> Thu, 11 Dec 2009 12:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9354152 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Cheopis]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=28#811
Re-sticky, please.

This is a great idea, and should not be allowed to vanish.
]]> Thu, 11 Dec 2009 09:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9354151 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Azrael Dinn]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#810 - Azrael -]]> Wed, 10 Dec 2009 11:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9344525 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Seth Ruin]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#809 Originally by: Ashundi silver
they could make this part of the T3 expension. we get modular ships with it so why not modular POS?
Agreed! Smile
]]> Wed, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9344524 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Ashundi silver]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#808 ]]> Wed, 10 Dec 2009 10:45:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9344316 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Caldari 5]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#807
I'm sure that their first impressions of a POS were like mine, "Are you sure that this Junk pile in space is something good????"

Please do something that the MAJORITY of users will be using, T3 ships sounds like something to give to the older players, not something that is actually useful.
]]> Wed, 10 Dec 2009 06:18:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9343377 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Rellik Sadab]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#806 Edited by: Rellik Sadab on 09/12/2008 20:15:09
Wow, I love the idea for POS. You would think that after 2 years of this topic not dying that they would have taken a hint.

Edit: 806 Posts in 853 days
]]> Tue, 9 Dec 2009 20:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9340544 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Zhunya]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#805 =) love this idea
]]> Tue, 9 Dec 2009 07:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9336620 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#804 Originally by: padraig animal
Edited by: padraig animal on 09/12/2008 01:24:09
Great plan ,tho why it isn't on the drawing board jet Confused


For now CCP said no, all we can do is keep the idea alive and hope they change there minds.
Join Gen Tec]]> Tue, 9 Dec 2009 01:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9335573 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by padraig animal]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#803 Edited by: padraig animal on 09/12/2008 01:24:09
Great plan ,tho why it isn't on the drawing board jet Confused
]]> Tue, 9 Dec 2009 01:23:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9335440 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Dr Prometheus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#802 - Dude where is my Charon? -]]> Mon, 8 Dec 2009 15:10:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9331684 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Sciencegeek deathdealer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#801 signed
]]> Sun, 7 Dec 2009 05:29:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9323722 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mulco]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#800
/sits down next to the dead horse and starts telling it about all the amazing **** that is going on out in space. and if the devs will it, that it will one day be able to see it with it's own eyes.


]]> Sun, 7 Dec 2009 04:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9323490 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Doc Iridium]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#799
I didn't see where I've ever responded to this, though I know I've read it, so I'll use this bump-and-sticky request to say what practically every other person here has said:

Even 2 years and 3 months later, this idea is still good.

Implement this or something very much like it, please.
Well, I've said my piece - wait, is that Veldspar over there? Woot!]]> Sat, 6 Dec 2009 08:18:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9318740 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Xiese]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#798
This idea is too good to let it fall to far down the feature list.

PS is it me or have some of the sticky threads come loose and are now on page 3 or 4
]]> Sat, 6 Dec 2009 04:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9318233 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by RedLion]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#797

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]]> Wed, 3 Dec 2009 22:55:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9302386 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Esiel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#796
CCP tell us you will do it, make a modular POS system.... Or the horse will get you...
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]]> Wed, 3 Dec 2009 22:38:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9302259 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Taladool]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#795 Originally by: BiggestT
Originally by: Nikita Alterana
I wonder what exactly has become of the horse after all this flogging..its a disturbing thought.


It wld be like a semi-viscous pulp, any horse left has started to turn black after even the iron in the heamoglobin has been oxidised and the rest tainted with mould. Assuming normal microbial activity, very little organic matter wld be left, the majority of the pulp wld be the dirt underneath with some drying mush that is our ex-dead horse.

Disturbing thought..Illustrated! Twisted Evil


We keep our horse in space, keeps all the microbes away and lets use keep beating it, frozen horse is a lot less messy :)
]]> Tue, 2 Dec 2009 16:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9293093 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by BiggestT]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#794 Originally by: Nikita Alterana
I wonder what exactly has become of the horse after all this flogging..its a disturbing thought.


It wld be like a semi-viscous pulp, any horse left has started to turn black after even the iron in the heamoglobin has been oxidised and the rest tainted with mould. Assuming normal microbial activity, very little organic matter wld be left, the majority of the pulp wld be the dirt underneath with some drying mush that is our ex-dead horse.

Disturbing thought..Illustrated! Twisted Evil
EVE history

t2 precisions]]> Tue, 2 Dec 2009 14:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9292325 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#793
As far as t3 ships go, yes they will be nice, however there are more then a few devs at CCP and I'm sure they will all be working on more then just modularize ships.

Saying that you can want those ship, I know I do. However I want a this pos setup, or something like it as well, as do almost all of the other posters in this thread.

At very least we are looking for a major change to pos's and how they work. Anyone that has ever ran a pos would know change is needed.

This just happens to be the best thought out plan of action for ccp to take on the matter.
Join Gen Tec]]> Tue, 2 Dec 2009 13:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9292116 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Thorson Wiles]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#792 Originally by: Syberbolt8
Aye, I'm pretty bad for run on sentences.

Past that, are you going to do more then keep pointing at me and stating your opinion about what I'm posting, or are you going to post something constructive?

If not then I do not believe this is the place for this kind of constructive feedback. Please try and stay on topic, and worry a little less about what I am posting.


One line of mine caused your response. One line that wasn't even serious.

My other two comments were topical. The first was basically reposting something that I said a while back, shortly after the announcement of what T3 ships were going to be. The second was for a constructive course of action, namely make sure the members of the CSM know that this is what we want.

Both of these were directly related to what you posted, and not how you posted.
]]> Tue, 2 Dec 2009 00:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9289341 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by ShadowDraqon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#791
/signed, for lack of better words.


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Want to see a trick? *snaps fingers*
Notify: "The Final Countdown" is now playing nonstop in your head.
Neat, eh?]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 21:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9288069 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#790 Originally by: Thorson Wiles
Originally by: Syberbolt8
CCP replyed 2x times, first time to say looks cool, and 2nd time was to say that it would be to much work, ...


Yep, and then they decided to undertake a harder concept. Instead of modular fixed assets (POSs) they are implementing modular mobile assets (T3 ships)

Originally by: Syberbolt8
... and CSM said CCP said no they wont do it at all, ...


Time to start requesting the new members of the CSM to bring this up again, and again, and again. (Lip service is great, but sooner or later, you expect a payout)

Originally by: Syberbolt8
... I however believe that if we keep this alive for another few years it might happen, you have to admit this is one of the longest running threads on F&I.


OK, on a not so serious note ... Your paragraph, consisting of up to 5 sentences, only had one period. Smile


Aye, I'm pretty bad for run on sentences.

Past that, are you going to do more then keep pointing at me and stating your opinion about what I'm posting, or are you going to post something constructive?

If not then I do not believe this is the place for this kind of constructive feedback. Please try and stay on topic, and worry a little less about what I am posting.
Join Gen Tec]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 19:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9287423 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Thorson Wiles]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#789 Originally by: Syberbolt8
CCP replyed 2x times, first time to say looks cool, and 2nd time was to say that it would be to much work, ...


Yep, and then they decided to undertake a harder concept. Instead of modular fixed assets (POSs) they are implementing modular mobile assets (T3 ships)

Originally by: Syberbolt8
... and CSM said CCP said no they wont do it at all, ...


Time to start requesting the new members of the CSM to bring this up again, and again, and again. (Lip service is great, but sooner or later, you expect a payout)

Originally by: Syberbolt8
... I however believe that if we keep this alive for another few years it might happen, you have to admit this is one of the longest running threads on F&I.


OK, on a not so serious note ... Your paragraph, consisting of up to 5 sentences, only had one period. Smile
]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 18:44:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9287052 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Miyamoto Uroki]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#788 ]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 14:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9285563 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Valorous Bob]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#787 _______________________________________________

Originally by: Faekurias
Edited by: Faekurias on 12/11/2008 18:25:39
What, you get to write **** now? Sweet!

Edit: I see what you did there]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 03:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9282858 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mihailo Great]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#786 ]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2009 02:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9282470 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Saju Somtaaw]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#785
After over two years, a new horse is due. This has got to be the longest running thread period, much less in F&I. I support this idea or a similar idea should be fast tracked for next winter at the latest.
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I'm also training Minmatar Capitals!
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]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2009 21:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9280750 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#783 Originally by: myfirst
free bump for a very impressive idea, even if its already 2 years old. Such a shame, that CCP doesn't respond even 1 time to it, what could be so difficult with it, or if they have made thoughts about it, whats possible or not. Sadly i've seen that already in other posts with good ideas too. Dont ask for the lot of work for the graphical change. In 2 years there were made other graphical changes, way bigger ones. Shame again.

Still, a 2 year old idea, but a great thought, and awesome transition to virtual paper


CCP replyed 2x times, first time to say looks cool, and 2nd time was to say that it would be to much work, and CSM said CCP said no they wont do it at all, I however believe that if we keep this alive for another few years it might happen, you have to admit this is one of the longest running threads on F&I.
Join Gen Tec]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2009 20:26:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9280506 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by k'nah Manaan]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#782 ]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2009 14:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9272499 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Mafaka]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=27#781 ]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2009 11:46:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9272498 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by myfirst]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#780
Still, a 2 year old idea, but a great thought, and awesome transition to virtual paper
]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2009 11:28:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9271834 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Rosalina Sarinna]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#779
The whole thing about it being low priority: Personally, T3 ships or ambulation don't mean much to me. I'm perfectly happy flying round in my T1 & T2 ships all day; But a new POS system would really cook my noodles. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that either.
]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2009 23:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9262777 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#778 Originally by: ReiXor
Edited by: ReiXor on 20/11/2008 21:32:58
Modular POS

(All in good fun, but half serious too)


Ingredients: ............................. * Percent of daily recommended amount.
Essential Game Components ....... - 100%
Creative Ingenuity ...................... - 100%
Player-required Update ............... - 100%
Awesome Amazingnes ................ - 100%

Directions:
(For DEVs) -
1)Allocate task force to design/program Modular POS.
2)Implement Modular POS separately from junk POS.
3)Phase out junk POS completely over appropriate period of time.
(For Players) -
1)Flog this dang horse.
2)Develop new designs and methods of implementing.
3)Petition CCP on this topic.
4)Repeat until desired outcome achieved.

ATTENTION: This post best listed on the fist page! DEV failure to follow directions *ASAP* can result in irate/lost Players. In case of DEV creative blocks, refer to this and similar posts - do NOT abandon project under pain of hateful spam.

/signed10!!! Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

P.S.: Considering how much obvious demand there is for this project, there really is no reason why CCP couldn't, at the very least, assign a small team to perform preliminary development steps. This would get the ball rolling; making it easier to kick it in to high gear when additional resources are available.

Whether a company provides a product, service, or both; the first rule is to give the customer what they want. We want THIS. If you can't/won't deliver what your customers want, people might just go looking for someone that will.

DISCLAIMER: This post is not meant to cause ill will or threaten anyone. The author is simply pointing out what should be pretty obvious. Then again, common sense is anything but these days. Better safe than sorry, I suppose.


This is great, I have been supporting this thread for quite a while, and hope CCP will change there mind on this issue.
Join Gen Tec]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2009 21:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9261970 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by K'Talas Marta]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#777 ]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2009 14:57:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9259430 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Ethan Cross]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#776
/signed

/danced with

Whatever it takes to get CCP to implement this idea or a version of it.
]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2009 12:18:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9259429 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Elle D]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#775
Really an awesome idea, and the first time I've seen this thread.
]]> Wed, 26 Nov 2009 09:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9250407 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by ReiXor]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#774
Rescued from 3rd page.
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]]> Wed, 26 Nov 2009 07:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9250029 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Khanak Hryad]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#773
I think I will hold off on the last bit until I at least have something to show for my efforts. I'm planning on something like EVE-Fit, except for POS's.

If someone has experience with using the EVE API (apparantly I can get all the struct data from this) and/or DirectX in C#, plz post here with help :D.


/* This be a sig */
Free bottle of rum to the first 3 who mod this sig!

]]> Tue, 25 Nov 2009 20:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9247095 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Quanah Maquinna]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#772 ]]> Mon, 24 Nov 2009 17:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9238355 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Kaylon Vale]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#771
]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2009 16:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9231295 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by David Grogan]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#770 Edited by: David Grogan on 23/11/2008 12:11:14
Edited by: David Grogan on 23/11/2008 12:10:54
totally love this thread starter's pos ideas.........the current pos look crap...this guy's pos look cool and is more practical

also a smaller scale HIGH SEC pos using this guy's template would be great for use as corp noob training camps
]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2009 12:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9230010 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Darth Kuminos]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#769
I have worked and still do work with POSs. I for one love this idea, and think it would one of the most useful content upgrades CCP could do.

If you look at the OP's designs... they are relatively simple and could easily be built for the game. At the same time, why stop at POSs with this design? Why not use it for both POSs and Outposts. Outposts would just be a larger version of the POS model.

If you think about current technology, why wouldn't they be modular? Look at the ISS. Granted, not the best example, but in my mind, that is how POS should be built.

I for one support this idea completely. (Along with the Fuel Rods/Bricks/Pellets).

Please, please, please CCP... Look into this. It would be a great addition to the game (based on the feedback the OP has gotten).
]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2009 01:12:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9227950 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Esiel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#768

Off with your head]]> Sun, 23 Nov 2009 00:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9227789 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Clansworth]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#767 Originally by: Carniflex
I want modular POS so I could dock up in there and get my ambulation experience inside my own POS!


As long as I can choose the decorations in my place... I wanna have my own little dollhouse in space! ;-)

POS Personal Storage]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2009 09:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9215605 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Carniflex]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#766

I want modular POS so I could dock up in there and get my ambulation experience inside my own POS! Oh and while you are at it could you pretty please rework the sov. also - current implementation kinda sucks.]]> Fri, 21 Nov 2009 09:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9215435 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by ReiXor]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#765 Edited by: ReiXor on 20/11/2008 21:32:58
Modular POS

(All in good fun, but half serious too)


Ingredients: ............................. * Percent of daily recommended amount.
Essential Game Components ....... - 100%
Creative Ingenuity ...................... - 100%
Player-required Update ............... - 100%
Awesome Amazingnes ................ - 100%

Directions:
(For DEVs) -
1)Allocate task force to design/program Modular POS.
2)Implement Modular POS separately from junk POS.
3)Phase out junk POS completely over appropriate period of time.
(For Players) -
1)Flog this dang horse.
2)Develop new designs and methods of implementing.
3)Petition CCP on this topic.
4)Repeat until desired outcome achieved.

ATTENTION: This post best listed on the fist page! DEV failure to follow directions *ASAP* can result in irate/lost Players. In case of DEV creative blocks, refer to this and similar posts - do NOT abandon project under pain of hateful spam.

/signed10!!! Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

P.S.: Considering how much obvious demand there is for this project, there really is no reason why CCP couldn't, at the very least, assign a small team to perform preliminary development steps. This would get the ball rolling; making it easier to kick it in to high gear when additional resources are available.

Whether a company provides a product, service, or both; the first rule is to give the customer what they want. We want THIS. If you can't/won't deliver what your customers want, people might just go looking for someone that will.

DISCLAIMER: This post is not meant to cause ill will or threaten anyone. The author is simply pointing out what should be pretty obvious. Then again, common sense is anything but these days. Better safe than sorry, I suppose.]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2009 21:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9212834 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Aken Ator]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#764

]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2009 09:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9208917 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Sophie Malaster]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#763 ]]> Wed, 19 Nov 2009 23:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9206972 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by RiseofFilth]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#762 ]]> Wed, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9200678 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Ancy Denaries]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#761 Mon, 17 Nov 2009 21:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9191907 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by frsd]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#760 What about if you do this i will open a 2nd account Wink]]> Sun, 16 Nov 2009 20:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9184506 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Thorson Wiles]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#759
Many people must like the idea.]]> Sun, 16 Nov 2009 17:55:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9183591 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Grek Forto]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#758
]]> Sat, 15 Nov 2009 12:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9175022 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by What Trigger]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#757 ]]> Sat, 15 Nov 2009 10:53:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9174363 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#756 Originally by: Lenasha
Because this deserves to be done...


I agree, this has been a long time and coming, its something the devs need to reconsider.]]> Sat, 15 Nov 2009 01:47:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9172640 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Lenasha]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#755 Fri, 14 Nov 2009 22:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9171257 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Khanak Hryad]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#754 Originally by: Thorson Wiles
With T3 ships going modular, modular POSes would be a great fit.
That would be quite awesome.


/* This be a sig */
Free bottle of rum to the first 3 who mod this sig!

]]> Sun, 9 Nov 2009 23:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9131733 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Thorson Wiles]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#753 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Umm, yeah. Don't have any time to talk now. Maybe later.

Ahh, you wouldn't happen to have any duct-tape, bailing wire or bubble-gun would ya? Don't a]]> Sun, 9 Nov 2009 17:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9129776 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#752 Join Gen Tec]]> Sun, 9 Nov 2009 00:25:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9125727 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Esiel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=26#751 Originally by: Esiel
Posted - 07/10/2008 02:50:00
I haven't posted here in a long time and partly it is because I have almost given up on CCP ever doing anything about this. I work with POS's every day and this mess is so bad that there is no way that I believe that something like this could ever work. Suspension of belief, and for this game that is bad because the whole point is to make it feel like this could really happen.

I have come to the conclusion that there are only 3 reasons why this hasn't been done.

  1. CCP doesn't think it is important and have put it on the back shelf - permanantly


  2. CCP has decided to do this with another project that is constantly delayed and set back (perhaps the new SOV system)


  3. CCP is afraid to implement this because they are not sure how to deal with all the POS's that are out there allready


***************************************************


Here is how to resolve every one of those problems

  1. I really hope this isn't true because if it is, CCP doesn't give a crap about its players it just wants to do what it likes.


  2. Stop waiting for something else just implment the new grafics with the next update, people like me are getting very frustrated waiting 2 years for this to happen


  3. Easiest way in the world to do this - simply make the change and leave all POS's just the way they are. Just require any POS put up in the future to do it modular (basically require that when you anchor require the green box to be next to another) No one is forced to do it so no one will scream when it is done


I am starting to think that the problem is #1 and there is no solution to that. The reason - devs won't sticky this, they won't talk about it, they simply ignore it and pretend it isn't there. It is very frustrating.


Well its official the reason CCP hasn't done anything about POS's -- #1

I am greatfull that at least we have a tiny bit of clarification about what is going on about this.

CCP Zulupark stated in a Q & A in the General section
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
POS module setup:
We want to rework how POS modules work and look but it's not high on our priority list at this point.

(can be found here http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=905941&page=1#7)

Originally by: CCP Atropos
I respectfully disagree. It is indeed a good idea, but there are other problems that would need to be resolved first, for example, how would such a transition take place, from the old system to the new, how do we go about educating players on the new methods, etc. Now I don't know if these issues have been mentioned in this thread, since I only just swooped in, this far into the thread.

It would indeed be cool to integrate this into EVE, and I seem to recall that the CSM raised the issue in their first sit down with CCP, so it has been raised to the attention of the Dev team. The way I see it, sure it's cool, and it would be awesome, but as has already been stated, the development undertaking for this would be phenomenal.


As for your worries people have addressed many of these ideas in the tread. I know it would take a while to go through it all but I am sure there are several ways to deal with the issues that will keep it from becoming the monster you imagine it.

I suppose thou this is all we will hear about this for a year or 2 seeing as CCP doesn't want to work with it for now. (No I am not going to quit, but I am disapointed)


Off with your head]]> Wed, 5 Nov 2009 21:38:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9125726 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#750 Originally by: Amarkon
Edited by: Amarkon on 04/11/2008 00:05:42
Nice job Evelgrivion.

Worse part of this tread was Maya Rkell, why so negative?

You can have an opposing view without being such a ***

Laughing


You do know this post is 2 years old.
Im Looking for a new Corp]]> Tue, 4 Nov 2009 23:58:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9099119 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Amarkon]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#749 Edited by: Amarkon on 04/11/2008 00:05:42
Nice job Evelgrivion.

Worse part of this tread was Maya Rkell, why so negative?

You can have an opposing view without being such a ***

Laughing
]]> Tue, 4 Nov 2009 00:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9091788 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Opiboble Inte]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#748 Originally by: CCP Atropos

I respectfully disagree. It is indeed a good idea, but there are other problems that would need to be resolved first, for example, how would such a transition take place, from the old system to the new, how do we go about educating players on the new methods, etc. Now I don't know if these issues have been mentioned in this thread, since I only just swooped in, this far into the thread.

It would indeed be cool to integrate this into EVE, and I seem to recall that the CSM raised the issue in their first sit down with CCP, so it has been raised to the attention of the Dev team. The way I see it, sure it's cool, and it would be awesome, but as has already been stated, the development undertaking for this would be phenomenal.


Well just add them as new POS's! Keep the old ones around as ALLIANCE POS's for jump bridge use, cyno jammers etc. And have the new ones for small corps looking to do manufacturing and any sort of production with no ability to run cyno jammers and the like.

Now about the teaching of people: I have not once seen any walk though of how to use the current POS system or how they function in game. And I have figured them out just fine on my own. I am sure we would all get along fine figuring out a new POS system.

And about the development of this: If my memory serves me right Evelgrivion has already offered his services for free to produce models and skins for all needed structures, and by the looks of it he will do a fine job!!!

Now all CCP has to do is code it in, add the models, and away we go!!! We will figure out how to use them along the way.


Now please use your brains CCP notice we want this more then anything else and get it done please!!!!!
-Opi
bye all]]> Mon, 3 Nov 2009 15:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9088528 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by tinies]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#747
/signed
]]> Mon, 3 Nov 2009 00:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9085161 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Khanak Hryad]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#746 Originally by: CCP Atropos

I respectfully disagree. It is indeed a good idea, but there are other problems that would need to be resolved first, for example, how would such a transition take place, from the old system to the new, how do we go about educating players on the new methods, etc. Now I don't know if these issues have been mentioned in this thread, since I only just swooped in, this far into the thread.

It would indeed be cool to integrate this into EVE, and I seem to recall that the CSM raised the issue in their first sit down with CCP, so it has been raised to the attention of the Dev team. The way I see it, sure it's cool, and it would be awesome, but as has already been stated, the development undertaking for this would be phenomenal.
Hooray, m0ar devs!! To address the concerns you've mentioned. So far as I know, you are correct in that no real solution to these issues have been raised in the thread, insofar as I have read.

Transition: Yeah, it'll be big, probably nasty, and there will most likely be mistakes and bugs or other issues during the process of converting old POS's to a new setup. And yes, I'm all for converting the old to the new Very Happy as it would be quite odd to have ye' ole style lying around amongst fresh new style. But the best way I can see it being done is to take each POS individually and take account of every structure/weapon platform that is considered a part of it. From there, convert the backend code for current POS's to be setup for the new models/functionality. Once that ready, take the servers down and take out the old code, throw in the new code, and tada!

Now I know its not that easy, being a learning game programmer myself, but it can be done. As mentioned before, it will take time and effort, but I believe (and I think I'm not alone in this) that it will be well worth it.

Educating players on newness: It seems the easiest thing for this is to add a new section to the tutorial detailing how to start out making a POS and maintaining it. Also, maybe add some sort of new-fangled POS designer, similar to the ship fitting window, that allows you to at least design a POS, if not create it straight from there. It should allow you to design the layout of it (ie, I want 3 wep plat's around my main core, and 2 each near my labs) and an accurate preview (rotatable, zoomable :D) will show in a part of the window.

Since it's a window (derived from the base window structures) it has built-in functionality for little help-popups, and would obviously have the link to the tutorial page on it. I'll be working on an app to at least show how I think the window could look, maybe ... possibly ... create some sort of demo. Although I don't have the accurate models and textures and such, I can at least make basic shapes :P


To CCP Atropos, and indeed any devs who stumble upon this thread, if you are seriously interested in putting this idea into creation, the best thing to do would be to talk to us players about it, cuz even if the idea doesn't go through, us players at least get the closure we need. This thread sitting around for 2+ years isn't very enjoyable for those who really want this in, so any sort of definitive answer, even if its negative, is better than waiting. I've always liked CCP for their communication with their players, and there's no reason for it not to apply here.

Another idea is to have a vote about this, get some more popularity and possibly ideas on implementing this, in addition to getting a bigger idea on how those of us who haven't seen this thread think about it.


sig lacking color makes me sad :(
turn the frown upside down and add some color!]]> Mon, 3 Nov 2009 00:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9085160 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by Syberbolt8]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#745 Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Jinx Barker

Those of you who are going to fanfest, please bring this issue up with the current Developer team, it seem that this particular thing has been a big, ugly, white, elephant in the room that everyone at CCP has been working hard to ignore.

They would respond to the stupidest thing on this forums, and they have only said something to us about the issue in the original thread on page 13... and well over a year ago!


I respectfully disagree. It is indeed a good idea, but there are other problems that would need to be resolved first, for example, how would such a transition take place, from the old system to the new, how do we go about educating players on the new methods, etc. Now I don't know if these issues have been mentioned in this thread, since I only just swooped in, this far into the thread.

It would indeed be cool to integrate this into EVE, and I seem to recall that the CSM raised the issue in their first sit down with CCP, so it has been raised to the attention of the Dev team. The way I see it, sure it's cool, and it would be awesome, but as has already been stated, the development undertaking for this would be phenomenal.


This being a fairly large post, most probs have been covered.

Pos guns outside the shields

What to do with the old ones

Should it be T2?

those are just the answers I gave, but if you look at this thread there are a lot of very good ideas, and a few not so good ones. I understand this would be a major undertaking but anyone who has ever ran a pos/ lived out of one knows where I am coming from when I say, I would much rather this then WIS, and FW.

Check this for the last dev replys we got

Yes this Idea involves alot of work, but at least a bunch of us think it would be worth wild, and if the new gate based sov system ever gos into effect then thats all the more reason to change these, in both function and in appearance.

Respectively
Syberbolt8

Im Looking for a new Home]]> Sun, 2 Nov 2009 22:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9084815 <![CDATA[POSs: Flogging the Dead Horse - by CCP Atropos]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410&page=25#744